Why is Ogenovski not in squad?
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 1:13 pm
Thoughts?
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Re: Why is Ogenovski not in squad?
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 1:26 pm
Hey man not sure ay but maybe it has something to do with the fact that he HAS PLEDGED ALLEGIANCE TO ANOTHER COUNTRY or something ay.
Re: Why is Ogenovski not in squad?
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 1:29 pm
You will find he was still available for selection...for Australia
Re: Why is Ogenovski not in squad?
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 1:31 pm
You will find he has expressed interest in playing for Macedonia, and would have if it had not been for visa issues.
Old mate can FO
Old mate can FO
Re: Why is Ogenovski not in squad?
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 2:11 pm
Let's imagine that you were eligible to play for 2 countries. The first country tells you that you won't get picked for them, then later on the second country says we'll play you.
Obviously, playing at an international level is the pinnacle, so you decide to play for the 2nd, since the 1st doesn't want you.
Then the 2nd country can't actually pick you, due to visa trouble.
Does that mean that the 1st shouldn't pick up, if they have the ability and the desire to?
I wouldn't be surprised to see Sasa play in the first friendly after Pim leaves.
Obviously, playing at an international level is the pinnacle, so you decide to play for the 2nd, since the 1st doesn't want you.
Then the 2nd country can't actually pick you, due to visa trouble.
Does that mean that the 1st shouldn't pick up, if they have the ability and the desire to?
I wouldn't be surprised to see Sasa play in the first friendly after Pim leaves.
Re: Why is Ogenovski not in squad?
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 2:13 pm
hes too big and slow
Re: Why is Ogenovski not in squad?
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 2:57 pm
Chelsea4thewin
hes too big and slow
let me counter a stereotype with a stereotype.....
he cant be "too big and slow" playing in asia againt fleet footed strikers!!!!!
Re: Why is Ogenovski not in squad?
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 3:38 pm
coz hes capable of scoring goals...
Pim dont want that
Pim dont want that
Re: Why is Ogenovski not in squad?
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 3:38 pm
KingOfFootballNews wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised to see Sasa play in the first friendly after Pim leaves.
Re: Why is Ogenovski not in squad?
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 12:52 am
he said he wants to play for another country... once a player says that hes not gonna get a call up unless he comes out and publically says he made a mistake and has changed his mind. its a matter of principle.
Re: Why is Ogenovski not in squad?
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:40 am
he wanted to play for his country not socceroo's..........he stated that!!!!!
an its called SLARVI Macedonia ........
NOT Macedonia........GREEKS ARE Macedonia NOT FKKKKNNNN SLARVI..........
GET IT RIGHT........
an its called SLARVI Macedonia ........
NOT Macedonia........GREEKS ARE Macedonia NOT FKKKKNNNN SLARVI..........
GET IT RIGHT........
Re: Why is Ogenovski not in squad?
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:56 am
Ognenovski made up his mind to accept an invitation from Macedonia coach Srecko Katanec after being continually overlooked by Verbeek last year; when the Socceroos boss eventually made inquiries before the opening Asian Cup qualifier against Indonesia in late January the horse had bolted.
"I was never spoken about by Pim until the Indonesia game," Ognenovski said. "I'd played in the A-League for a while, a lot of people thought I was doing OK, but I was never asked to a camp, no one had contacted me.
"Macedonia had kept tabs on me, they'd watched our [Adelaide] games in the Asian Champions League and when they invited me into this camp it wasn't hard to say yes. Pim did try and get in touch at the last minute but by then my mind was made up. If he'd spoken to me even a few weeks earlier, my decision might have been different, who knows?"
This tells me he ONLY decided to pledge for Macedonia AFTER being snubbed.
"I was never spoken about by Pim until the Indonesia game," Ognenovski said. "I'd played in the A-League for a while, a lot of people thought I was doing OK, but I was never asked to a camp, no one had contacted me.
"Macedonia had kept tabs on me, they'd watched our [Adelaide] games in the Asian Champions League and when they invited me into this camp it wasn't hard to say yes. Pim did try and get in touch at the last minute but by then my mind was made up. If he'd spoken to me even a few weeks earlier, my decision might have been different, who knows?"
This tells me he ONLY decided to pledge for Macedonia AFTER being snubbed.
Re: Why is Ogenovski not in squad?
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 11:36 am
Quotes are quotes.KingOfFootballNews wrote:Ognenovski made up his mind to accept an invitation from Macedonia coach Srecko Katanec after being continually overlooked by Verbeek last year; when the Socceroos boss eventually made inquiries before the opening Asian Cup qualifier against Indonesia in late January the horse had bolted.
"I was never spoken about by Pim until the Indonesia game," Ognenovski said. "I'd played in the A-League for a while, a lot of people thought I was doing OK, but I was never asked to a camp, no one had contacted me.
"Macedonia had kept tabs on me, they'd watched our [Adelaide] games in the Asian Champions League and when they invited me into this camp it wasn't hard to say yes. Pim did try and get in touch at the last minute but by then my mind was made up. If he'd spoken to me even a few weeks earlier, my decision might have been different, who knows?"
This tells me he ONLY decided to pledge for Macedonia AFTER being snubbed.
Truths are not always truths.
Re: Why is Ogenovski not in squad?
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 12:10 pm
1. Jimara is right - we gotta get the name politically correct as it is known @ the U.N. - it's F.Y.R.O.M (Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia)
2. Jimara, FYROM isn't Sasa's country. I bet he might even have been born here. It's the place of his heritage.
3. We're now all whistling in the wind. The 23 has to come from the prelim. list of 31. It's too late. Verbeek farrkd up man-managing this debacle.
Now farrk off to the Morocco Under 20s, Mr Boring
2. Jimara, FYROM isn't Sasa's country. I bet he might even have been born here. It's the place of his heritage.
3. We're now all whistling in the wind. The 23 has to come from the prelim. list of 31. It's too late. Verbeek farrkd up man-managing this debacle.
Now farrk off to the Morocco Under 20s, Mr Boring
Re: Why is Ogenovski not in squad?
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 1:45 pm
maybe you'll get it if I write it bigger
HE DOESN'T WANT TO PLAY FOR AUSTRALIA, HE WANTS TO PLAY FOR MACEDONIA
HE DOESN'T WANT TO PLAY FOR AUSTRALIA, HE WANTS TO PLAY FOR MACEDONIA
Re: Why is Ogenovski not in squad?
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 2:01 pm
OK, OK. Stop shouting Lopperman. My ears hurt.
Anyhow, Sasa for OZ in June is too late now.
And by the way it's still F.Y.R.O.M, not just the word "Macedonia" - get it right when you next SHOUT
Anyhow, Sasa for OZ in June is too late now.
And by the way it's still F.Y.R.O.M, not just the word "Macedonia" - get it right when you next SHOUT
Re: Why is Ogenovski not in squad?
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 2:10 pm
I know it's Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, they're just twats for making their name so unnecessarily longCon wrote:OK, OK. Stop shouting Lopperman. My ears hurt.
Anyhow, Sasa for OZ in June is too late now.
And by the way it's still F.Y.R.O.M, not just the word "Macedonia" - get it right when you next SHOUT
Re: Why is Ogenovski not in squad?
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 2:20 pm
If I can't play for Australia, but Liechtenstein came calling, I'd be signing in a flash.. Plenty of Brazilians go play for other countries. Doesn't mean they don't want to play for Brazil, just that they have a better chance with Qatar etc.
Take some cricketers for example. John Davison & Dirk Nannes both went to o/s countries to get their chances. Dirk came back to Australia.
Take some cricketers for example. John Davison & Dirk Nannes both went to o/s countries to get their chances. Dirk came back to Australia.
Re: Why is Ogenovski not in squad?
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 2:23 pm
Keppler Wessels went the other way.
Re: Why is Ogenovski not in squad?
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 2:24 pm
No, I don't recall Sasa mentioning those letters you talk about.Con wrote:And by the way it's still F.Y.R.O.M, not just the word "Macedonia" - get it right when you next SHOUT
Re: Why is Ogenovski not in squad?
Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 1:20 pm
and Moore and Neil are not.Chelsea4thewin wrote:hes too big and slow
Re: Why is Ogenovski not in squad?
Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 3:26 pm
Simple reason why he is not in squad. He wasnt selected! 
Re: Why is Ogenovski not in squad?
Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 3:43 pm
he told me personally to me face when we met in the mall introducing the players,
ew quote,
I HATE GREEKS...............I DON'T LIKE YOU OR GREEKS...........
so he can get farrrrked an stick whatever he says up his koooulooo........
his a slavvv macedonian, not freaking greek macedonian.......
again i have to explain in ENGLESI.......
A REAL SNOBBY C U N T.......
ew quote,
I HATE GREEKS...............I DON'T LIKE YOU OR GREEKS...........
so he can get farrrrked an stick whatever he says up his koooulooo........
his a slavvv macedonian, not freaking greek macedonian.......
again i have to explain in ENGLESI.......
A REAL SNOBBY C U N T.......
Re: Why is Ogenovski not in squad?
Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 3:59 pm
Yet when you spoke to him you spoke to him in greek, a language he (probably) doesn't understand. :?TOPGUN-JIMMY-AUFC wrote:again i have to explain in ENGLESI.......
Re: Why is Ogenovski not in squad?
Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 5:10 pm
Get this last paragraph in a column by Sebastian Hassett in a Fairfax publication:
"Asked whether he considered Sasa Ognenovski, an overwhelming public favourite for the role (centre-back) after starring in the Korean league, Verbeek was dismissive. "No never", he said "Because we have better players".
Vindictive? Dismissive of the public's opinion? All of the above?
What do you forumite inglorious basterds think?
And ps, Jimara, don't worry about the race thing. Was Sasa taking the mickey?
I reckon his blood would run red like yours and all the rest of us (pun intended).
"Asked whether he considered Sasa Ognenovski, an overwhelming public favourite for the role (centre-back) after starring in the Korean league, Verbeek was dismissive. "No never", he said "Because we have better players".
Vindictive? Dismissive of the public's opinion? All of the above?
What do you forumite inglorious basterds think?
And ps, Jimara, don't worry about the race thing. Was Sasa taking the mickey?
I reckon his blood would run red like yours and all the rest of us (pun intended).
Re: Why is Ogenovski not in squad?
Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 12:14 am
Loppermann wrote:I know it's Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, they're just twats for making their name so unnecessarily longCon wrote:OK, OK. Stop shouting Lopperman. My ears hurt.
Anyhow, Sasa for OZ in June is too late now.
And by the way it's still F.Y.R.O.M, not just the word "Macedonia" - get it right when you next SHOUT
They didn't, they named it the Republic of Macedonia.
Re: Why is Ogenovski not in squad?
Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 2:51 am
haha at the neill comment, good enough for everton, west ham and galatasary, but not for aus ok thenOllo Ollo wrote:and Moore and Neil are not.Chelsea4thewin wrote:hes too big and slow
Re: Why is Ogenovski not in squad?
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 2:03 am
lrn 2 geographyHawkesy wrote:Loppermann wrote:I know it's Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, they're just twats for making their name so unnecessarily longCon wrote:OK, OK. Stop shouting Lopperman. My ears hurt.
Anyhow, Sasa for OZ in June is too late now.
And by the way it's still F.Y.R.O.M, not just the word "Macedonia" - get it right when you next SHOUT
They didn't, they named it the Republic of Macedonia.
Re: Why is Ogenovski not in squad?
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 2:07 am
wasn't good enough for Everton or West Ham, that's why he isn't there anymore, and Gala have definately seen better daysDOC wrote:haha at the neill comment, good enough for everton, west ham and galatasary, but not for aus ok thenOllo Ollo wrote:and Moore and Neil are not.Chelsea4thewin wrote:hes too big and slow
Re: Why is Ogenovski not in squad?
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 5:37 pm
lrn 2 geography[/quote]Loppermann wrote:Hawkesy wrote: I know it's Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, they're just twats for making their name so unnecessarily long
They didn't, they named it the Republic of Macedonia.
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