Hearts are poised to take further steps towards moving to a new stadium after revealing they are 'suffocating' at Tynecastle.
A report has recently been compiled regarding the possibility of redeveloping their home and it concluded that redevelopment of the Edinburgh venue was 'not a viable option'.
The report, jointly commissioned by Hearts and City of Edinburgh council, also stated the stadium "is in poor condition, lacks many amenities, is constrained by adjacent occupiers and is non Uefa compliant", while recommending an alternative site be sought.
Hearts are prepared to co-operate with the findings of the report, conducted over three months by consultants Doig+Smith and GVA Grimley, and deliver a new stadium with the aim of building a 'top-class' football team.
Difficulties
"The emotional ties are undoubtedly to try and redevelop the existing Tynecastle Stadium. However, this report highlights the extreme difficulties the club faces," a spokesman told the club's official website.
"The club is suffocating in its present location but the owner (Vladimir Romanov) and board remain determined to develop a first-class footballing arena in the city.
"The report provides a number of significant recommendations relating to potential partnership models and we will consider these over the coming weeks. We must deliver a new stadium in order to meet our aim of building a top-class football team based in west Edinburgh.
"In turn we will be better able to reflect the city's desire for greater business growth, job creation, revenue generation, attraction of more visitors to the city and showcase Edinburgh as a true footballing and sports city as well as a Festival city."
MAYBE TRY AND FILL IT EVERY WEEK FIRST!!!
very similar to the adelaide united situation too
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Crowd numbers isn't the issue. Tynecastle is a very ugly looking stadium. Main stand is a disgrace. Facilities for players and fans must be upgraded. It's time to move on.
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agree with that. i was there ten years ago. Very dated and run down. From what ive heard that havent done much with it since. Heard they were looking at murrayfield as a temp fixHMFC wrote:Crowd numbers isn't the issue. Tynecastle is a very ugly looking stadium. Main stand is a disgrace. Facilities for players and fans must be upgraded. It's time to move on.
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do a quick fix until you start filling it, waste of money reallyHMFC wrote:Crowd numbers isn't the issue. Tynecastle is a very ugly looking stadium. Main stand is a disgrace. Facilities for players and fans must be upgraded. It's time to move on.
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I played there a few times over forty years ago and it had poor facilities for players and the public back then!
Cold showers were a regular occurrence and the toilets were always backed up.
Even the Bovril was cold!
Cold showers were a regular occurrence and the toilets were always backed up.
Even the Bovril was cold!
The older I get the better I was.
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Re: hearts need new stadium?
Who did you play for "Old Master", did you play against Hearts or did you play for them ?Old Master wrote:I played there a few times over forty years ago and it had poor facilities for players and the public back then!
Cold showers were a regular occurrence and the toilets were always backed up.
Even the Bovril was cold!
I have also heard that Hearts are in abit of trouble financially. They havent paid their 1st team players
for 2 weeks and have put up one of their best players for transfer to ease the burden.
Time will tell.
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As HMFC said the proposal to move to a new stadium has little to do with our current home crowd figures but rather the fact that Tynecastle or the main stand in particular is no longer fit for purpose. Although in an ideal world the stand would be replaced and we could remain at Tynecastle, our home for the past 125 years, safety issues relating to a distillery nearby and the fact that a new stadium would allow greater revenue whether it be from ground sharing with Edinburgh Rugby, hosting concerts etc has seen the redevelopment of the current Tynecastle labelled unviable. Just because we currently aren’t selling out the stadium every other week along with every other Scottish football club including Celtic doesn’t mean that in the future this will be the case as seen after the relative success of the 05/06 season where we had a demand for 19,000 season tickets, 5500 more than we could provide. Whether a new stadium is built or not the current main stand is not sufficient and needs to be replaced and there is only so much quick fixing a stand approaching 100 years of age can take.
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a lot of the empty seats you see are from our 40'000 odd season book holders who sometimes do not turn up for whatever reason, all the ga seats for each home game are generally soldTalk O' The Toon wrote:As HMFC said the proposal to move to a new stadium has little to do with our current home crowd figures but rather the fact that Tynecastle or the main stand in particular is no longer fit for purpose. Although in an ideal world the stand would be replaced and we could remain at Tynecastle, our home for the past 125 years, safety issues relating to a distillery nearby and the fact that a new stadium would allow greater revenue whether it be from ground sharing with Edinburgh Rugby, hosting concerts etc has seen the redevelopment of the current Tynecastle labelled unviable. Just because we currently aren’t selling out the stadium every other week along with every other Scottish football club including Celtic doesn’t mean that in the future this will be the case as seen after the relative success of the 05/06 season where we had a demand for 19,000 season tickets, 5500 more than we could provide. Whether a new stadium is built or not the current main stand is not sufficient and needs to be replaced and there is only so much quick fixing a stand approaching 100 years of age can take.
yes we know tynecastle is dilapidated but surely a rebuild is a better option considering mad vlad is selling off the top few earners, your club is turning into a shambles again after having some decent form under a good boss this year
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a lot of the empty seats you see are from our 40'000 odd season book holders who sometimes do not turn up for whatever reason, all the ga seats for each home game are generally sold
yes we know tynecastle is dilapidated but surely a rebuild is a better option considering mad vlad is selling off the top few earners, your club is turning into a shambles again after having some decent form under a good boss this year[/quote]
What has the average attendance been at parkhead this season? I would estimate around 49,000 meaning that if general admission are generally sold and you have 40,000 odd season ticket holders that roughly 1 in every 4 of those season ticket holders aren’t showing up to games, hard to believe. Having said that by no means am I having a go at the attendances at Celtic this season but simply highlighting the fact that no club in Scotland is selling out on a regular basis for one reason or another.
If only a rebuild of the main stand was as a simple decision and process as it would appear to be but planning permission, the fact we are limited by the size of the stand (capacity) we can build due to the distillery creating health and safety issues and further reasons such as revenue maximisation make it extremely complicated and as the article suggests it just won’t happen.
There is no doubt the way the club is run by Vlad at times is a shambles and with a crippling debt the need to get rid of high earners, if reports are to be believed, must be seen as a necessity and we have to live within our means. Where we get the money for this proposed new stadium is a mystery though.
yes we know tynecastle is dilapidated but surely a rebuild is a better option considering mad vlad is selling off the top few earners, your club is turning into a shambles again after having some decent form under a good boss this year[/quote]
What has the average attendance been at parkhead this season? I would estimate around 49,000 meaning that if general admission are generally sold and you have 40,000 odd season ticket holders that roughly 1 in every 4 of those season ticket holders aren’t showing up to games, hard to believe. Having said that by no means am I having a go at the attendances at Celtic this season but simply highlighting the fact that no club in Scotland is selling out on a regular basis for one reason or another.
If only a rebuild of the main stand was as a simple decision and process as it would appear to be but planning permission, the fact we are limited by the size of the stand (capacity) we can build due to the distillery creating health and safety issues and further reasons such as revenue maximisation make it extremely complicated and as the article suggests it just won’t happen.
There is no doubt the way the club is run by Vlad at times is a shambles and with a crippling debt the need to get rid of high earners, if reports are to be believed, must be seen as a necessity and we have to live within our means. Where we get the money for this proposed new stadium is a mystery though.
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Re: hearts need new stadium?
This doesn't sound good for Hearts in particular but football in general. How long before the rich owners,who are not really interested in football except as a status symbol, get bored and start walking away?Vladimir Romanov rocked Scottish football with the admission he is ready to sell Hearts.
The Russian banker, who claimed he has fallen out of love with football, revealed he is laying the groundwork for a January sell-off of senior talent by insisting that the club’s high-flying academy kids deserve a chance to impress.
Romanov, who has become increasingly involved in Lithuanian basketball in recent years, dropped his bombshell at the end of another scatter-gun rant on the club’s official website.
"The game is about glory, doing things in style and with a flourish, going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
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Hearts owner Vladimir Romanov has revealed that he is considering selling the club.
According to a statement on the Scottish Premier League team's official website, the Lithuanian businessman said that he had lost interest in football and that he is now considering finding a partner or selling the club.
Hearts officials said that Romanov had confirmed he would stand by the club and continue to support the Edinburgh side, despite battling against what he calls "an orchestrated campaign against him personally and, by association, the club".
The club are more than £30million in debt and believed to be prepared to listen to offers for their players, with Romanov expressing his reluctance to continue to plough money into the club.
Romanov told Hearts News: "For seven years I keep hoping that in the country that is the cradle of football they will start respecting the game and stop taking the mickey out of the game itself and the people who are trying to fight for it, but it's like asking the mafia for remorse.
"There is only one solution left - to turn our attention to the products of our football academy in the hope that this situation will at some point and somehow improve by itself.
"Finally, the powers that be have begun discussing a new stadium - it seems like the politicians have developed some sort of responsibility to their own citizens, or maybe their human side has been awoken.
Shakespeare's question
"And still Shakespeare's question lingers on - to be or not to be - for football to change, or will it keep on developing as a show under the media blanket and we are finally overtaken by Lithuania and Gabon.
"I haven't lost my interest in the club but I have for football. By the law of the 'free world' it is not enough to do good deeds - you have to also pay to advertise them in the press and then it's possible to carry out crimes without any consequences.
"The problem is that I refuse to pay the monkeys for the advertisement as someone has to resist their domination in sport and in culture, the economy and history. That's why I now have to consider finding a partner or selling the club."
Support
"Mr Romanov has confirmed that he will stand by the club and continue to support it to the extent it remains reasonable as he continues to fight against what he and an increasing number of supporters and associates are seeing as an orchestrated campaign against him personally and, by association, the club," reads a statement on Hearts' official website.
"The position of the shareholder in relation to football in Scotland, in which he has invested more than any other individual in the last six years, is unsatisfactory.
"Hearts must, therefore, prepare to reduce investment in the playing squad to match the income in the coming season and turn to the Academy for its new additions while also improving revenue streams, including working on a new stadium in order to achieve this as soon as possible.
"It is important to stress that Hearts at the moment is strongly dependent on the funding from the major shareholder and the attempts of the media to undermine the position of the club and Mr Romanov pose a direct threat to the immediate future of the club."
Hearts have also strongly denied reports of a possible "fire sale of" players.
A club spokesman said: "The club has some of the best players in the country and no player will be transferred for a penny less than their true value.
"Hearts will address squad efficiency over the coming months as a normal course of business. We will continue to pursue our policy of focusing on youth development."
According to a statement on the Scottish Premier League team's official website, the Lithuanian businessman said that he had lost interest in football and that he is now considering finding a partner or selling the club.
Hearts officials said that Romanov had confirmed he would stand by the club and continue to support the Edinburgh side, despite battling against what he calls "an orchestrated campaign against him personally and, by association, the club".
The club are more than £30million in debt and believed to be prepared to listen to offers for their players, with Romanov expressing his reluctance to continue to plough money into the club.
Romanov told Hearts News: "For seven years I keep hoping that in the country that is the cradle of football they will start respecting the game and stop taking the mickey out of the game itself and the people who are trying to fight for it, but it's like asking the mafia for remorse.
"There is only one solution left - to turn our attention to the products of our football academy in the hope that this situation will at some point and somehow improve by itself.
"Finally, the powers that be have begun discussing a new stadium - it seems like the politicians have developed some sort of responsibility to their own citizens, or maybe their human side has been awoken.
Shakespeare's question
"And still Shakespeare's question lingers on - to be or not to be - for football to change, or will it keep on developing as a show under the media blanket and we are finally overtaken by Lithuania and Gabon.
"I haven't lost my interest in the club but I have for football. By the law of the 'free world' it is not enough to do good deeds - you have to also pay to advertise them in the press and then it's possible to carry out crimes without any consequences.
"The problem is that I refuse to pay the monkeys for the advertisement as someone has to resist their domination in sport and in culture, the economy and history. That's why I now have to consider finding a partner or selling the club."
Support
"Mr Romanov has confirmed that he will stand by the club and continue to support it to the extent it remains reasonable as he continues to fight against what he and an increasing number of supporters and associates are seeing as an orchestrated campaign against him personally and, by association, the club," reads a statement on Hearts' official website.
"The position of the shareholder in relation to football in Scotland, in which he has invested more than any other individual in the last six years, is unsatisfactory.
"Hearts must, therefore, prepare to reduce investment in the playing squad to match the income in the coming season and turn to the Academy for its new additions while also improving revenue streams, including working on a new stadium in order to achieve this as soon as possible.
"It is important to stress that Hearts at the moment is strongly dependent on the funding from the major shareholder and the attempts of the media to undermine the position of the club and Mr Romanov pose a direct threat to the immediate future of the club."
Hearts have also strongly denied reports of a possible "fire sale of" players.
A club spokesman said: "The club has some of the best players in the country and no player will be transferred for a penny less than their true value.
"Hearts will address squad efficiency over the coming months as a normal course of business. We will continue to pursue our policy of focusing on youth development."