Messi > Maradona
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Messi > Maradona
Not even up for discussion, just accept it. If you don't accept it, you are either a) old b) support Napoli or c) a+b
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Re: Messi > Maradona
how many world cups has Messi won on his own?
I'm not saying either is better. Just saying perhaps that's the way to gauge this.
Would be funny if Maradona's coaching cost them the world cup now, wouldn't it.
I'm not saying either is better. Just saying perhaps that's the way to gauge this.
Would be funny if Maradona's coaching cost them the world cup now, wouldn't it.
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0 so far, but haven't seen Messi cheat to win his honoursLitmanen wrote:how many world cups has Messi won on his own?
I'm not saying either is better. Just saying perhaps that's the way to gauge this.
Would be funny if Maradona's coaching cost them the world cup now, wouldn't it.
I wouldn't gauge it on World Cups; Club sides are better than International sides IMO
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and you are either a) whinging englishman b) bitter englishman c) clueless englishmanbrett wrote:Not even up for discussion, just accept it. If you don't accept it, you are either a) old b) support Napoli or c) a+b
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and yes i support napoli and if 28 is old, well your right.
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Re: Messi > Maradona
I love my motherland, England. I wish I could go back home, it's too hot here, the women are ugly and the beers are too fucking cold.
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you are a) wrong b) incorrect c) correct in the negative directiongetborn wrote:and you are either a) whinging englishman b) bitter englishman c) clueless englishmanbrett wrote:Not even up for discussion, just accept it. If you don't accept it, you are either a) old b) support Napoli or c) a+b
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and yes i support napoli and if 28 is old, well your right.
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Re: Messi > Maradona
look at the team around him
its not really as hard to be dominate if you have perfect passes and chips coming to you from Xavi, Iniesta etc
its not really as hard to be dominate if you have perfect passes and chips coming to you from Xavi, Iniesta etc
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xavi and iniesta didnt play today and he still scored 2 goalsChelsea4thewin wrote:look at the team around him
its not really as hard to be dominate if you have perfect passes and chips coming to you from Xavi, Iniesta etc
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Re: Messi > Maradona
Beware of (poor) imitationsbrett wrote:I love my motherland, England. I wish I could go back home, it's too hot here, the women are ugly and the beers are too bottle of shiraz cold.
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Chelsea4thewin wrote:look at the team around him
its not really as hard to be dominate if you have perfect passes and chips coming to you from Xavi, Iniesta etc
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Re: Messi > Maradona
sorry but Diego has won a world cup and was very instrumental in that 86 campaign.
Messi is on his way, but until he performs and wins a world cup, he will always be considered Maradona's under study!
Messi is on his way, but until he performs and wins a world cup, he will always be considered Maradona's under study!
Re: Messi > Maradona
ruud wrote:you are a) wrong b) incorrect c) correct in the negative directiongetborn wrote:and you are either a) whinging englishman b) bitter englishman c) clueless englishmanbrett wrote:Not even up for discussion, just accept it. If you don't accept it, you are either a) old b) support Napoli or c) a+b
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and yes i support napoli and if 28 is old, well your right.
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Re: Messi > Maradona
just becos u hav won the world cup it doesnt mean u r a better player than those who haven't
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Re: Messi > Maradona
Yes it does.ronaldo07 wrote:just becos u hav won the world cup it doesnt mean u r a better player than those who haven't
Re: Messi > Maradona
as i said before, messi hasn't done enough yet.
Things I am owed because they're too tight to pay up:
Colossus: One House
Costa: One Lunch
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Colossus: one photo and one letter from his "attorney".
Colossus: One House
Costa: One Lunch
Oh and add in
Colossus: one photo and one letter from his "attorney".
Re: Messi > Maradona
no football is about team not individual !!!LUFC wrote:Yes it does.ronaldo07 wrote:just becos u hav won the world cup it doesnt mean u r a better player than those who haven't
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The Kop wrote:what quantifies enough?
have we seen him dominate at international level yet?
Things I am owed because they're too tight to pay up:
Colossus: One House
Costa: One Lunch
Oh and add in
Colossus: one photo and one letter from his "attorney".
Colossus: One House
Costa: One Lunch
Oh and add in
Colossus: one photo and one letter from his "attorney".
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LUFC wrote:Yes it does.ronaldo07 wrote:just becos u hav won the world cup it doesnt mean u r a better player than those who haven't
george weah
ryan giggs
george best
Fantastic footballers, who never even played in a world cup finals tournament. Who's the better player, those guys or Alan Ball?
Things I am owed because they're too tight to pay up:
Colossus: One House
Costa: One Lunch
Oh and add in
Colossus: one photo and one letter from his "attorney".
Colossus: One House
Costa: One Lunch
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Colossus: one photo and one letter from his "attorney".
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Re: Messi > Maradona
Maradona's honours:
Club
Boca Juniors
Primera División: 1981
Barcelona
Copa del Rey: 1983
Copa de la Liga: 1983
Spanish Super Cup: 1983
Napoli
Serie A: 1987, 1990
Coppa Italia: 1987
UEFA Cup: 1989
Italian Super Cup: 1990
Country
Argentina
FIFA World Youth Championship: 1979
FIFA World Cup:
Winner: 1986
Runner-up: 1990
Artemio Franchi Trophy: 1993
75th anniversary FIFA Cup: 1979
Individual
Golden Ball for Best Player of the FIFA U-20 World Cup: 1979
Argentine league Top Scorer: 1979, 1980, 1981
Argentine Football Writers' Footballer of the Year: 1979, 1980, 1981, 1986
South American Footballer of the Year (El Mundo, Caracas):1979, 1986, 1989, 1990, 1992
Italian Guerin d'Oro: 1985
Argentine Sports Writers' Sportsman of the Year: 1986
Golden Ball for Best Player of the FIFA World Cup: 1986
Best Footballer in the World Onze d'Or: 1986, 1987
World Player of the Year (World Soccer Magazine): 1986
Capocannoniere (Serie A top scorer): 1987-88
Golden Ball for services to football (France Football): 1996
Argentine Sports Writers' Sportsman of the Century: 1999
"FIFA Goal of the Century" (1986 (2–1) v. England; second goal): 2002
Argentine Senate "Domingo Faustino Sarmiento" recognition for lifetime achievement:
Messi's Honours
Barcelona
La Liga: 4
2005, 2006, 2009, 2010
Copa del Rey: 1
2009
Supercopa de España: 3
2005, 2006, 2009
UEFA Champions League: 2
2006, 2009
UEFA Super Cup: 1
2009
FIFA Club World Cup: 1
2009
International
FIFA U-20 World Cup: 1
2005
Olympic Gold Medal: 1
2008
Individual
FIFA U-20 World Cup Top Goalscorer: 1
2005
FIFA U-20 World Cup Player of the Tournament: 1
2005
Copa América Young Player of the Tournament: 1
2007
U-21 European Footballer of the Year: 1
2007
FIFA World Player of the Year: 1
2009
FIFA Team of the Year: 2
2008, 2009
European Footballer of the Year: 1
2009
Onze d'Or: 1
2009
European Golden Boot: 1
2010
UEFA Champions League Player of the Year: 1
2009
UEFA Champions League Forward of the Year: 1
2009
UEFA Champions League Top Goalscorer: 1
2009
UEFA Team of the Year: 2
2008, 2009
La Liga Player of the Year: 1
2009
La Liga Top Goalscorer: 1
2010
Best Foreign Player in La Liga: 2
2007, 2009
Best Ibero-American Player in La Liga: 2
2007, 2009
FIFPro World Player of the Year: 1
2009
FIFPro Special Young Player of the Year: 2
2007, 2008
FIFPro World Young Player of the Year: 3
2006, 2007, 2008
FIFPro World XI: 3
2007, 2008, 2009
World Soccer Player of the Year: 1
2009
World Soccer Young Player of the Year: 3
2006, 2007, 2008
FIFA Club World Cup Golden Ball: 1
2009
Player of the Year of Argentina: 3
2005, 2007, 2009
Pichichi Trophy: 1
2010
Club
Boca Juniors
Primera División: 1981
Barcelona
Copa del Rey: 1983
Copa de la Liga: 1983
Spanish Super Cup: 1983
Napoli
Serie A: 1987, 1990
Coppa Italia: 1987
UEFA Cup: 1989
Italian Super Cup: 1990
Country
Argentina
FIFA World Youth Championship: 1979
FIFA World Cup:
Winner: 1986
Runner-up: 1990
Artemio Franchi Trophy: 1993
75th anniversary FIFA Cup: 1979
Individual
Golden Ball for Best Player of the FIFA U-20 World Cup: 1979
Argentine league Top Scorer: 1979, 1980, 1981
Argentine Football Writers' Footballer of the Year: 1979, 1980, 1981, 1986
South American Footballer of the Year (El Mundo, Caracas):1979, 1986, 1989, 1990, 1992
Italian Guerin d'Oro: 1985
Argentine Sports Writers' Sportsman of the Year: 1986
Golden Ball for Best Player of the FIFA World Cup: 1986
Best Footballer in the World Onze d'Or: 1986, 1987
World Player of the Year (World Soccer Magazine): 1986
Capocannoniere (Serie A top scorer): 1987-88
Golden Ball for services to football (France Football): 1996
Argentine Sports Writers' Sportsman of the Century: 1999
"FIFA Goal of the Century" (1986 (2–1) v. England; second goal): 2002
Argentine Senate "Domingo Faustino Sarmiento" recognition for lifetime achievement:
Messi's Honours
Barcelona
La Liga: 4
2005, 2006, 2009, 2010
Copa del Rey: 1
2009
Supercopa de España: 3
2005, 2006, 2009
UEFA Champions League: 2
2006, 2009
UEFA Super Cup: 1
2009
FIFA Club World Cup: 1
2009
International
FIFA U-20 World Cup: 1
2005
Olympic Gold Medal: 1
2008
Individual
FIFA U-20 World Cup Top Goalscorer: 1
2005
FIFA U-20 World Cup Player of the Tournament: 1
2005
Copa América Young Player of the Tournament: 1
2007
U-21 European Footballer of the Year: 1
2007
FIFA World Player of the Year: 1
2009
FIFA Team of the Year: 2
2008, 2009
European Footballer of the Year: 1
2009
Onze d'Or: 1
2009
European Golden Boot: 1
2010
UEFA Champions League Player of the Year: 1
2009
UEFA Champions League Forward of the Year: 1
2009
UEFA Champions League Top Goalscorer: 1
2009
UEFA Team of the Year: 2
2008, 2009
La Liga Player of the Year: 1
2009
La Liga Top Goalscorer: 1
2010
Best Foreign Player in La Liga: 2
2007, 2009
Best Ibero-American Player in La Liga: 2
2007, 2009
FIFPro World Player of the Year: 1
2009
FIFPro Special Young Player of the Year: 2
2007, 2008
FIFPro World Young Player of the Year: 3
2006, 2007, 2008
FIFPro World XI: 3
2007, 2008, 2009
World Soccer Player of the Year: 1
2009
World Soccer Young Player of the Year: 3
2006, 2007, 2008
FIFA Club World Cup Golden Ball: 1
2009
Player of the Year of Argentina: 3
2005, 2007, 2009
Pichichi Trophy: 1
2010
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Re: Messi > Maradona
ok, so take out the extra shit individual honours, and messi is cleaning up and is 1 world cup behind
(keeping in mind, he's got at least 3 more world cup's in him)
he's going to be so much better than Maradona it's scary
i definitely don't think because Messi hasn't won a world cup yet (his debut he was 18), that he isn't a better player than Diego
in 20 years time, Messi's honours list will be as long as my arm. I wish it was as long as something else
(keeping in mind, he's got at least 3 more world cup's in him)
he's going to be so much better than Maradona it's scary
i definitely don't think because Messi hasn't won a world cup yet (his debut he was 18), that he isn't a better player than Diego
in 20 years time, Messi's honours list will be as long as my arm. I wish it was as long as something else
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Re: Messi > Maradona
of course you do, because you're me and i just logged in as you to post thatronaldo07 wrote:agree with brett again
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easy, Alan BallHawkesy wrote:LUFC wrote:Yes it does.ronaldo07 wrote:just becos u hav won the world cup it doesnt mean u r a better player than those who haven't
george weah
ryan giggs
george best
Fantastic footballers, who never even played in a world cup finals tournament. Who's the better player, those guys or Alan Ball?
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so that means I'm as good as Di StefanoLUFC wrote:Yes it does.ronaldo07 wrote:just becos u hav won the world cup it doesnt mean u r a better player than those who haven't
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brett wrote:of course you do, because you're me and i just logged in as you to post thatronaldo07 wrote:agree with brett again
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What he did here, even betterpaul merson wrote:Maradona shot the paparazzi with a BB gun and got away with it, legend.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgOXc7CZxWk
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Re: Messi > Maradona
ruud wrote:brett wrote:of course you do, because you're me and i just logged in as you to post thatronaldo07 wrote:agree with brett again
The answer is 42. So now what's the question?