Fed Teams State and Premier V's Amatuer Teams

[he wont get that]

I have watched a few fed games and played div 1 sun for the last 5 or so years with Lion and i think we would match and beat alot of the fed teams maybe not fitness but experience and skill.
What are your thoughts on this?

[Bomber]

I have watched a few fed games and played div 1 sun for the last 5 or so years with Lion and i think we would match and beat alot of the fed teams maybe not fitness but experience and skill.
What are your thoughts on this?

I presume you are taking the mickey (unless you mean lower ranked/bottom half state league teams).

[he wont get that]

Yes lower ranked teams in fed but a full strength downs or florina,farm and also villa on there day could match a few top teams maybe not beat but be very competitive.

[Vale_boy05]

Yes lower ranked teams in fed but a full strength downs or florina,farm and VALE also villa on there day could match a few top teams maybe not beat but be very competitive.

Thats better

[Jay Walking]

Yes lower ranked teams in fed but a full strength downs or florina,farm and VALE also villa on there day could match a few top teams maybe not beat but be very competitive.

Thats better

Probably would do well against most State League teams bar the top 3. Fitness is one of the big reasons for that.

Plently of guys who don't star in the Amateurs go to the Feds, get fit and play really well so the skill difference isn't huge.

Premier League is a different story. Some rubbish teams in the Premier League but most would beat the Amatuer Teams

[CrappyKeeper]

Adelaide Villa played a couple of friendlies against Northern Demons during last season with one win a piece.

[mail man]

Get your hand off it boys. Lets take say Croydon & pit then against Florina. At least a 5-8 goal difference that if Florina tried to play normal game & not ultra defensive. Its like comparing a Tudour style home at Kensington Park to a Housing Trust classic on Phillip Hwy. The only thing the Amateurs would win is the fights they would start. Then use the typical Amateur referee who's about 75 years old, he'll be miles behind play as usual, throw in the club linesman (oh cheating is a delicate art taught at all Amateur clubs to perfection). The above senario then leads to the classic Amateur & all too familiar situation were a player(s) threatens to kill the ref, his own players run in to move him away, a scuffle breaks out amongst their own, mean while the ref has walked off & abandoned the game.
Ah the Amateur League, free "entertainment" at its best.

[guti]

The only way to be able to truly tell would be to have an 'FA Cup' style competition, which, unfortunately, isn't likely in the foreseeable future.

[Vale_boy05]

Get your hand off it boys. Lets take say Croydon & pit then against Florina. At least a 5-8 goal difference that if Florina tried to play normal game & not ultra defensive. Its like comparing a Tudour style home at Kensington Park to a Housing Trust classic on Phillip Hwy. The only thing the Amateurs would win is the fights they would start. Then use the typical Amateur referee who's about 75 years old, he'll be miles behind play as usual, throw in the club linesman (oh cheating is a delicate art taught at all Amateur clubs to perfection). The above senario then leads to the classic Amateur & all too familiar situation were a player(s) threatens to kill the ref, his own players run in to move him away, a scuffle breaks out amongst their own, mean while the ref has walked off & abandoned the game.
Ah the Amateur League, free "entertainment" at its best.

Some one a little unhappy that they couldnt make first team in Amatues,

No need to bag the whole league mate, Think you'll find alot of refs and linesmen from fed all did there time in amatures,

And i think the top 5 sides from sunday and the top 3 or 4 from saturday could play and be very competitive in state league. (Only problem would be fitness) but if u played state league you would train harder....maybe

Ive got a few mates that play state league and would struggle to get a spot in the A 's team at any amature club.

[Tim C]

Get your hand off it boys. Lets take say Croydon & pit then against Florina. At least a 5-8 goal difference that if Florina tried to play normal game & not ultra defensive. Its like comparing a Tudour style home at Kensington Park to a Housing Trust classic on Phillip Hwy. The only thing the Amateurs would win is the fights they would start. Then use the typical Amateur referee who's about 75 years old, he'll be miles behind play as usual, throw in the club linesman (oh cheating is a delicate art taught at all Amateur clubs to perfection). The above senario then leads to the classic Amateur & all too familiar situation were a player(s) threatens to kill the ref, his own players run in to move him away, a scuffle breaks out amongst their own, mean while the ref has walked off & abandoned the game.
Ah the Amateur League, free "entertainment" at its best.

And Tool of the Week goes to........

[Jay Walking]

Get your hand off it boys. Lets take say Croydon & pit then against Florina. At least a 5-8 goal difference that if Florina tried to play normal game & not ultra defensive. Its like comparing a Tudour style home at Kensington Park to a Housing Trust classic on Phillip Hwy. The only thing the Amateurs would win is the fights they would start. Then use the typical Amateur referee who's about 75 years old, he'll be miles behind play as usual, throw in the club linesman (oh cheating is a delicate art taught at all Amateur clubs to perfection). The above senario then leads to the classic Amateur & all too familiar situation were a player(s) threatens to kill the ref, his own players run in to move him away, a scuffle breaks out amongst their own, mean while the ref has walked off & abandoned the game.
Ah the Amateur League, free "entertainment" at its best.

Its a while since you have been to an Amatuer game hey. I've been at Ingle Farm now for 8 years and not seen one fight. I went and saw Para Hills V White City play at Oakden and there was an all in brawl with players and spectators. I also recall a game in the 19's between Olympic and someone where a fight broke out, police were called and two (?) people were arrested.

To complete destroy your arguement, Croydon play in the Premier League and I think you will find that most of us believe the best Amatuer teams would only beat some of the State League teams.

Clearly your mail isn't very good.

[Jack Mehorf]

Get your hand off it boys. Lets take say Croydon & pit then against Florina. At least a 5-8 goal difference that if Florina tried to play normal game & not ultra defensive. Its like comparing a Tudour style home at Kensington Park to a Housing Trust classic on Phillip Hwy. The only thing the Amateurs would win is the fights they would start. Then use the typical Amateur referee who's about 75 years old, he'll be miles behind play as usual, throw in the club linesman (oh cheating is a delicate art taught at all Amateur clubs to perfection). The above senario then leads to the classic Amateur & all too familiar situation were a player(s) threatens to kill the ref, his own players run in to move him away, a scuffle breaks out amongst their own, mean while the ref has walked off & abandoned the game.
Ah the Amateur League, free "entertainment" at its best.

Its a while since you have been to an Amatuer game hey. I've been at Ingle Farm now for 8 years and not seen one fight. I went and saw Para Hills V White City play at Oakden and there was an all in brawl with players and spectators. I also recall a game in the 19's between Olympic and someone where a fight broke out, police were called and two (?) people were arrested.

To complete destroy your arguement, Croydon play in the Premier League and I think you will find that most of us believe the best Amatuer teams would only beat some of the State League teams.

Clearly your mail isn't very good.

Don't waste your time with it Jay.

[Bomber]

Unfortunately mailman pretty much is a shit stirrer and has a habit of sending junk mail to the wrong addresses. I wish he didnt use Croydon in his example, however the Olympic 19s game referred was against Croydon - Olympic started it, got dealt with accordingly and that was that. Having said that, I have seen much higher rates of punch-ups or "spot fires" in amateurs though. I often go to both fed and amateur games and whilst the fed level is much higher, the link between the top amateur sides and lower State League sides would be very comparable.

[robinfriday10]

[quote="Jay Walking"]Probably would do well against most State League teams bar the top 3. Fitness is one of the big reasons for that.


Premier League is a different story. Some rubbish teams in the Premier League but most would beat the Amatuer Teams

as a frequenter of both
would def agree jay...

[Knight7]

Ego's are far, far bigger in the State League apart from that not much difference

[Jay Walking]

Unfortunately mailman pretty much is a cabernet stirrer and has a habit of sending junk mail to the wrong addresses. I wish he didnt use Croydon in his example, however the Olympic 19s game referred was against Croydon - Olympic started it, got dealt with accordingly and that was that. Having said that, I have seen much higher rates of punch-ups or "spot fires" in amateurs though. I often go to both fed and amateur games and whilst the fed level is much higher, the link between the top amateur sides and lower State League sides would be very comparable.

Thats fair point, boiling point gets reached a bit quicker. I guess with the crowd so close and no fences to jump, it can get a bit fired up.

[Randoman]

Agreed with Jay, pretty much spot on.

[mail man]

Well obviously i am generalizing. I go watch a different Amateur team play each Sunday. I even went to Ingle Farm last season. Yes the top Div One clubs would smack Gawler but so would my Grandma & her friends. Going to Div 3 & 4 games is were you always get that extra action, call them spot fires, dummy spits, fights.
Long live the Amateur League.

[Jay Walking]

Why is everyone agreeing with me? I'm not use to it!

[The General]

When amatuer teams were allowed to enter the Federation Cup,i remember in 1985 ? In a first round clash,Brahma Lodge defeated Cumberland United (finalist year before) in extra time,following round played WA Hellas at Hindmarsh. Brahma Lodge had to play their amatuer league game two days prior to the game at Hindmarsh,in a top of the table clash in division 3 (SAASL ).
In their 2nd round Cup Game, Brahma Lodge could have been 1-0 up from kick-off ( one on one with the keeper ),HT 1-0 to WA Hellas.
Everyone in Hindmarsh could hear the WA coaches half time talk (spray) ,needless to say they overan their opponents,with a final score, WA Hellas 9 Brahma lodge 0.
My whole point is, with cup games, it is all on the day,anything can happen,at all levels - I had never heard of Senegal,prior their shock 2002 world cup win over the holders France.
But to do it over a league season, week in and week out is much tougher.