WLeague/SASI rule

[Easy Tiger]

Has anything changed with the WLeague/SASI rule or clubs still can't have more than 3 WLeague players at all? What's going to happen to those who have to leave their clubs (Metro, Fulham anyone else)? I heard Metro put in a complaint with the FFSA, what happened then?

[nanstar]

Have people kept away from this topic for political reasons?

[gubs]

I dont know why Fulham's name is in the mix here. We only have 3 W-League players so therefore arent challenging the rules

[nanstar]

so it seems only Metro is disadvantaged....

[neits/burgo/shadow]

yes, only metro

[Super_Trooper]

Robbed of the cup and now robbed of their players... what next...

Keen to see the outcome from FFA..!!!!

[hotspurhoney]

What 'outcome from FFA'? Has there been some sort of formal complaint?

[Super_Trooper]

I believe Metro have taken the decision further at their own cost..

[SAD GAL]

Hardly political.......

Its just that there has not been or never will be any leadership from FFSA. Same old same old. Same lack of clarity. Lack of direction and poorly operating womens competition. Falling apart at a fast rate of knots.

Sad but true. But not unexpected.

[gubs]

Great to see ur positive and enlightening enthusiasm back with us in 2010 sad gal!!

[pvfc]

see todays advertiser - there is an article about this and how it is stopping Ebony playing for Metro.

[John Cena]

see todays advertiser - there is an article about this and how it is stopping Ebony playing for Metro.

what a disgrace , they are making the womans league a joke

[neits/burgo/shadow]

see todays advertiser - there is an article about this and how it is stopping Ebony playing for Metro.

what a disgrace , they are making the womans league a joke

It has taken away the importance of the charity game. Very disappointing. Im over hearing about Metro being robbed. NBCF > Metro problems.

[nanstar]

I hope you're not blaming Metro for an article that the Advertiser decided to write. They're the ones who went with that angle

[M@rvin]

OK have read this thread. Can some one please explain why this ruling is a problem, does everyone want all the SASI and W-league players in one team?
What is stopping Ebony playing for another team?

[nanstar]

You may argue this point if you wish, but as a result of the training that these girls had at Metro they were W-league selected. These players are a credit to Metro and are now forced to leave. to my knowledge ebony was not a w-league player before she came to Metro, nor was GFK (unless someone wants to correct me?). some worked so hard to make the squad, played only one half or even less than that for the entirety of the w-league season, and were then ineligible to play for the club that they love, or made other players ineligible. the top sides in the premier league are now full with w-league players, so they are forced to go to a club that is not of the standard that they want to play. would they go to campbelltown that doesn't even have a coach? (last I heard).

as it stands, most clubs will be full or close to full with 3 players so this will cause a constant reshuffling in years to come if this rule stands.

So, What is the most realistic outcome of this ruling?
a) that players will become disheartened with having to leave their clubs and quit either the w-league or local league
b) players who are on the cusp of w-league selection won't bother trying out because their club has 3 max already
c) every w-league player from one season will go to one club in the following year.


FFSA doesn't exactly have a good record at implementing rule changes to further the women's game (just look at last years Reserves being dumped)

anyway, this is an open forum so i'm open for discussion.

[gubs]

I hope you're not blaming Metro for an article that the Advertiser decided to write. They're the ones who went with that angle

Not blaming Metro for writing the article. Blaming Metro for putting Ebony in the photo instead of their actual captain. What was the point in putting a player who technically isn't allowed to be playing in the team in the photo other than to tell the readers about the fact that there are lawyers involved.

The game was a charity raiser for Breast Cancer, a topic that is close to the hearts of many. The article took away from this and became a 'pity me' story about a player "robbed" of prem league football this year. Sad really

[nanstar]

and what happens if she didn't intend for the article to go that way, and for instance a casual conversation about the game ended up being reported in the article. reporters can twist things.

[all rounder]

I don't really see how FFSA can refuse to let players play at certain clubs, given that no one (that i know of) is getting paid to play. Do the W-League players even get any financial reward for playing? If not, how are they allowed to put restrictions on players like this?

[beaches]

In my opinion if the actual captain of Metro was in the photo then the article would not have taken the angle projected. One has to be suscpicous of how this angle was taken.
We continually read on this forum of how the competition needs evening up. But as soon as something is done in relation to this there are knockers and whingers.
Going to be interesting when Adelaide United pick a new squad and some players are not in it.
Yes a difficult situation if lawyers become involved, because a precedent will be set, and will open up many cans of worms in the future.
Who pays the lawyers? The players through increased fees, the officers of an incorporated body are protected.

[RedDevil69]

The reason why Ebony was featured in the Advertiser and not the captain, is the fact she is seen as a Rep for the club still.
I feel a congratulations to Ebony for letting the cat out of the bag to the Advertiser about this rule and what impact its having on its players. Why should she move to a lesser club just because of her staus bein a W League player? Fark its not even a league, just a 10 game tournament it seems.

[RedDevil69]

Who pays the lawyers? The players through increased fees, the officers of an incorporated body are protected.

From what Ive heard along the grapevine, fees were not increased but the girls from Metro each voluntarily put money in and same as the coach put a substantial amount of money in.

[gubs]

But its not just a rule for Metro....everyone is effected by it. GFK happily moved clubs without kicking up a fuss. Fulham were unable to have Emma Wirkus play for them as that is a 4th W-League player but they arent getting lawyers involved. Clubs in the future will also be affected. At the end of the day a rule is a rule. Much the same as the SASI player ruling from a few years ago it evens out the competition. Last season was Ebony's first season at the club, not as tho she had been there for 5 or 6 years. Anyways lets just hope the draw is out soon. roll on season 2010

[RedDevil69]

What a load of crock, a player should have every right to play for whichever club they choose to and providing the make the squad. Shouldnt have to be told that they cant play because of some stupid rule.

[gubs]

so if all the w-league players went to one team that would be fair? if u have an issue i suggest u take it up with the ffsa

[M@rvin]

What a load of crock, a player should have every right to play for whichever club they choose to and providing the make the squad. Shouldnt have to be told that they cant play because of some stupid rule.

So by your logic no player should have to follow a rule if it is deemed by someone to be stupid.
The whole point of this rule is to stop one team from haveing all the W-League and SASI players, why it was limited to three per club dont know.

[nanstar]

do you really think that at the end of one season all the w-league girls will get together over a cup of tea and decide to go to one club?

This rule will only limit how far players can go. Say for instance a club has a highly trained and skilled coach that delivers expert training.. and all his/her players flourish because of that, but only 3 are allowed to enter W-league level and the rest will leave the club to go somewhere else. Poor coach. A lot of hard work to see their players simply move on.

[gubs]

Im not saying that i agree with the rule. As I said other clubs will be affected next season. All im saying is that all clubs have to abide by it, its a rule

[gubs]

do you really think that at the end of one season all the w-league girls will get together over a cup of tea and decide to go to one club?

This rule will only limit how far players can go. Say for instance a club has a highly trained and skilled coach that delivers expert training.. and all his/her players flourish because of that, but only 3 are allowed to enter W-league level and the rest will leave the club to go somewhere else. Poor coach. A lot of hard work to see their players simply move on.

I believe once u reach 2 years at a club u are considered home grown, therefore cannot be asked to leave. As it was GFK and Ebony's first seasons at the club (i believe), they had no choice but to leave. The coach of Metro knew that by getting all higher profile players from other clubs that it would come back to bite them. Dont for one minute think that Ebony is the player she is today because of one season at metro...nothing to do with the coach, she has natural talent. This is where a coach has to be smart about what players he gains from other clubs. Money doesn't buy u everything

[nanstar]

do you really think that at the end of one season all the w-league girls will get together over a cup of tea and decide to go to one club?

This rule will only limit how far players can go. Say for instance a club has a highly trained and skilled coach that delivers expert training.. and all his/her players flourish because of that, but only 3 are allowed to enter W-league level and the rest will leave the club to go somewhere else. Poor coach. A lot of hard work to see their players simply move on.

I believe once u reach 2 years at a club u are considered home grown, therefore cannot be asked to leave. As it was GFK and Ebony's first seasons at the club (i believe), they had no choice but to leave. The coach of Metro knew that by getting all higher profile players from other clubs that it would come back to bite them. Dont for one minute think that Ebony is the player she is today because of one season at metro...nothing to do with the coach, she has natural talent. This is where a coach has to be smart about what players he gains from other clubs. Money doesn't buy u everything

Oh I see now we're having a nature/nurture debate.