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I popped round the corner to watch this Sunday Division 2 encounter and hesitated writing my thoughts about the game.
Last year I witnessed the same fixture toward the end of the season ended with the same score 2-3 to Raptors, thanks to a non-goal that was awarded after passing through a hole in the side netting. Also last season both teams had a sniff at promotion but missed out in end.
As a neutral spectator I thought the attitude and behaviour of one Raptors player influenced the atmosphere of the game.
Apart from that, the game was hard fought with Southern Knights, kicking into a fairly strong Easterly wind, going a goal ahead after about 10 minutes and stretched the lead to 2-0 when a bouncing ball was misjudged by Raptors keeper.
Southern Knights deservedly lost a player for a second yellow offence but it stayed 2-0 to half time and the Referee was questioned for quite a while by Raptors Club linesman about some of his decisions.
After half time Raptors began to string together more passes and utilized the extra man to break down Knights defence and scored 2 reasonable quick goals to level the score at 2-2.
Knights had their opportunities to regain the lead and very rarely looked to be a man down, but Raptors pounced on the counter attack and took the lead 2-3.
I thought neither team deserved to come away from the game without a point and a draw would have been a fair result.
Although there was a little aggro between the two sides it was good to see a few of the Raptors pop into the Clubrooms for a drink and a bit of a chat.
I somehow think that Knights and Raptors will be up against each other again next season ?

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The game was played in cold but fairly good conditions considering the rainfall but the stong breeze had many Raptors overkicking the ball.

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Both Raptors and Knights showed some good touches and build ups, but the final ball was letting then down.

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Southern Knights hit the front quite early with a break away goal !

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Things are not going to plan for Raptors as they concede a "soft" goal ...2-0 to Knights.

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Questioning looks all around, is nothing sacred ? Then it's back into as Raptors try to reply !

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The referee tries to hypnotize Knights and Raptors with his ball balancing skills !

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It was end to end football for much of the early part of the game !

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A golden opportunity to pull one back goes begging for Raptors.

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Southern Knights also fail to grab their opportunities.

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Words start to be exchanged due the the strong tackling and hard fought nature of the encounter.

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Questions are asked of the referee as number 10 checks that his deodorant is still working !

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There were strong contests all over the park.

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After being reduced to 10 men Knights held on well and fought hard to maintain their lead !

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Raptors started to pressure Knights goal but some good keeping kept them at bay !

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The two club linesmen compare notes at half time and agree to disagree !

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Raptors hit back quickly after the half time interval and Knights player watch on as the ball hits the back of the net 2-1

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Unlike this picture, Raptors seem more focussed after half time (and a man up) and draw level 2-2 !

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I'm not certain but I believe this is goal number 3 on its way and Raptors take the lead 2-3 !

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Southern Knights feel a bit dirty that they didn't get a point out of the game ?
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I wasn't going to comment on this one, we lost and you can often be accused of sour grapes afterwards. I have played against Raptors almost every year for the last 11 years and know and respect the majority of the people down there. I was however very suprised by the attitude on Sunday the guy that was sent off is new (is he also the player coach?) and I believe this wasn't the first time he was sent off. I was suprised the referee took so long, yes he was abusive towards our linesman (in one instance he was about 4 foot off side and accused our linesman of cheating!) - also when he scored he ran over to our crowd and gave us the finger then started swearing etc not cool - he was lucky that once he came off and started again that older, cooler heads prevailed.

I expect the Raptors boys will probably jump to his defence on here but privately you must have a word and sort him out!
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Knight7 wrote:I wasn't going to comment on this one, we lost and you can often be accused of sour grapes afterwards. I have played against Raptors almost every year for the last 11 years and know and respect the majority of the people down there. I was however very suprised by the attitude on Sunday the guy that was sent off is new (is he also the player coach?) and I believe this wasn't the first time he was sent off. I was suprised the referee took so long, yes he was abusive towards our linesman (in one instance he was about 4 foot off side and accused our linesman of cheating!) - also when he scored he ran over to our crowd and gave us the finger then started swearing etc not cool - he was lucky that once he came off and started again that older, cooler heads prevailed.

I expect the Raptors boys will probably jump to his defence on here but privately you must have a word and sort him out!
He was sent off at Fulham for dissent.
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Had that ref. couple of weeks ago, thought he was quite good and fair.
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just a few points swannsong the score was 2-1 at half time but the reason the 18 got sent off was cause the lineman got it so wrong,,,,the initial yellow card should off gone to the number 8 ,,,not the number 18 ,,,,which resulted in the 18 getting sent off in the second half deservely so,,the referee was very good,,the best we had all year but on the second goal he overuled the linesman which resulted in the 2nd goal to the knights,,,even though the sk player recieved the ball on the edge off the 6 yard square and the referee was standings 2 meters from the centre circle,,,his comment was u are here to help me,,,well the lineman was helping him in the offside decisions,,and finally the raptors aim at the start off the season was not to get relegated,,and it still remains that,,getting promoted wasnt and isnt a priority ATM
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btw richard it will be ,but also i think some off matty and the big guys in defence tacles where carear ending tackles,,,but we can harp on decent if u really want
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colon clenser wrote:btw richard it will be ,but also i think some off matty and the big guys in defence tacles where carear ending tackles,,,but we can harp on decent if u really want

Jimmy, glad your going to talk to him, will ask our players not to tackle so hard next time we play you - looks like a good result for all! :wink:
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swannsong

OK, I got the half time score wrong, as I said I was a neutral observer at the game, I didn't have a notebook and I guess i was distracted by no. 18's constant mouthing off and abuse directed at the SK linesman and supporters.
It was also obvious to me that Raptors linesman (was it you ?) seemed quite involved in the game to the point of almost coaching and believe the referee explained his decision to him so why bring it on here !
Everything else is just opinion and not even worth debating.



whats that about opnions?????


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Southern Knights (2) ISC Raptors (3)

I popped round the corner to watch this Sunday Division 2 encounter and hesitated writing my thoughts about the game.
Last year I witnessed the same fixture toward the end of the season ended with the same score 2-3 to Raptors, thanks to a non-goal that was awarded after passing through a hole in the side netting. Also last season both teams had a sniff at promotion but missed out in end.
As a neutral spectator I thought the attitude and behaviour of one Raptors player (no 18 ) influenced the atmosphere of the game. Accusing the Knights Club linesman of cheating, gesturing and swearing at spectators and the linesman on several occasions, and seemingly intimidating the Referee. He was eventually sent off midway through the second half for a verbal outburst. Unfortunately this "bad egg" in the Raptors nest continued on after his dismissal and a situation was calmed before it erupted.
Apart from that, the game was hard fought with Southern Knights, kicking into a fairly strong Easterly wind, going a goal ahead after about 10 minutes and stretched the lead to 2-0 when a bouncing ball was misjudged by Raptors keeper.
Southern Knights lost a player for a second yellow offence but it stayed 2-0 to half time and the Referee was questioned for quite a while by Raptors Club linesman about some of his decisions.
After half time Raptors began to string together more passes and utilized the extra man to break down Knights defence and scored 2 reasonable quick goals to level the score at 2-2.
Knights had their opportunities to regain the lead and very rarely looked to be a man down, but Raptors pounced on the counter attack and took the lead 2-3.
I thought neither team deserved to come away from the game without a point and a draw would have been a fair result.
Although there was a little aggro between the two sides it was good to see a few of the Raptors pop into the Clubrooms for a drink and a bit of a chat.
I somehow think that Knights and Raptors will be up against each other again next season ?


cant comment on incidents as i wasnt there but i can spot double standards!!
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im not defending anyone's behaviour nor condoning if accurate.

however, i was merely pointing out that your review/summary was filled with OPINIONS!!!

thats all
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only after you'd expressed yours!!! :wink:

mate, im not here to defend nor attack. youre good value, i'll leave it at that.

but like knight7 said, weve played against each other for a very long time and have enjoyed both the physical battles and banter.

@ knight7.... you have to admit, maxwell's spray directed at your committee in the middle of the pitch after last years game has become legendary!!!! :D :D
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swannsong wrote:post # 4691
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May I ask... what the ??
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twisted300 wrote:
swannsong wrote:post # 4691
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May I ask... what the ??
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Why not ?

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btw nice pics ,,,but can u get a smaller lens,,makes me look fat,,,,and do u do weddings
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You name it, he does it, eve fathers day.
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i thought the game was played mostly in the right spirits

the refereeing was probably the best all season.
Its always good going up against SK - they always give us a good hard match

we could go on about certain decisions - they happen every week in amateurs. am not gonna complain about decisions gone against us, cause SK had some of the same go against them

and sure some of the behaviour of certain players in our side wasnt what youd call in the spirit of 'fair play', but a few SK boys were going in pretty hard with those tackles.

Actually i take that back, going in hard isnt an issue, but going in dirty is.
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All this talk about the 18, isn't he that hot headed coach?


maxin in the shade wrote:i thought the game was played mostly in the right spirits

the refereeing was probably the best all season.
Its always good going up against SK - they always give us a good hard match

we could go on about certain decisions - they happen every week in amateurs. am not gonna complain about decisions gone against us, cause SK had some of the same go against them

and sure some of the behaviour of certain players in our side wasnt what youd call in the spirit of 'fair play', but a few SK boys were going in pretty hard with those tackles.

Actually i take that back, going in hard isnt an issue, but going in dirty is.
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im glad Raptors won

i think they are Greek so im for them even tho Pontian Eagles is my team
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Muslimovic wrote:im glad Raptors won

i think they are Greek so im for them even tho Pontian Eagles is my team
So what is a Pontian Eagles' Raptors sympathiser doing in Sweden?
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your in Norway???

oh Pontian Eagles are well known in Greece thanks to Apollon Kalamaria
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multicultural mate,,
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Muslimovic wrote:your in Norway???

oh Pontian Eagles are well known in Greece thanks to Apollon Kalamaria
I have some relationship to it. I just wondered why you chose Sweden.
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Fat Mat, boy has he put some weight on. No wonder he is at the back now.

His face must have been stung by a bee as well.
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Swanny, im actually dissapointed with your asessment of the game as a whole. Would of thought that as a neutral, as you claimed to be, you wouldnt be so one sided.

Is there a need to harp on No.18??? The game that i watched, i saw 18 as a passionate player who displayed some pretty good skills. Not once did have a bad word to say to any of his opposition players on the park and maybe you should ask the guys defending him, since they were next to him all game. Not once did he lay a bad challenge and i think of all the players on both sides was the only one that didnt give a free kick away for foul play but no mention of this by you!!!
He scored a wonderful goal to level at 2-2, but once again, no mention of this by you.

According to you, he abused the SK linesman on several occassions??? Yes, i will agree with you on that, and of the 4 times he was judged to be offside, only the first one was he offside, so i guess his frustration with that linesman was obvious, and the fact he doesnt like people that cheat probably had something to do with his reactions towards the SKs club official.

You also go on to say that his behaviour towards the SK crowd was disgusting. From where i was standing, he never verbally opened his mouth to them, and only made 2 gestures at them. Once when he scored the equalizer and then the 2nd time when Raptors took the lead which were early to mid 2nd half. What you havent mentioned is the fact that the SK crowd were giving him shiiiite from 10 minutes into the 1st half and continued to giving him shiiiite right up until he was sent off. He took it pretty well i thought, and in my opinion gave them those 2 gestures when indeed they were at their quietest and most vulnerable, that is when he scored the equalizer, and indeed when they went 3-2 up, perfect timing i would of thought and something any player in his position would of done given the amount of flak he copped from them.

On the last point, you say he continued to abuse people after he was sent off??? If thats not further from the truth, then ill never post on this site again. Again, your views of this are blurred by maybe your camera lens, or maybe that you are pro SK even though you state you are a neutral. When he was sent off, he walked off the park and then was verbally abused by a male who went out of his way to walk out of the Panthers clubrooms and start on him. 18 then reacted as anyone would and gave him a serving right back. The only reason those "cool heads" as you mention didnt start anything is because they knew who started it, and it was one of their own. Of course, you wouldnt know that swanny because you were too busy taking snap shots and hopefully from a camera with a Carl Zeiss lens :wink:

The game itself was end to end action, and i agree a draw would of been a fair result. Some rough challenges from the SK players and some verbal abuse from the Raptors players made for an entertaining day at O'Sullivans beach. The crowd had the last laugh with No18 but his Raptors team had the final laugh of the day. That would of been a fairer way to describe the game swanny :D
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Bravo Colossus. I much prefer you when you're talking about the game, not my missus.

BUT dont forget to mention this fact: the Southern Knights' player who got sent off was given a red for Studding me in the back after he hacked me to the ground. Deliberate malicious play. Then he felt as though he had to wait for me at half time as i was walking to the changeroom and threaten to "bash me" after the game for 'cutting his lip'. What a little pussy. It's a contact sport. I've had a million cut lips. No need to step on someones back for an accidental bit of lip cuttage, you wank-stain.

On top of that, after the game i went into the clubrooms to buy a "victory hotdog." I saw him at the bar, so i went up to him, said 'no hard feelings' and offered to shake his hand. being true to form, he told me he was gonna punch me (again - full of material this guy). Guess some people are just stupid. Could someone from southern knights do me a favour and read this out to the player involved as i'm 100% certain he wouldn't have passed the 2nd grade and therefore wouldn't be at the appropriate literacy level to understand and comprehend this combination of letters and punctuation strung together known as text.

The victory against SK was the sweetest i've had all year thanks to stereotype racist morons like the player mentioned above. Even better than the 7-0 drubbing we gave them a few months ago.

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Wow seriously boys, you really do have a complex!

Just a few points

1) I wouldn't know Swanny if he walked past me in the street, he has reported on a few of our games this year and not always does he say we deserved to win etc - he in my opinion is a neutral!
2) Sacred -june (Love Child) you mention our players bad tackles etc you briefly mention the fact you split his lip - you elbowed him in the face! We give it and we take it and we haven't gone on about this incident !Your post is unbelievably cowardly - he was sent off (rightfully) for retaliation and probably cost us the game, so wasn't overjoyed at the end of the game - especially since you (by your own admission) split his lip so get over the fact he wasn't your friend at the end of the game. Also you play the racist card????? Let's not start this debate, firstly nothing has been spoken of by anyone and secondly it works both ways - him studding you is foolish but racist???
3) The Raptors boys have all said the referee was excellent but also ellude to dirty tackles - we were hard but not dirty (apart from the needless send off) if dirty a good referee would have taken more action would he not?
4) Number 18 on more than one occassion swore at our crowd and gestured - his actions well and truly overshadowed a good performance by him

Guys this year more than any you have complained about a number of games, Vista, Croatia etc it's not doing you any favours
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Knight7 wrote:2) Sacred -june (Love Child) you mention our players bad tackles etc you briefly mention the fact you split his lip - you elbowed him in the face! We give it and we take it and we haven't gone on about this incident !Your post is unbelievably cowardly - he was sent off (rightfully) for retaliation and probably cost us the game, so wasn't overjoyed at the end of the game - especially since you (by your own admission) split his lip so get over the fact he wasn't your friend at the end of the game. Also you play the racist card????? Let's not start this debate, firstly nothing has been spoken of by anyone and secondly it works both ways - him studding you is foolish but racist???
just quickly in reply Knight7, RE splitting his lip, i may have accidentally elbowed him in the face, however, kicking me in the back when i'm on the ground is the cowardly way to go about telling me that. if he had let me get up i would have appologised for my mistake. my point is that in this game little accidents happen all the time, no need to kick someone about it. I coped plenty of tough tackles and elbows to the face during that game, nearly off were not deliberate (i'm half the size of SK's #6 in the middle of the park), but you just get on with it - IT'S PART OF THE GAME.
To tell you the truth, i didnt even realise i elbowed him until he told me at half time. so, at the end of the game, i went out of my way to apologise. i said sorry about the lip because it was purely an accident and he still couldnt get over it. meanwhile, he should be apologising to me for deliberately attacking me (studs in the back - real big man). that's why he's the coward

RE him being a racist, at half time he called me and others in my team "f..ckin wog this and wog that"

WOG = RACIST.

No need. And i've got nil time for racists
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