Why is Kewell still in the picture for national team?

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Why is Kewell still in the picture for national team?

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Ok, I know he hasn't made the national team for a while now, but why are there still pundits talking about Harry potentially being in the squad for Brazil? Am I the only one who think it's kind of pathetic to keep going back to someone who's past their best 10 years ago?
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Name an attacking midfielder that will definitely be better then Harry. IMO Harry will bring attacking experience to the squad no one else has. Sure we have a couple of good young attacking players coming thru but I think having Harry around the group even if he doesn't play will be a useful tool for the squad.
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How about ANYBODY who has plays football regularly for their club.

Kewell have been sulking for years now, and what can experienced old players who's well past their best do in the heat of Brazil?

Let's be realistic, Australia isn't going to make it to the knockout rounds, so how about give someone younger and more deserving a go? Kewell should be firmly in the rear view mirror if Australia want to move forward.
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Aurelius wrote:How about ANYBODY who has plays football regularly for their club.

Kewell have been sulking for years now, and what can experienced old players who's well past their best do in the heat of Brazil?

Let's be realistic, Australia isn't going to make it to the knockout rounds, so how about give someone younger and more deserving a go? Kewell should be firmly in the rear view mirror if Australia want to move forward.
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I've always been a big fan of Harry's ever since he scored that goal in Iran - was great at Leeds and has played well for Australia, however he is far too injury prone to risk, he seems to play 70 minutes then be out for 3 games, just not worthwhile
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Knight15 wrote:I've always been a big fan of Harry's ever since he scored that goal in Iran - was great at Leeds and has played well for Australia, however he is far too injury prone to risk, he seems to play 70 minutes then be out for 3 games, just not worthwhile
That is true. That's probably the reason not to have him is his injury record. If he could finish the season off nicely maybe then he would be worth a spot in the squad.
I still think having Harry on the bench if we were somehow drawing or only down by 1 might be a good addition to through on for the last 15 mins.
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Stuckey wrote: Anybody like?
Kruse, Broque, Oar, Leckie, McKay, Rukavyta(? guy playing for Frankfurt), would all be better options.
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Although I will admit that Harry have always seemed more motivated playing for Australia, maybe that's why he's been in better form for country than club.

He is not only injury prune but also sulk alot when his club form dips, instead of work hard to get better he just tend to go on a downward spiral. Never liked his attitude after he left Leeds.
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Anybody unsure of who is a better option than Kewell should read this, which I wrote back in January.

http://footballcentral.com.au/what-are- ... yMVPY0azCQ
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Aurelius wrote:
Stuckey wrote: Anybody like?
Kruse, Broque, Oar, Leckie, McKay, Rukavyta(? guy playing for Frankfurt), would all be better options.
Kruse, sure but he is a big maybe for the WC with his ACL injury.
Brosque, :lol:
Oar, has shown potential but has never shown the form Harry ever has.
Leckie, also has a great amount of potential but will more likely be played as a striker
McKay, isn't an attacking midfielder of Harry's mould
Ruka, same as Leckie

I'm not saying Harry should be played over some of these players I'm just saying hi would be a great addition as along as he's fit.
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Stuckey wrote:
Aurelius wrote:
Stuckey wrote: Anybody like?
Kruse, Broque, Oar, Leckie, McKay, Rukavyta(? guy playing for Frankfurt), would all be better options.
Kruse, sure but he is a big maybe for the WC with his ACL injury.
Brosque, :lol:
Oar, has shown potential but has never shown the form Harry ever has.
Leckie, also has a great amount of potential but will more likely be played as a striker
McKay, isn't an attacking midfielder of Harry's mould
Ruka, same as Leckie

I'm not saying Harry should be played over some of these players I'm just saying hi would be a great addition as along as he's fit.
You can pick bones with any player in the world, there's one thing all of those players have that Harry don't, and that's actual game time. And Harry's mould" is not a thing, he can play wide or centrally, depends on where you want to deploy him, but if you want to throw in central attacking midfielders then Cahill, Rogic, Holman, Bozanic, Vidosic etc.

Fact is, Kewell is well past it, he's been useless on the field for the past 2 years, he's only going to be a liability against Spain and Netherland. It might be down to lack of fitness or motivational issues, but as things stands, all of the above are better players than Harry.

Socceroos aren't going to make it out of the group, it's highly unlikely that they'd get a single point. Even if Kewell is 5 years younger and gets in shape it won't be enough to get Australia through to the next round. So why bother when the younger generation could do with the experience.
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Aurelius wrote:
Stuckey wrote:
Aurelius wrote:
Kruse, Broque, Oar, Leckie, McKay, Rukavyta(? guy playing for Frankfurt), would all be better options.
Kruse, sure but he is a big maybe for the WC with his ACL injury.
Brosque, :lol:
Oar, has shown potential but has never shown the form Harry ever has.
Leckie, also has a great amount of potential but will more likely be played as a striker
McKay, isn't an attacking midfielder of Harry's mould
Ruka, same as Leckie

I'm not saying Harry should be played over some of these players I'm just saying hi would be a great addition as along as he's fit.
You can pick bones with any player in the world, there's one thing all of those players have that Harry don't, and that's actual game time. And Harry's mould" is not a thing, he can play wide or centrally, depends on where you want to deploy him, but if you want to throw in central attacking midfielders then Cahill, Rogic, Holman, Bozanic, Vidosic etc.

Fact is, Kewell is well past it, he's been useless on the field for the past 2 years, he's only going to be a liability against Spain and Netherland. It might be down to lack of fitness or motivational issues, but as things stands, all of the above are better players than Harry.

Socceroos aren't going to make it out of the group, it's highly unlikely that they'd get a single point. Even if Kewell is 5 years younger and gets in shape it won't be enough to get Australia through to the next round. So why bother when the younger generation could do with the experience.
Fair enough that's your opinion I just think that having someone of Harry's stature around the squad may help even if he doesn't make it on that park. I'm certainly all for giving the young kids a go and certainly over most of the golden generation. Most of who are well past in. I just feel Harry doesn't have to be 100% fit to make a difference.
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maybe get him around camps as a coach mentor...would be more exciting for a socceroos point of view, but as a player lets look to new avenues
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If H is really fit and playing really well at the end of the season I say pick him, if not leave him behind.

He does have experience and still has a superb touch (when fit) and can pass accurately (again if fit) but can he match the pace of international football?

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