Cumberland U/14 A's

[champion_101]

Played 12 games..
Won 0
Drawn 0
Lost 12
Goals For - 0
Goals Against - 134!
(in the first round of the cup the lost 6-2 to The Cove who are 3rd in D divison)
Whats wrong with this team? Surley shouldn't be in the A's

[johnydep]

That's football. Hopefully the kids are learning and developing ready for next year.

Next year they won't be in the A division.

[James]

That's football. Hopefully the kids are learning and developing ready for next year.

Next year they won't be in the A division.

We played them on the week end. They still tried to play out from the back even when getting caught in possession lots. Their coach is trying to point them in the right direction.

[povman_2009]

I have been involved with teams with similar records, what they need is support and a coach who is teaching them the right things, it seems they have got the right idea so good luck to them. What they don't need is people throwing mud at them ...

When it happened to my team I started by setting some targets, like improving by 3 goals against the same team , this meant the kids felt they had achieved something ... the best part is that as someone pointed out they are still trying to play football ...

[James]

Yep the coach was positive to all kids and he was giving his team some good advice. He is a credit to his club.

[SkinninKents]

although its kids. the players with talent coul not enjoy this and we may lose some kids

[povman_2009]

Adversity can sometimes bring people together, I would stress that the "talented players" get involved with helping the less talented ones to improve, it is amazing how even young lads can develop a greater sense of worth if they pull together.

[DONK]

we have the cumberland game coming up and we have already penciled in a 10+ goal win. This team needs to rebuild its u/14 team from scratch and get some kids that can actually play at club level

[Big Mac]

we have the cumberland game coming up and we have already penciled in a 10+ goal win. This team needs to rebuild its u/14 team from scratch and get some kids that can actually play at club level

I'm sure they appreciate your comments.

[Ginger Pele]

we have the cumberland game coming up and we have already penciled in a 10+ goal win. This team needs to rebuild its u/14 team from scratch and get some kids that can actually play at club level

How very humble of you to pencil in a 10+ goal win.Any particular figure that would suit,16-17 maybe

[dihard]

''DONK'' i play at cumberland, i know we shouldn't be in a's, were all trying hard to improve, we have 1 under 12 player, a couple of under 13 players, and a handful of kids that have only played school. We have not had a keeper up until last week, half the goals teams have scored against us are keeper errors, and the rest have been from our team. I bet if your team lost all your players, you'd struggle as well, we shouldn't be in a's like i said, and hopefully we will get more players for next season. Our last game was against ABE, and we only lost 8 nil compared to a 21 nil thrashing, weve improved a bit, and our goal is to improve every game.

so before you say anything else, just think if your team lost all your players, how would you feel.

[dihard]

DONK, or should i say dong,, what team do you play for?

[joejoejoe]

we have the cumberland game coming up and we have already penciled in a 10+ goal win. This team needs to rebuild its u/14 team from scratch and get some kids that can actually play at club level

Not a good idea to count your chickens before they hatch ?
Some teams have won by 6,7,8,9 and some of those teams are above whoever you are in the ladder !

[6]

That's football. Hopefully the kids are learning and developing ready for next year.

Next year they won't be in the A division.

That's a valid point...
How will this issue be resolved next year?
This team like some other are really struggling, the coach and the club are by the sounds of it are trying very hard, but if they get put in the JSL they will still come up against real stiff competition.
How will this team (and others like it) be accommodated next year in the new JSL?
Is it (JSL) flexible enough? Can this be fixed or will it simply continue under the new banner?
What more can a club, coach or ffsa do for this situation?
I personally do not want ot see this happen to any club or team, as its not good for the kids,club or game.

[Big Mac]

That's football. Hopefully the kids are learning and developing ready for next year.

Next year they won't be in the A division.

That's a valid point...
How will this issue be resolved next year?
This team like some other are really struggling, the coach and the club are by the sounds of it are trying very hard, but if they get put in the JSL they will still come up against real stiff competition.
How will this team (and others like it) be accommodated next year in the new JSL?
Is it (JSL) flexible enough? Can this be fixed or will it simply continue under the new banner?
What more can a club, coach or ffsa do for this situation?
I personally do not want ot see this happen to any club or team, as its not good for the kids,club or game.

What makes you think this team will be in the JSL next year?
Under the system they will be in JPL U15 Div. 2 next season.

[Oranges]

I will try to refrain from childish donkdown comments though it is difficult. Cumberland 14's are the gutsiest teams i have had the pleasure of watching all year. The scoreboard isnt always an indication of a teams performance. Hats off to the coach & team ~ who keep their heads up ~ no matter what the score & are encouraged to develop their game. Maybe the coach deserves a mention in the best coach section.

[Mad_Max]

Blah blah blah, whaaa whaaa

DORK - what a great user name. Hope to hear more from you soon

[Mad_Max]

''DONK'' i play at cumberland, i know we shouldn't be in a's, were all trying hard to improve, we have 1 under 12 player, a couple of under 13 players, and a handful of kids that have only played school. We have not had a keeper up until last week, half the goals teams have scored against us are keeper errors, and the rest have been from our team. I bet if your team lost all your players, you'd struggle as well, we shouldn't be in a's like i said, and hopefully we will get more players for next season. Our last game was against ABE, and we only lost 8 nil compared to a 21 nil thrashing, weve improved a bit, and our goal is to improve every game.

Saw some of that second game against ABE and quite a few people were impressed by the way your side has improved over the season. Keep up the good work

[joejoejoe]

I will try to refrain from childish donkdown comments though it is difficult. Cumberland 14's are the gutsiest teams i have had the pleasure of watching all year. The scoreboard isnt always an indication of a teams performance. Hats off to the coach & team ~ who keep their heads up ~ no matter what the score & are encouraged to develop their game. Maybe the coach deserves a mention in the best coach section.

When we played them i noticed parents helping out and being very friendly,mothers actually doing the line,no players swearing or playing dirty,no messing around or faking,no abusive parents,no arguing amongst each other and they seemed to keep their heads up even though the score was on the high side.At the end they all shook hands,our coach spoke to them and their coach and everyone involved seemed as if they didn't really care that they had lost but accepted defeat and took it all in their stride.Someone did comment that they would of been use to it by now but it was a good show of their character regardless.Wish them the best for next season whatever happens as in where they play,if they recruit new players or who coaches them.

[Jeda]

When we played them i noticed parents helping out and being very friendly,mothers actually doing the line,no players swearing or playing dirty,no messing around or faking,no abusive parents,no arguing amongst each other and they seemed to keep their heads up even though the score was on the high side.At the end they all shook hands,our coach spoke to them and their coach and everyone involved seemed as if they didn't really care that they had lost but accepted defeat and took it all in their stride.Someone did comment that they would of been use to it by now but it was a good show of their character regardless.Wish them the best for next season whatever happens as in where they play,if they recruit new players or who coaches them.

what was the score

[Nice One Cyril]

When we played them i noticed parents helping out and being very friendly,mothers actually doing the line,no players swearing or playing dirty,no messing around or faking,no abusive parents,no arguing amongst each other and they seemed to keep their heads up even though the score was on the high side.At the end they all shook hands,our coach spoke to them and their coach and everyone involved seemed as if they didn't really care that they had lost but accepted defeat and took it all in their stride.Someone did comment that they would of been use to it by now but it was a good show of their character regardless.Wish them the best for next season whatever happens as in where they play,if they recruit new players or who coaches them.

what was the score

I assume you're being a smartarse with that comment.

Does it matter? They're still out there giving it 100% and hopefully enjoying the improvement they deserve. Who gives a flying fuck what the results are so long as they're learning from every game?

I've always thought you should learn more from a defeat than a victory anyway.

[joejoejoe]

When we played them i noticed parents helping out and being very friendly,mothers actually doing the line,no players swearing or playing dirty,no messing around or faking,no abusive parents,no arguing amongst each other and they seemed to keep their heads up even though the score was on the high side.At the end they all shook hands,our coach spoke to them and their coach and everyone involved seemed as if they didn't really care that they had lost but accepted defeat and took it all in their stride.Someone did comment that they would of been use to it by now but it was a good show of their character regardless.Wish them the best for next season whatever happens as in where they play,if they recruit new players or who coaches them.

what was the score

I assume you're being a smartarse with that comment.

Does it matter? They're still out there giving it 100% and hopefully enjoying the improvement they deserve. Who gives a flying shiraz what the results are so long as they're learning from every game?

I've always thought you should learn more from a defeat than a victory anyway.

I didn't write the score as they obviously didn't lose 1-0 and I did say the score was on the high side.
If you want to know check out the FFSA results for round 9.
I hope something happens to the team that have penciled in that they will win 10+ and they lose or draw !!!
I dont mean injuries etc. but like a vast form change and the other side gives them a surprise....its happened before at the highest level !!!

[Jeda]

all of you you come on here like some righteous preacher yet your all for the coach allowing your kids to score 15, 20, 25 goals hypocrites all of you

[joejoejoe]

all of you you come on here like some righteous preacher yet your all for the coach allowing your kids to score 15, 20, 25 goals hypocrites all of you

I dont think i helps if you dont try against them.That would be a bad insult..to let them win,draw,score against you purposely.
When one plays games with very young children like 3,4,5 yr olds its ok to let them win and pretend that you loss but to do that to 14 yr olds doesn't sound right.What would be the benefit in doing that ? Do you think it would be helping them ?
Any sports psychologists out there to shed light on the subject ???
The words righteous,preacher and hypocrites all sound like religious or biblical words..instead of teams scoring goals would you like the teams to pray for them ?? I somehow dont think they would be very amused about that..they wouldn't want to play teams that aren't trying.Our 1/2 time score was 4-0 but they got tired in the second half chasing the ball so much... to their credit they (boys,coach,parents) didn't give up.

[Jeda]

all of you you come on here like some righteous preacher yet your all for the coach allowing your kids to score 15, 20, 25 goals hypocrites all of you

I dont think i helps if you dont try against them.That would be a bad insult..to let them win,draw,score against you purposely.
When one plays games with very young children like 3,4,5 yr olds its ok to let them win and pretend that you loss but to do that to 14 yr olds doesn't sound right.What would be the benefit in doing that ? Do you think it would be helping them ?
Any sports psychologists out there to shed light on the subject ???
The words righteous,preacher and hypocrites all sound like religious or biblical words..instead of teams scoring goals would you like the teams to pray for them ?? I somehow dont think they would be very amused about that..they wouldn't want to play teams that aren't trying.Our 1/2 time score was 4-0 but they got tired in the second half chasing the ball so much... to their credit they (boys,coach,parents) didn't give up.

the "best" coach would use such a game as a training session god;-) there are so many techniques & tactics that can be used in a game to make scoring more challenging that i'll leave it to you to ask your sons coach what they are & then report it here it's not gonna happen, not till we get rid of the self righteous that need little johny to win every week

[joejoejoe]

all of you you come on here like some righteous preacher yet your all for the coach allowing your kids to score 15, 20, 25 goals hypocrites all of you

I dont think i helps if you dont try against them.That would be a bad insult..to let them win,draw,score against you purposely.
When one plays games with very young children like 3,4,5 yr olds its ok to let them win and pretend that you loss but to do that to 14 yr olds doesn't sound right.What would be the benefit in doing that ? Do you think it would be helping them ?
Any sports psychologists out there to shed light on the subject ???
The words righteous,preacher and hypocrites all sound like religious or biblical words..instead of teams scoring goals would you like the teams to pray for them ?? I somehow dont think they would be very amused about that..they wouldn't want to play teams that aren't trying.Our 1/2 time score was 4-0 but they got tired in the second half chasing the ball so much... to their credit they (boys,coach,parents) didn't give up.

the "best" coach would use such a game as a training session god;-) there are so many techniques & tactics that can be used in a game to make scoring more challenging that i'll leave it to you to ask your sons coach what they are & then report it here it's not gonna happen, not till we get rid of the self righteous that need little johny to win every week

Thats what we basically did..thats why only 4-0 at 1/2 time....but as i said in the 2nd half due to all the chasing and their lack of possesion they tired badly..not heads down or not try but tired. Also the maximun goals scored by forwards was 2 each x 3 or 4 boys and the rest lots of other players.I am pretty sure about that although i did the line that day !!!

[Nice One Cyril]

all of you you come on here like some righteous preacher yet your all for the coach allowing your kids to score 15, 20, 25 goals hypocrites all of you

I'll make another assumption. That you are a child.

How many you score or don't score is not the point.

The point is, it's bang out of order to take the piss out of kids that are doing their best. That's all they can give.
You might think you play in a good team (not that I know which team that is) but there's always someone better. These things have a way of coming back to bite you on the arse.

If you want to find the try the mirror

[Bomber]

Probably isnt right that a team thumping another starts "toying" in the game, ie tries not to score - thats probably more humiliating. I remember a few times when I first put the boots on as a 7 year old - if one team was getting hammered, it was not unusual that the coaches agreed to swap a few players around to even the game up. Some kids naturally opposed wearing another teams's shirt, but once the game was on, no arguments. Mind you, I am talking about a much younger age group so I dont necessarily agree with the principle for higher than U/12's.
End of the day I know what its like to be on a losing team of 13-0 and also on the winning side of 17-0. It doesnt last forever and you just put it down to one of life's experiences in junior sport.
If the Cumby boys are improving, and enjoying it, then that's all that matters.

[Stonthialo]

It doesnt last forever and you just put it down to one of life's experiences in junior sport.
If the Cumby boys are improving, and enjoying it, then that's all that matters.

So very true Bomber. People these days focus on the outcome too much. We should focus on the process and the way in which you can develop juniors to be tactically more advanced. At age 13 it is more important to the child's career than winning 14-0. Winning does build esteem and confidence but a good coach should be able to do this no matter what result.

As a teacher of children at a primary level, the development of the basics is way more important than the result. Too many children play football these days and struggle to use both feet, control the ball, struggle with positioning-offensive & defence and are too results driven. Build and develop properly from youth and the rewards will come forth as they grow older.

[johnydep]

It doesnt last forever and you just put it down to one of life's experiences in junior sport.
If the Cumby boys are improving, and enjoying it, then that's all that matters.

So very true Bomber. People these days focus on the outcome too much. We should focus on the process and the way in which you can develop juniors to be tactically more advanced. At age 13 it is more important to the child's career than winning 14-0. Winning does build esteem and confidence but a good coach should be able to do this no matter what result.

As a teacher of children at a primary level, the development of the basics is way more important than the result. Too many children play football these days and struggle to use both feet, control the ball, struggle with positioning-offensive & defence and are too results driven. Build and develop properly from youth and the rewards will come forth as they grow older.

Well said.