how many spots should Asia lose at the World Cup?

[Russia2O18]

in my opinion they have about 2 too many

[Steve#4]

I'll bite.....Why is that your opinion?

[Russia2O18]

North Korea, 3 straight losses including a 7-nil...4th best team in Asia
Socceroos and NZ both at the same World Cup

seriously...the world does not want to see miss matches and minnows parking the bus for 3 straight games with no ambition to win anything

international media have now begun to question Asia's quotas at World Cups in the wake of South Africa 2010

[Steve#4]

NZ is part of Asia :?

One scoreline that had 7 goals and that is your arguement

Where is the majority of the worlds population?

Asia and Africa is the future of world football whether you like it or not.

Poor arguement in my opinion

[Russia2O18]

NZ is part of Asia :?

One scoreline that had 7 goals and that is your arguement

Where is the majority of the worlds population?

Asia and Africa is the future of world football whether you like it or not.

Poor arguement in my opinion

we've been hearing this argument for years...yet nothing has materialized as yet

NZ are terrible but they defeated Asia's 5th best team

the AFC only had 2 organised teams at this world cup and they offered no contest other than defense in the round of 16

the Socceroos were embarrassed against Germany...probably Asia's 3rd best team...should've played off against NZ for the 0.5 spot

[Steve#4]

Socceroos wern't the only ones embarrassed by Germany.....Who were the other 2 sides they scored 4 against?
What region also were they from......

Once again you use NZ for your arguement(from OCEANIA) and how did the super power Italy do against them?

Sorry, you still haven't convinced me..

[Russia2O18]

Socceroos wern't the only ones embarrassed by Germany.....Who were the other 2 sides they scored 4 against?
What region also were they from......

Once again you use NZ for your arguement(from OCEANIA) and how did the super power Italy do against them?

Sorry, you still haven't convinced me..

NZ parked the bus against Italy and scored a lucky goal..these things happen in football
however they played no football at the tournament...a World Cup finals...didnt deserve to be there

Australia were marginally better but battled away with their physical approach...when you look at the standard of the teams in Europe and South America that missed out and you see Australia, NZ and North Korea all at this tournament...you have to wonder about its credibility

[Steve#4]

someone sounds like sour grapes.

Next you will be telling me Holland don't deserve to be there because they knocked out Brasil

You do what you have to to win, play to your strengths....

Maybe we could have a secondary world cup that just includes nations that play attacking football

We will call it The Attacking World Cup....

[Russia2O18]

someone sounds like sour grapes.

Next you will be telling me Holland don't deserve to be there because they knocked out Brasil

You do what you have to to win, play to your strengths....

Maybe we could have a secondary world cup that just includes nations that play attacking football

We will call it The Attacking World Cup....

no...just football mate

its a World Cup finals...it should be contested by the best teams in the world...not some of the best teams and a large contingent of z-grade amateurs...but the the best 32 teams..or close to it

[Dad's Army]

its a World Cup finals...it should be contested by the best teams in the world...not some of the best teams and a large contingent of z-grade amateurs...but the the best 32 teams..or close to it

Until you throw everyone into one bowl and draw 31 groups of six/seven you won't get it.

[Steve#4]

Sounds like the best 32 from Europe and South America should contest "The World Cup".

[Hawkesy]

Sounds like the best 32 from Europe and South America should contest "The World Cup".

sounds about right to me. I might be mistaken but hasn't only one team outside of there made it even as far as the semi's.

Facts are south america and europe have provided all the winners and the vast majority of the semi finalist and quarter finalists. All the other confederations are just making up the numbers.

[Dad's Army]

Sounds like the best 32 from Europe and South America should contest "The World Cup".

sounds about right to me. I might be mistaken but hasn't only one team outside of there made it even as far as the semi's. .

United States and South Korea... plus don't you consider Türkey an Asian nation?

[Hawkesy]

Sounds like the best 32 from Europe and South America should contest "The World Cup".

sounds about right to me. I might be mistaken but hasn't only one team outside of there made it even as far as the semi's. .

United States and South Korea... plus don't you consider Türkey an Asian nation?

I've been to turkey, but never went to asia

Anyway, under this argument I spoke of "confederations".

So, 2 it is then.

[Dad's Army]

Anyway, under this argument I spoke of "confederations".
So, 2 it is then.

Either way 2>1

[redsfan]

the WC isn't supposed to be about the 32 best teams in the world, it's about bringing the best from each confederation together. There's no point in giving more spots to Europe or South America, the rest of the teams from those areas had a chance to be there and weren't good enough.

Most football fans i know love seeing the various minnow countries playing in the WC.

[El Capitano]

In my opinion Europe has too many spots.

[# 9]

just add an extra 8 teams to the cup

[LonsdaleBologna]

NZ parked the bus against Italy and scored a lucky goal..these things happen in football

And Italy didn't score an even luckier, uglier and not to mention dubious equalizer??

the WC isn't supposed to be about the 32 best teams in the world, it's about bringing the best from each confederation together. There's no point in giving more spots to Europe or South America, the rest of the teams from those areas had a chance to be there and weren't good enough.

Most football fans i know love seeing the various minnow countries playing in the WC.

Bingo. And that's exactly why I love the world cup and snooze at the Euro champions league. I've loved the AFC ACL not only cause AU have been in there but you've got that real difference between sides and playing styles.

[Mr Magoo]

Socceroos wern't the only ones embarrassed by Germany.....Who were the other 2 sides they scored 4 against?
What region also were they from......

Once again you use NZ for your arguement(from OCEANIA) and how did the super power Italy do against them?

Sorry, you still haven't convinced me..

NZ parked the bus against Italy and scored a lucky goal..these things happen in football
however they played no football at the tournament...a World Cup finals...didnt deserve to be there

Australia were marginally better but battled away with their physical approach...when you look at the standard of the teams in Europe and South America that missed out and you see Australia, NZ and North Korea all at this tournament...you have to wonder about its credibility

You are a Kiwi basher and an all-round f*uckwit. Have you considered that Fifa's idea is to grow the game globally not just confine it to Europe and South America? How do you expect 4/5 of the World's population to stay interested fighting over 3 spots, you selfish knob? Again, you are without a doubt a f*ckwit. Please go away and die.

[dinozoff]

NZ is part of Asia :?

One scoreline that had 7 goals and that is your arguement

Where is the majority of the worlds population?

Asia and Africa is the future of world football whether you like it or not.

Poor arguement in my opinion

we've been hearing this argument for years...yet nothing has materialized as yet

NZ are terrible but they defeated Asia's 5th best team

the AFC only had 2 organised teams at this world cup and they offered no contest other than defense in the round of 16

the Socceroos were embarrassed against Germany...probably Asia's 3rd best team...should've played off against NZ for the 0.5 spot

yeah ok well why dont we make it harder to qualify for england and argentina since they had 4 goals scored against them as well

[Tony Adams]

how the hell is a team outside of south america or europe meant to win if they're not even allowed in???? korea and japan played some of the best football of the tournament, certainly better then most of the supposed best european nations and really not many huge football nations missed out (biggest nations with current decent football credentials would be croatia, russia, sweden, turkey).

lets look at other teams that arent powerhouses and or are ranked lower then australia. slovenia, slovakia, honduras, algeria,greece (probably piss off some greek fanaticals but the fact is despite having won a major tournament in recent history, the greeks arent a powerhouse)

as for the italy argument...... if italy were so great then they should have been good enough to unlock the blockaded nz defence and thrash them. but no they were terrible by there standard. and you cant argue just nz game cos all three they were terrible. as was france

if teams of this calibre cant work out how to beat a team like nz, then maybe they should look inward as too why not to mention open there eyes and realise that not as much seperates world football anymore and cindarella stories are more then possible ( the greeks winning euro '04)

[Mr Magoo]

if teams of this calibre cant work out how to beat a team like nz, then maybe they should look inward as too why not

+1, Onioneater.

[Mato]

surely onionguy is trolling, nobody can be this stupid

[metaldomes]

TOO MANY

[guti]

South America definitely deserve more.

[Mr Magoo]

surely onionguy is trolling, nobody can be this stupid

Metaldomes

[Big Mac]

North Korea, 3 straight losses including a 7-nil...4th best team in Asia
Socceroos and NZ both at the same World Cup

seriously...the world does not want to see miss matches and minnows parking the bus for 3 straight games with no ambition to win anything

international media have now begun to question Asia's quotas at World Cups in the wake of South Africa 2010

Well if these so called world superpowers cant get past "the parked bus", then they are crap too!
thats what the game is about ...tactics.
I dont care how many goals etc are scored, I'm not after fast food football.
Over the years I have enjoyed watching teams trying to dismantle Italy's defence, that what it is all about variety and tactics.
Apart from Australias poor game against Germany I think we more than aquitted ourselves against the other 2. I fact I think Ghana were the poorest in our group, yet they progressed.
Thats what group/tournament football is all about.

[Russia2O18]

wow..a lot of personal insults in this thread

thats quite immature guys

this is an issue that has been raised by much of the world's media in the wake of South Africa 2010....i dont see why we cannot have a civilized debate without resorting to such childish mudslinging

[Mr Magoo]

wow..a lot of personal insults in this thread

thats quite immature guys

this is an issue that has been raised by much of the world's media in the wake of South Africa 2010....i dont see why we cannot have a civilized debate without resorting to such childish mudslinging

You bring out the worst in me. Cut and paste some of these articles you refer to - I don't have time to google "Asia/Oceania is crap at football and should only have 2.5 World Cup spots". If you've got people upset with your topic, stand back, contemplate what a WORLD Cup should be about and stop shitting in your own nest. How can you criticise Australia and New Zealand both being at the finals - because we are neighbours or because we are both rubbish? As others with more football nouse than me have questioned, the other teams in Group F had plenty of time work out how to get around the parked bus and if NZ were so terrible why couldn't they do it?

AND

NZ parked the bus against Italy and scored a lucky goal..these things happen in football

WTF? How so? Quality delivery to the box by an unemployed ex-MLS midfielder. It's a fairy story for this country. I notice Australia has never scored a goal against Italy, much less taken a point, since the game was first invented. Civilised enough for you ?