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...give a random player a yellow card on the match report thingy when they stuff up and can't match the yellow to the player who deserved it? a mate of mine has been suspended even though he can only recall recieving two yellows (both soft as well) all season. Is usually a well behaved gentleman on the pitch to boot.
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Personally speaking, everytime I have booked someone I have known the number and marked it down. You guys are normally (well the one time I have reffed you) pretty good with your paperwork but my first suggestion would be to check your team sheets.
Perhaps, the wrong number was marked against the wrong player.
Perhaps, the wrong number was marked against the wrong player.
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Colossus: one photo and one letter from his "attorney".
Colossus: One House
Costa: One Lunch
Oh and add in
Colossus: one photo and one letter from his "attorney".
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They usually ask the player to turn around so they can get the number so I very much doubt they do it randomly, but it's possible they ticked the wrong box (much like a typing error). I've only reffereed in an official capacity in Japan so I don't know how it's done here, but do both clubs get a copy of the match report after the game?
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what a strange and unfortunate thing to have happened to you ChickenWing.
Have you stopped to consider the fact that sabotage within the highest ranks of the club could be at play? I mean, you're Italian... and the club you represent so gallantly is predominantly Greek, is it not? And you're blaming the referees? YOU'RE BLAMING The Beautiful Games' Knight's in Shining Armour before confrunting various members of the comittee?
Shame on you sir.
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Have you stopped to consider the fact that sabotage within the highest ranks of the club could be at play? I mean, you're Italian... and the club you represent so gallantly is predominantly Greek, is it not? And you're blaming the referees? YOU'RE BLAMING The Beautiful Games' Knight's in Shining Armour before confrunting various members of the comittee?
Shame on you sir.
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Perhaps Sacred.sacred_june (GrooveChild) wrote:what a strange and unfortunate thing to have happened to you ChickenWing.
Have you stopped to consider the fact that sabotage within the highest ranks of the club could be at play? I mean, you're Italian... and the club you represent so gallantly is predominantly Greek, is it not? And you're blaming the referees? YOU'RE BLAMING The Beautiful Games' Knight's in Shining Armour before confrunting various members of the comittee?
Shame on you sir.
Remember what our Italian parents taught us at such a tender age: "When trapped in a room with a Greek and a snake, keep your eye on the Greek"
But if this is the case, why then is it you yourself has not been suspended yet
i think you will also find any player with an Italian background at the club in question is also ineligible to win the B&F.
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Popov vromgolarov wrote:Perhaps Sacred.sacred_june (GrooveChild) wrote:what a strange and unfortunate thing to have happened to you ChickenWing.
Have you stopped to consider the fact that sabotage within the highest ranks of the club could be at play? I mean, you're Italian... and the club you represent so gallantly is predominantly Greek, is it not? And you're blaming the referees? YOU'RE BLAMING The Beautiful Games' Knight's in Shining Armour before confrunting various members of the comittee?
Shame on you sir.
Remember what our Italian parents taught us at such a tender age: "When trapped in a room with a Greek and a snake, keep your eye on the Greek"
But if this is the case, why then is it you yourself has not been suspended yet
i think you will also find any player with an Italian background at the club in question is also ineligible to win the B&F.
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Pretty sure i'm next....Even though i embrace the Greek culture much more than ChickenWing.Popov vromgolarov wrote:Perhaps Sacred.sacred_june (GrooveChild) wrote:what a strange and unfortunate thing to have happened to you ChickenWing.
Have you stopped to consider the fact that sabotage within the highest ranks of the club could be at play? I mean, you're Italian... and the club you represent so gallantly is predominantly Greek, is it not? And you're blaming the referees? YOU'RE BLAMING The Beautiful Games' Knight's in Shining Armour before confrunting various members of the comittee?
Shame on you sir.
Remember what our Italian parents taught us at such a tender age: "When trapped in a room with a Greek and a snake, keep your eye on the Greek"
But if this is the case, why then is it you yourself has not been suspended yet
i think you will also find any player with an Italian background at the club in question is also ineligible to win the B&F.
Since i joined the club, my match time spent diving has dropped 50% (unlike other Eye-Ties at the Club)
ChickenWing took a dive last night at training! He was galloping off with the ball after successfully winning the ball in a clean tackle when he fell to the floor. He says he tripped but i know him better than that. He doesn't "Trip-over"
PS. With my "performances" this year, i've been ineligible to win B&F for a while now...
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This has definitely happened to me a few years back when I was mistaken for a red card and copped the suspension. There is nothing you can really do. The same things happen for goals, time and time again we see goals awarded to wrong players. I have noticed this year the ref actually outlines the goals scorers and any cards before you sign the match card. It is at that point that any discrepancies are to be pointed out too him.
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That card you've issue to the no. 7 was actually the no. 7 of our opponentsShaken Not Stirred wrote:It is at that point that any discrepancies are to be pointed out too him.
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This has definitely happened to me a few years back when I was mistaken for a red card and copped the suspension. There is nothing you can really do. The same things happen for goals, time and time again we see goals awarded to wrong players. I have noticed this year the ref actually outlines the goals scorers and any cards before you sign the match card. It is at that point that any discrepancies are to be pointed out too him.
you mean, im not on 15 goals for the year so far?..........
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You just maye have been credited with this oneMegaBonus wrote: you mean, im not on 15 goals for the year so far?..........
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according the the website, no, you're NOt on 15 goals for the year.MegaBonus wrote:you mean, im not on 15 goals for the year so far?..........
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scared_june, I wasn't bringing this up cos it happened to me, I did cos it happened to my mate... I would never be so self-serving...
the only person taking this seriously is Shaken not Stirred and I applaude him for that... it is a serious issue that once again brings into question wtf are referees doing?!?! how hard is it to book a player on the spot and write down the correct number?!?!
and finally, I couldn't win a B&F at any club... best & FAIREST... lol
the only person taking this seriously is Shaken not Stirred and I applaude him for that... it is a serious issue that once again brings into question wtf are referees doing?!?! how hard is it to book a player on the spot and write down the correct number?!?!
and finally, I couldn't win a B&F at any club... best & FAIREST... lol
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both clubs get a copy of their own and their oppositions teams sheets, with goals and booking etc.. marked on it.Bodø Glimt wrote:but do both clubs get a copy of the match report after the game?
Things I am owed because they're too tight to pay up:
Colossus: One House
Costa: One Lunch
Oh and add in
Colossus: one photo and one letter from his "attorney".
Colossus: One House
Costa: One Lunch
Oh and add in
Colossus: one photo and one letter from his "attorney".
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when you're playing up front it always a good idea to turn your back so the referee can see your number, regardless of whether you scored it or not
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pires7 wrote:when you're playing up front it always a good idea to turn your back so the referee can see your number, regardless of whether you scored it or not
I crossed a ball last year, that the defender headed into his own net. I ran past the ref and showed him my number and he gave it to me. Even the coach questioned it and the ref replied' "he was having a good game, i thought he deserved it"
Things I am owed because they're too tight to pay up:
Colossus: One House
Costa: One Lunch
Oh and add in
Colossus: one photo and one letter from his "attorney".
Colossus: One House
Costa: One Lunch
Oh and add in
Colossus: one photo and one letter from his "attorney".
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I once offered the referee my number but he declined he said.pires7 wrote:when you're playing up front it always a good idea to turn your back so the referee can see your number, regardless of whether you scored it or not
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When I played indoor football in Perth the scoresheets didn't allow for own goals so the referees would award it to the nearest player to the ball at the time.Hawkesy wrote:pires7 wrote:when you're playing up front it always a good idea to turn your back so the referee can see your number, regardless of whether you scored it or not
I crossed a ball last year, that the defender headed into his own net. I ran past the ref and showed him my number and he gave it to me. Even the coach questioned it and the ref replied' "he was having a good game, i thought he deserved it"
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We had a similar situation when i was playing indoor in QLD the games had scorers (somewhat like netball) and the scoresheets provided they had numbers for each player however there was no number 1 the numbers were 1-9 so the keeper either couldnt score or had to wear a number from 1-9
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I played at a place in brisbanes Metro area at BIS (Brisbane indoor sports centre) as i lived in the outer suburbs in a place called Cannon Hill BIS was only up the road and on the way home from work so it made it easy would love to know if there are any indoor places around adelaide of that quality never looked into it after moving
Keepers number traditionally was number 1 so our keeper assumed that was okay until he scored and it was marked down Indoor was quite a big deal up there but it doesnt seem to be here how come
Keepers number traditionally was number 1 so our keeper assumed that was okay until he scored and it was marked down Indoor was quite a big deal up there but it doesnt seem to be here how come
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I used to live in Carina and worked at the bus depot there. I don't know of the indoor centres there but I often went to watch various clubs play (eg. Bayside, Mooroondu, Capalaba etc.)
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No, they don't or if some do, they shouldn't.LFTWNG11 wrote:...give a random player a yellow card on the match report thingy when they stuff up and can't match the yellow to the player who deserved it?
Your friend is unlucky and it should not have happened but to imply that it was due to a "stuff up" by the Referee is a bit unfair as well. Club managers are provided the team sheets after the game for their signature with the player passes, and they have a responsibility to validate what has been recorded on the team sheet. Once signed, it is a true and accurate record and they get a copy of both team sheets. If your friend or his club can confirm who should have received the caution on the day then I am sure that if you state your case to the SAASL that they would be receptive. Despite the perception of some, in my experience as a Club manager they have been a reasonable bunch of people.LFTWNG11 wrote:a mate of mine has been suspended even though he can only recall recieving two yellows (both soft as well) all season. Is usually a well behaved gentleman on the pitch to boot.
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That answers my question. If the club has signed it surely they would know who has what cards and known who was close to a suspension.Rob Lozza wrote:Your friend is unlucky and it should not have happened but to imply that it was due to a "stuff up" by the Referee is a bit unfair as well. Club managers are provided the team sheets after the game for their signature with the player passes, and they have a responsibility to validate what has been recorded on the team sheet. Once signed, it is a true and accurate record and they get a copy of both team sheets. If your friend or his club can confirm who should have received the caution on the day then I am sure that if you state your case to the SAASL that they would be receptive. Despite the perception of some, in my experience as a Club manager they have been a reasonable bunch of people.