Brexit Impact on English football

[ozzie owl]

Looks like FA are trying broker a deal with the government in regards to overseas players and Brexit. IMO should football not be treated any different to other industries in regards to foreign workers.

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/fa-repo ... A-65MTSjug

[predrag]

Reducing the number of foreign players allowed per club from 17 to 12 or 13 is a good move,gives local guys a go,plus a lot of imports are on the books but are given out to other clubs ,some never even playing for the club they signed for.

[MegaBonus]

Fat Sam might even get another gig

[God is an Englishman]

Looks like FA are trying broker a deal with the government in regards to overseas players and Brexit. IMO should football not be treated any different to other industries in regards to foreign workers.

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/fa-repo ... A-65MTSjug

No, it should not be any different.

[ozzie owl]

No surprise here as EPL sides react to the proposal to reduce number of overseas players.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... rexit.html

[ozzie owl]

EPL clubs continue the fight.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... ayers.html

[Nice One Cyril]

EPL clubs continue the fight.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... ayers.html

As they should, they're private enterprises, not feeder clubs for the national team.

If the FA really wanted to do something useful, they should cap the number of players of age 16 and over that a club can have to a predetermined limit. That would stop the richer clubs treating players like commodities to be traded, sweeping up all the young talent to stop competitors having them and then not playing them or loaning them abroad. Clubs like BigClub FC (in Fulham but not Fulham FC) would have about 60-70 on their books whereas they really only need perhaps 40. The other 20 or more could be getting valuable playing experience at other teams, rather than disappearing until BigClub FC decide they're not good enough in three or four years time, by which time the player is around 20 and has hardly played.

[God is an Englishman]

EPL clubs continue the fight.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... ayers.html

As they should, they're private enterprises, not feeder clubs for the national team.

If the FA really wanted to do something useful, they should cap the number of players of age 16 and over that a club can have to a predetermined limit. That would stop the richer clubs treating players like commodities to be traded, sweeping up all the young talent to stop competitors having them and then not playing them or loaning them abroad. Clubs like BigClub FC (in Fulham but not Fulham FC) would have about 60-70 on their books whereas they really only need perhaps 40. The other 20 or more could be getting valuable playing experience at other teams, rather than disappearing until BigClub FC decide they're not good enough in three or four years time, by which time the player is around 20 and has hardly played.

They should be subject to the same immigration and employment laws as any other business.

Personally, I’d like maximum of 2 non English players in any side but that would go against employment law and no hope of getting up under British Law.

[Nice One Cyril]

They should be subject to the same immigration and employment laws as any other business.

I think they are already, but whilst we're still a member of the EU, they are allowed as many European players as they want under the freedom of movement laws.

[ozzie owl]

They should be subject to the same immigration and employment laws as any other business.

I think they are already, but whilst we're still a member of the EU, they are allowed as many European players as they want under the freedom of movement laws.

I agree but post Brexit they should not be given any concessions just because they are football clubs.

[God is an Englishman]

They should be subject to the same immigration and employment laws as any other business.

I think they are already, but whilst we're still a member of the EU, they are allowed as many European players as they want under the freedom of movement laws.

And they should be subject to the same rules after Brexit as well.

[THE ORAKLE]

I honestly don't think Brexit will get up unfortunately. all this has proved that the will of ordinary people mean nothing and never has.

[ozzie owl]

Southgate worried about the continual slide in starting time for English players in the EPL , this season it dropped to 30% and as low as 19% for the top six. With the cashed up EPL clubs getting richer unless Brexit happens it will only get worse.

[Nice One Cyril]

Southgate worried about the continual slide in starting time for English players in the EPL , this season it dropped to 30% and as low as 19% for the top six. With the cashed up EPL clubs getting richer unless Brexit happens it will only get worse.

Statistics can be wildly inaccurate though. Kane, Alli, Winks, Dier, Trippier, Rose, who are more or less first choices for Spurs, have all been injured for decent chunks of the season and I'm sure other clubs in the top six are the same, even though they don't have quite the same representation.

[ozzie owl]

Southgate worried about the continual slide in starting time for English players in the EPL , this season it dropped to 30% and as low as 19% for the top six. With the cashed up EPL clubs getting richer unless Brexit happens it will only get worse.

Statistics can be wildly inaccurate though. Kane, Alli, Winks, Dier, Trippier, Rose, who are more or less first choices for Spurs, have all been injured for decent chunks of the season and I'm sure other clubs in the top six are the same, even though they don't have quite the same representation.

Spurs are the best of the top six , however the trend is downward. I think what you will see is more young English repeat what Sancho did and head to Europe to get game time.

[Old Master]

The way Teresa May is being blocked at every stage of Brexit negotiations, it is unlikely that GB will ever actually leave the EU, as the mood of the people seems to be against it.

The next election will be entirely about this one issue, leaving or not.

[God is an Englishman]

The way Teresa May is being blocked at every stage of Brexit negotiations, it is unlikely that GB will ever actually leave the EU, as the mood of the people seems to be against it.

The next election will be entirely about this one issue, leaving or not.

Mood of the people are against it? Where are you getting that from?

Brexit party are leading the polls. Today's elections I think will show the true mood of the country.

Of course May is being blocked, she's a remainer trying to deliver a remain proposal.

[Rookie]

how hard is it i ask??

did the country not vote and decide to leave the EU??

get on with it then or STFU already

[THE ORAKLE]

how hard is it i ask??

did the country not vote and decide to leave the EU??

get on with it then or STFU already

all this just proves that the peasants never get what they want. the elete didnt want it and it wont bloody happen. the yankee elete didnt want trump either. same diff,sort of.

[ozzie owl]

They should be subject to the same immigration and employment laws as any other business.

I think they are already, but whilst we're still a member of the EU, they are allowed as many European players as they want under the freedom of movement laws.

So once Brexit happens footballers should be treated the same as say tradie on a building site. Why should ' special deals be done for football?

[ajalex]

I think Brexit will not affect British Football.
fightcade roms

[Davinci Code]

europe needs england so they will role over and give the biggest league what ever it wants

[God is an Englishman]

europe needs england so they will role over and give the biggest league what ever it wants

It will have nothing to do with the EU.

[ozzie owl]

europe needs england so they will role over and give the biggest league what ever it wants

Well with Brexit now looking as a reality be interesting to see what restrictions for overseas are placed on English clubs .

[ozzie owl]

First shots fired regarding English football post Brexit.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... -plan.html

[God is an Englishman]

46 hours to go

[N5 1BH]

Yeah the FAs Brexit deal is done at last

https://www.thefa.com/news/2020/dec/01/ ... hed-011220

GBE points system introduced for EU players now plus no U18s & only 3 U21s. Some compromising by both sides it seems

[Old Master]

This is how it will affect clubs in League 2:

How Brexit will impact Blackpool, Fleetwood Town and Hull City as new transfer rules outlined

The United Kingdom is set to leave the European Union next year, with the country in a transition period until December 31.
By James Copley Wednesday, 2nd December 2020, 11:47 am

Yesterday, Premier League and EFL clubs learned the new rules regarding transfers post-Brexit.

Here, we take you through the new rules and what they will mean.

What does Brexit mean for Blackpool and Fleetwood’s transfer policy?

Following the confirmation for the post-Brexit rules on Tuesday evening, it was revealed that clubs in England will no longer be able to sign foreign youngsters under the age of 18.

Premier League and EFL clubs will also be restricted to just three overseas signings under the age of 21 from January onwards, and only six foreign players per season.

Is this good or bad for Blackpool, Fleetwood and football in England?
There are advantages and disadvantages to the changes depending on how you look at it.

The new rules put Premier League clubs at a distinct disadvantage to clubs in Spain, Germany and France who will still be able to sign youngsters under the age of 21 at will.

That means teams like Dortmund, Barcelona and Bayern Munich can snap up Europe’s brightest young stars and steal a march on their Premier League rivals in European competitions.

However, the rule may yet strengthen the quality of the domestic game in the UK, with homegrown players now afforded greater opportunities to shine with less competition from imported players.

That could strengthen the national teams of England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland in the long-term.

Could this have a knock-on effect on the EFL?
Absolutely!

One daunting consequence of the changes will be the raiding of Championship, League One and League Two academy systems, with big clubs no longer able to shop abroad.

That news is potentially devastating news for those clubs, given the compensation dished out for the poaching of young players isn’t always substantial.

What about foreign players over the age of 21?
This is where it gets slightly complicated.

The Premier League, EFL and the Football Association have agreed on a framework with the Home Office for EU players to move to English football on a points basis decided by a Governing Body Endorsement panel.

Points will depend on three factors:

(1) Senior and youth international appearances.

(2) The quality of the selling club, based on the league they are in, league position and progression in continental competition.

(3) Club appearances, based on domestic league and continental competition minutes.

These criteria will provide the basic framework for Premier League and EFL clubs to sign foreign players when the UK eventually leaves the EU next year.

Players who accumulate the right amount of points will be granted a GBE automatically but those who fall short may be considered by an exceptions panel.

What are the Football Association saying about the changes?
FA chief executive Mark Bullingham said: “Despite having different starting perspectives on how Brexit should impact football, this is another example of how the football authorities can work effectively together for the greater good of the game.

"We have a strong working relationship with both the Premier League and EFL and will monitor this new agreement together to ensure it evolves to best meet our joint objectives over time.”


One idea I have thought of is that lower league clubs could sign a full quota of o/S U/23's and see how they acclimatise to British Football and then on sell them to EPL clubs if they make the grade. OM

[God is an Englishman]

One idea I have thought of is that lower league clubs could sign a full quota of o/S U/23's and see how they acclimatise to British Football and then on sell them to EPL clubs if they make the grade. OM

I can only assume you are taking the piss here.

You want to encourage young foreigners in divisions that should be producing young English footballers?

[Old Master]

One idea I have thought of is that lower league clubs could sign a full quota of o/S U/23's and see how they acclimatise to British Football and then on sell them to EPL clubs if they make the grade. OM

I can only assume you are taking the piss here.

You want to encourage young foreigners in divisions that should be producing young English footballers?

Well most EFL clubs have a number of o/s players, probably even Millwall, and many of these are there mainly because they've played a fair few senior games overseas and that gives them an advantage over young British players.
British clubs have always been reluctant to 'blood' young players - even before the introduction of foreign players.