Small sided games 2011

[hudsona]

How's the U11 format going...especially re 'keepers:

from the Optus SSG 2011 handbook:
Under 8 – 11
Goalkeeper
The goalkeeper is allowed to handle the ball anywhere in the penalty area.
To restart play after a save or gathering the ball with their hands, the ball
must be thrown or rolled from the hands or played from the ground with
their feet, within 6 seconds. The goalkeeper is not allowed to kick or drop
kick the ball directly from their hands. Opponents must be at least 5m
outside the penalty area and cannot move inside the penalty area until the
ball is in play. The ball is in play once it moves out of the penalty area or
when the goalkeeper places the ball on the ground*.
An indirect free kick is awarded if the goalkeeper touches the ball with his
hands after it has been deliberately kicked to him by a team-mate.
* Goalkeeper Progression
The developmental progression of the game becoming “live”
when the goalkeeper places the ball on the ground provides the
necessary learning phase for players transitioning to the 11 v 11
format of football.


any feedback from coaches on it? the keeper rule certainly a major difference to the old rooball

[Željko Jurin]

Same as u10 in 2010 isnt it ????

[hudsona]

yes same as U10 rules.

[BIG RED]

An indirect free kick is awarded if the goalkeeper touches the ball with his
hands after it has been deliberately kicked to him by a team-mate.

could make it interesting at times

[Željko Jurin]

An indirect free kick is awarded if the goalkeeper touches the ball with his
hands after it has been deliberately kicked to him by a team-mate.

could make it interesting at times

It is just the normal backpass rule, u11s will be fine with it

[Ginger Pele]

I have the 2011 Handbook in front of me and both the new goalkeeping rules apply to age groups U8-11's inclusive

Also game times are as follows

U6/7-2 x15 min halves
U8/9-2 x 20 min halves
U1o/11- 2 x 25 min halves

[Željko Jurin]

So previously gk's could pick up a back pass ?

[Filikis Eterias]

Pitch & goal sizes for each age group please. 

[Ginger Pele]

So previously gk's could pick up a back pass ?

I think so

Probably for the U8/9's I wouldnt have thought it necessary as it might be a bit much to take in for some kids and as a coach I wouldnt have too much of an issue if the opponents keeper picked it up from a "backpass"

You might find then that the children might be too frightened to pick the ball up full stop in fear of doing the wrong thing.

For the U10/11"s I think it is a good idea as they work towards the full scale format in U12's.

As long as game leaders are flexible and not stupid over it just to gain an advantage we should be ok

[Željko Jurin]

So previously gk's could pick up a back pass ?

As long as game leaders are flexible and not stupid over it just to gain an advantage we should be ok

And from past experience, we both know that this won't happen in some places .....

[Ginger Pele]

Pitch & goal sizes for each age group please. 

Pitch

U6/7-30m x 20m

U8/9-Length-Min 40m-Max 50m-----Width-Min-30m-Max-40m

U10/11-Length-Min-60m-Max-70m-----Width-Min-40m-Max-50m

Goal Sizes

U6/7-Width-1.5m-2.0m----Height-0.9m-1.0m

U8/9-Width-2.5m-3.0m-----Height-1.8m-2.0m

U10/11-Width-4.5m-5.0m-----Height-1.8m-2.0m

[Ginger Pele]

So previously gk's could pick up a back pass ?

As long as game leaders are flexible and not stupid over it just to gain an advantage we should be ok

And from past experience, we both know that this won't happen in some places .....

Exactly, I mean lets be honest

A poor 7 yr old keeper picks the ball up by mistake and the game leader says free kick

The Penalty area is only 5m long x 12m wide so the free kick gets taken so close to goal that when its taken the keeper may as well not be there as he will have to duck for cover or get his head knocked off.

Solution-If I was game leader say play on and then just have a chat with the child to let them know nicely that we cant pick the ball up next time.

If it happens again I would let the attacking team take there indirect free kick fro a distance deemed fair for a good strike at goal but also for the defending team to at least be given a chance i.e-safe for the keeper.

Just my opinion thats all

[Željko Jurin]

Commonsense, that's all it is, but Ginger we both know alot of parents don't have it ...

Sad but true

[BIG RED]

So previously gk's could pick up a back pass ?

I think so

Probably for the U8/9's I wouldnt have thought it necessary as it might be a bit much to take in for some kids and as a coach I wouldnt have too much of an issue if the opponents keeper picked it up from a "backpass"

You might find then that the children might be too frightened to pick the ball up full stop in fear of doing the wrong thing.

For the U10/11"s I think it is a good idea as they work towards the full scale format in U12's.

As long as game leaders are flexible and not stupid over it just to gain an advantage we should be ok

yeh I was thinking about the issues that could happen with the U8's and maybe 9s GK's (re understanding the rule) and maybe the issues with the ball being picked up in a small goal area - ie the free kick will be pretty close to the goal.

oh and the common sense factor of parents, game leaders and coaches

I dont think it will be an issue to often in a season (luckily)

[Bomber]

Young Croydon boys looked awesome tonight.

PS - why is the SSG games 2009, 2010 topic still stickied? :?

[Ginger Pele]

Young Croydon boys looked awesome tonight.

PS - why is the SSG games 2009, 2010 topic still stickied? :?

What age group?

[Bomber]

Young Croydon boys looked awesome tonight.

PS - why is the SSG games 2009, 2010 topic still stickied? :?

What age group?

Not sure to be honest, was busy checking out some of the mothers. (Only kidding!!!)

Nah, a few lads had very good skills, well advanced for their age. Main thing is they ALL were having fun and were having a real go. The future of the club looks good!

[Ginger Pele]

Young Croydon boys looked awesome tonight.

PS - why is the SSG games 2009, 2010 topic still stickied? :?

What age group?

Not sure to be honest, was busy checking out some of the mothers. (Only kidding!!!)

Nah, a few lads had very good skills, well advanced for their age. Main thing is they ALL were having fun and were having a real go. The future of the club looks good!

Good stuff,look forward to playing against them again this year

[gramps]

As I will probably get asked to be a game leader for u/11's this year, I have a couple of questions.
Some teams are instructing their gk's to place the ball on the ground and to kick back into play instead of rolling or throwing the ball back into play (not a goal kick situation). Do we say no to this or let it go?
Once the gk places the ball on the ground and steps back to take a run up, is the ball considered to be 'in play'? My thinking is that the gk has lost possesion of the ball and any opposition player is entitled to win back the ball for his/her team.
What are peoples thoughts?????

[Ginger Pele]

As I will probably get asked to be a game leader for u/11's this year, I have a couple of questions.
Some teams are instructing their gk's to place the ball on the ground and to kick back into play instead of rolling or throwing the ball back into play (not a goal kick situation). Do we say no to this or let it go?
Once the gk places the ball on the ground and steps back to take a run up, is the ball considered to be 'in play'? My thinking is that the gk has lost possesion of the ball and any opposition player is entitled to win back the ball for his/her team.
What are peoples thoughts?????

The keeper has a choice to either roll,throw or kick the ball off the ground.

He is not allowed to kick the ball out of his hands(AFL style)

If the keeper puts the ball on the ground to kick it then the ball is deemed "live" and the opposing team are allowed to challenge for the ball.

Doesnt apply to goal kicks obviously where the opposing team must retreat back 5 metres from the penalty box to give the defending team chance to resume play.

[gramps]

That's what I thought. Thanks for your reply.

[Bomber]

Hey Zelk/Hos, whats with the late cancellation by Raiders for the SSG at Croydon tonight? Some of our little ones were very upset. Even Cassio was disappointed as he was hoping to see some gutsy football (unlike recent AU training sessions)!

[Ginger Pele]

Technically a forfiet then

[Bomber]

Technically a forfiet then

Fine them!

[Željko Jurin]

Hey Zelk/Hos, whats with the late cancellation by Raiders for the SSG at Croydon tonight? Some of our little ones were very upset. Even Cassio was disappointed as he was hoping to see some gutsy football (unlike recent AU training sessions)!

No idea bratko, what age group ???

Was it a 'no show' or did we atleast let you guys know ?

[Bomber]

Hey Zelk/Hos, whats with the late cancellation by Raiders for the SSG at Croydon tonight? Some of our little ones were very upset. Even Cassio was disappointed as he was hoping to see some gutsy football (unlike recent AU training sessions)!

No idea bratko, what age group ???

Was it a 'no show' or did we atleast let you guys know ?

Got the call 1 hour beforehand supposedly. They trained instead but really wanted to play. I'm sure they will get over it. Not entirely sure of age groups but was meant to be two of the teams.

[Željko Jurin]

Sorry kids......might fire up the rivalry to AU v MV proportions ....

[Big Mac]

Hey Zelk/Hos, whats with the late cancellation by Raiders for the SSG at Croydon tonight? Some of our little ones were very upset. Even Cassio was disappointed as he was hoping to see some gutsy football (unlike recent AU training sessions)!

Maybe they're forming their own breakaway League

[Željko Jurin]

Ssssshhhhh, don't tell anyone, even trying to get Para Hills in to do SSF, but that could take a miracle .......

[Bomber]

Sorry kids......might fire up the rivalry to AU v MV proportions ....

I trust you lot will leave the flares at home!