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Had an interesting chat at SAASL HQ on Friday in regards to the Divisional Structure.

My thoughts were that the Top Two Divisions on Saturday and Sunday should be twelve team leagues. Mainly on the basis that I would like to see a slight increase in games. I was told that the SAASL tried this a few years ago but it proved to be tood fiicult in relation to pitch availability etc.

Another club representative suggested that a final series should be introduced and a playoff system for promotion and relgation. Im not sure about this. If you are in the top two then you deserve to be promoted.

What are people's thoughts or is it the old chestnut, if aint broke, dont fix it.
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Play offs/Finals to decide the league are a ridiculous Australian notion. It aint broke - everyone knows what they need to do to win, leave it alone.
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Paleon Patros Germanos wrote:Another club representative suggested that a final series should be introduced and a playoff system for promotion and relgation.
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Old Redback wrote:Play offs/Finals to decide the league are a ridiculous Australian notion. It aint broke - everyone knows what they need to do to win, leave it alone.
Championship played in Australia then is it?
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Lucas Leiva wrote:
Old Redback wrote:Play offs/Finals to decide the league are a ridiculous Australian notion. It aint broke - everyone knows what they need to do to win, leave it alone.
Championship played in Australia then is it?
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Paleon Patros Germanos wrote:Had an interesting chat at SAASL HQ on Friday in regards to the Divisional Structure.

My thoughts were that the Top Two Divisions on Saturday and Sunday should be twelve team leagues. Mainly on the basis that I would like to see a slight increase in games. I was told that the SAASL tried this a few years ago but it proved to be tood fiicult in relation to pitch availability etc.

Another club representative suggested that a final series should be introduced and a playoff system for promotion and relgation. Im not sure about this. If you are in the top two then you deserve to be promoted.

What are people's thoughts or is it the old chestnut, if aint broke, dont fix it.
Agree 12 team comp would be a great inclusion but finals - NO!
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Played a few years in a 12 team Sunday Division 2 wasn't too bad...might be difficult for teams sharing grounds ith cricket clubs.
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Leave it alone - season appears long enough with so many cup rounds and it is after all the amateur league. Look at the FFSA, they keep chopping and changing and they have the silly finals system which rewards mediocrity.
Just a thought regarding cup rounds - have they ever considered having one for Saturday teams and a separate one for Sunday teams (as players from both dont always seem to be available if drawn away). Then maybe have a "super" cup at the end, maybe played on a Friday night at end of season?
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12 Teams would be ideal for me......
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Bomber wrote:Leave it alone - season appears long enough with so many cup rounds and it is after all the amateur league. Look at the FFSA, they keep chopping and changing and they have the silly finals system which rewards mediocrity.
Just a thought regarding cup rounds - have they ever considered having one for Saturday teams and a separate one for Sunday teams (as players from both dont always seem to be available if drawn away). Then maybe have a "super" cup at the end, maybe played on a Friday night at end of season?
Reason why I mention it is that alot of lads from the United Kingdom are astounded by the lack of football we play here.

However I agree with Swannsong that there may be an issue with ground availability etc.

Interesting idea though.
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Paleon Patros Germanos wrote:Reason why I mention it is that alot of lads from the United Kingdom are astounded by the lack of football we play here.
That is true but in the UK we play for our club on a Saturday and then our pub on a Sunday.
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Old Redback wrote:
Paleon Patros Germanos wrote:Reason why I mention it is that alot of lads from the United Kingdom are astounded by the lack of football we play here.
That is true but in the UK we play for our club on a Saturday and then our pub on a Sunday.
And Winter lasts 9 months of the year.
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Bacon888 wrote:
Old Redback wrote:
Paleon Patros Germanos wrote:Reason why I mention it is that alot of lads from the United Kingdom are astounded by the lack of football we play here.
That is true but in the UK we play for our club on a Saturday and then our pub on a Sunday.
And Winter lasts 9 months of the year.
Only 9???
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Mackem Lad wrote:
Bacon888 wrote:
Old Redback wrote:
That is true but in the UK we play for our club on a Saturday and then our pub on a Sunday.
And Winter lasts 9 months of the year.
Only 9???
1 month each for Autumn, Summer & Spring.
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Bacon888 wrote:
Mackem Lad wrote:
Bacon888 wrote:
And Winter lasts 9 months of the year.
Only 9???
1 month each for Autumn, Summer & Spring.
I heard summer was on a Wednesday this year did that make a difference?
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outlaw, WTF are you on, most of your posts add very little if anything to the topic.
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id love to play finals!!!!
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Finals/Play offs - no WAY

More games - yes please.

Issue is going to be ground availability and quality of teams involved. I'd say keep it as 10 teams but play each other 3 times.

Either that or a new cup - a split Saturday/sunday cup or maybe senior/junior cup (giving lower division clubs a cup to aim for) or a northern/southern cup?

As was stated, so much less football played over here and yes you do play for your club on a Saturday and your pub on a sunday.
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God is an Englishman wrote:Finals/Play offs - no WAY

More games - yes please.

Issue is going to be ground availability and quality of teams involved. I'd say keep it as 10 teams but play each other 3 times.

Either that or a new cup - a split Saturday/sunday cup or maybe senior/junior cup (giving lower division clubs a cup to aim for) or a northern/southern cup?

As was stated, so much less football played over here and yes you do play for your club on a Saturday and your pub on a sunday.
Not sure on a 27 game league but I think 22 is doable.

How many clubs ground share in the top two divisions on each day.
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Allow dual registrations, if players want to play more games then they can play both days.
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Paleon Patros Germanos wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:Finals/Play offs - no WAY

More games - yes please.

Issue is going to be ground availability and quality of teams involved. I'd say keep it as 10 teams but play each other 3 times.

Either that or a new cup - a split Saturday/sunday cup or maybe senior/junior cup (giving lower division clubs a cup to aim for) or a northern/southern cup?

As was stated, so much less football played over here and yes you do play for your club on a Saturday and your pub on a sunday.
Not sure on a 27 game league but I think 22 is doable.

How many clubs ground share in the top two divisions on each day.
hazara/rb eagles/monarchs - all at grange
florina/inter
oisc 1/oisc 2 etc,,,
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loving food all day wrote:outlaw, WTF are you on, most of your posts add very little if anything to the topic.
Sorry to disappoint you mate, your obviously a seasoned campaigner with your 7 posts.......

As far as a bigger league with finals etc. now they have introduced the per season cup, the Playford and city of Salisbury cup I think the league goes long enough. Pre season at the farm there were players who were involved in training and games tues, thurs, fri and sun over a number of weeks.

When talking about finals the short answer is...... No.





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God is an Englishman wrote:
Paleon Patros Germanos wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:Finals/Play offs - no WAY

More games - yes please.

Issue is going to be ground availability and quality of teams involved. I'd say keep it as 10 teams but play each other 3 times.

Either that or a new cup - a split Saturday/sunday cup or maybe senior/junior cup (giving lower division clubs a cup to aim for) or a northern/southern cup?

As was stated, so much less football played over here and yes you do play for your club on a Saturday and your pub on a sunday.
Not sure on a 27 game league but I think 22 is doable.

How many clubs ground share in the top two divisions on each day.
hazara/rb eagles/monarchs - all at grange
florina/inter
oisc 1/oisc 2 etc,,,
Sorry, I forgot to whom I was speaking. I meant who shares their ground with another sport.
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27 games unlikely due to many grounds having cricket also.

12 team leagues possible, 22 games only a four week extension

2 more home games to increase revenue
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Paleon Patros Germanos wrote: Sorry, I forgot to whom I was speaking. I meant who shares their ground with another sport.
should have made yourself clearer then.

The answers above are still correct though (not sure about inter/florina). Most clubs would ground share with cricket I would imagine. Look at how teams struggle for grounds for pre season.

And yes, I know ground availability would be hard for 27 games but was merely brain storming an idea and an ideal situation. I think the quality would be too diluted with 12 teams.
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could they play some mid week games during the season ? eg double headers Wed nights.

i would love to play 3 games in 8 days, rather then drag the season out longer.
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Double headers or mid week matches could work. The difficulty there would be when would you play the C Grade or do the Seniors and reserves only have an extended season?

Clubs could also lose out on the potential increase in rveenue.

Will 12 teams dilute the League, potentially.
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Back in 1992, Elizabeth Downs played 22 Sunday Division 2 league games (runners up promoted to Division 1), 2 Challenge Cup Rounds and 6 Newsfront Cup (Consolation Cup) games (which we won the final)....30 games in total (not including pre-season)....don't recall too many issues apart from one night catch up game against Noarlunga Lions at the Veneto Club.
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double headers should be the last resort, assuming we both think the same thing as a double header.

I see a double header as playing the team twice on the same day (get loads of these in England in March/April) 2 x games straight after each other - 35min each way.

How many teams have lights good enough? 2 (or is it 3 with lights) pitches available at grange (actually what about the clubs that play there - do they train there as well?)
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