TTG Coaching Situation

[silver fox]

I am disgusted with the so called coach that takes a job promising the earth building the boys hopes up.....then quits two weeks before the start of the season. What does this say about him? I know that TTG have had problems with coaches in the last few years but as far as i know they have let the coach finish their time. This act leaves the new coach with no time to build their own team, TTG gave Claudio the job knowing that they would take a lot of sh-t by letting Brad go but the fact is that the team wanted a change. I noticed that Brad was there last night....Did he know something? because the thing that disgusts me the most is the fact that I was told as the game kicked off that Claudio was going to jack at the end of the game by some one that is involved with Modbury...(The Claudio's other team). As for the game The gully held their own against a team that finished in the top 4 of div1 last season I believe that they have the makings of a good team and have got plenty for the right coach to work with.....What do you think? would you trust this man with your team?

[Robbo]

Committee's fault for giving him the job, you already posted here he was still involved at Modbury, sounded suss at the time and I'm not surprised.. go figure

[swannsong]

If the boys have been training well a new coach won't cause too much worry unless the process takes a long time.
It will make players train harder because they will have someone new assessing their potentials.
Just make the process quick I'm sure there would be excellent coaches out there still without a gig !

[silver fox]

I think your missing my point. I can see that the people that run TTG cocked up in the first place (and I know they now know) but you can only take people on what they say. You have some one that looks as if they can take the club to the next level, you know by not renewing your old coaches contract after a good season, for what ever reason you are going to get crap from all sides.
YES your new coach had a commitment to another club where he will never be number one.
His idea was that he was going to improve his reputation with TTG (do you think hes done that?). Theres also the point that it was known by club outsiders he was going to f...off before the event. As far as im concurned it stinks........

[Lilly Whites]

How about a coach who is used to working with players who turn up for training...? Amateur is Amateur, players only turn up when there is a game on and are not interested in learning or getting better.... Claudio will be judged on what he can develop at Modbury with young players not with TTG and the idiots who just wanna play Sunday Arvo...

[MegaBonus]

[quote]silver fox Post subject: ttg and the coach without ballsPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:46 pm

but the fact is that the team wanted a change.[/quote]


whenever players decide coaching issues..... its the committe that doesnt have the balls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[swannsong]

I think your missing my point. I can see that the people that run TTG cocked up in the first place (and I know they now know) but you can only take people on what they say. You have some one that looks as if they can take the club to the next level, you know by not renewing your old coaches contract after a good season, for what ever reason you are going to get crap from all sides.
YES your new coach had a commitment to another club where he will never be number one.
His idea was that he was going to improve his reputation with TTG (do you think hes done that?). Theres also the point that it was known by club outsiders he was going to f...off before the event. As far as im concurned it stinks........

Didn't miss your point, shit happens, move on.
I just believe you / Gully need to think positive, for the sake of the club.

[kenny]

you made your bed you gotta lie in it... Paul Weller

[pork belly]

I was at the Gully game on friday night and thought WHY would a coach leave the set up the Gully have got. Great lighting, great playing surface, a choice of probably 3 different grounds to play on and clubrooms that are up for renovation. I know the club has tarnished its reputation on keeping coaches over the past seasons but I am sure there are reasons, right or wrong. I hope the Gully dont pick the next coach that comes along but take their time and pick someone, and be backed by the committee, that will stay to bring some stability to the club, how long has Barry Cook been with Gardens. The Silver fox is right the recent coach just upt and left taking his balls home

[bovva boy]

And what have Parafield won? or done? made finals????
Gully simply lost a good coach because they can not get players to turn up for training.... Same as most amateur clubs... And when players were told they would not play if they didnt turn up for training, the revolt began... Brad French was shafted by his players and now no support for new coach by players. Just maybe the players need to have a good look at themselves and the destruction they are bringing on the club..... IMPLODING.

[pork belly]

I was using Parafield as an example, maybe I should have used Man U instead but they annoy me. And yes maybe the players and I believe only a select few do have too much say with what happens. I understand that getting players out to train is difficult, being a past player and coach but I cant except that this guy just left because he cant get enough guys out to training. I was told first hand from a Modbury coach that he would pull the pin after the game. Could he have been pressured from Modbury? left because of poor attendance? I think not

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silver fox Post subject: ttg and the coach without ballsPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:46 pm

but the fact is that the team wanted a change.[/quote]


whenever players decide coaching issues..... its the committe that doesnt have the balls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[/quote]
mega bonus are you suggesting it was the players that ousted jimmy?

[Lilly Whites]

Which Modbury coach told you that????? Jimmy actually told committee during the week that he would be stepping down. What excuse he gave i do not know but i know for a FACT that there was no pressure whats so ever from Modbury.

[pork belly]

Which committee. Hpoefully he had the balls to let the Gully knowoh thats right he took them home

[Lilly Whites]

your last post makes no sense? In your previous post you said a Modbury coach told you Jim would quit.... Who was the coach?
I don't think you have any idea to be honest

[Lilly Whites]

I try to spell it out for you..... Jim told the TEA TREE GULLY committee that he would not continue past Fridays game against Parafield..... I do not know what reasons he gave for stepping down, but i do know that Modbury did not try to stop Jim from doing the Gully job.

[pork belly]

Appologies Forza Roma your post led me to believe that Jimmy had spoken to Modbury first

[pork belly]

Look what youve started Silver Fox

[Jay Walking]

I was told that it was not due to any pressure from Modbury but rather due to family reasons. It had him out the house to much and he felt it was to much on his family and the commitments he had with them. Thats what I was told anyway.

It was always a chance it was going to happen and if he had to choose, he was always going to pick Modbury. Gully took a punt and it hasn't paid off. They had to expect it was a chance to happen and must take some of the blame.

Very plum coaching job to get though. Decent squad and good $$. Shouldn't have a problem attracting someone decent.

[Jay Walking]

How about a coach who is used to working with players who turn up for training...? Amateur is Amateur, players only turn up when there is a game on and are not interested in learning or getting better.... Claudio will be judged on what he can develop at Modbury with young players not with TTG and the idiots who just wanna play Sunday Arvo...

Many Amatuer clubs have players training 2 nights a week. We have only 2 who train one night. "The idiots who just wanna play Sunday Arvo" as you put it, sometimes do so because they dont enjoy Federation.

You are right that for career development, Claudio will be judged on his results at Modbury rather than TTG.

[Missing Post Count]

How about a coach who is used to working with players who turn up for training...? Amateur is Amateur, players only turn up when there is a game on and are not interested in learning or getting better.... Claudio will be judged on what he can develop at Modbury with young players not with TTG and the idiots who just wanna play Sunday Arvo...

Many Amatuer clubs have players training 2 nights a week. We have only 2 who train one night. "The idiots who just wanna play Sunday Arvo" as you put it, sometimes do so because they dont enjoy Federation.

There's are whole host of reasons why players choose to play amatuers in preference of Feds. You have to take each case separately.

[silver fox]

Very plum coaching job to get though. Decent squad and good $$. Shouldn't have a problem attracting someone decent.

Are you saying that someone should dump another club to take a plum job? because at this stage in the season anyone thats anyone has already got a job

[swannsong]

Very plum coaching job to get though. Decent squad and good $$. Shouldn't have a problem attracting someone decent.

Are you saying that someone should dump another club to take a plum job? because at this stage in the season anyone thats anyone has already got a job

Circumstances change for many people.
There might be a great coach out there who didn't put his hand up at the end of last year
that might be in a position to have a go now.
With the negative attitudes you are expressing in this public forum it might be possible that you
would not be helping the process of attracting candidates for the position.
That is my opinion as an impartial observer.
Positive breeds positive !

[TheWingBack]

There will be some coaches out there available atm. I know some who didn't take on jobs this year due to circumstances at the time but things change. If I was in the new coach's shoes though I'd be looking for some sort of committment from the committee that they won't get screwed over at the end of the season, as we all know that TTG have churned through their coaches in recent years for several reasons. That's not to say though that a new TTG coach should keep the job into 2009 if they don't deliver.

Good luck to TTG but from an outside perspective guys I'd be concerned to join your club with the current reputation. It might be time for you to change that as your club can only get better and go further.

[silver fox]

With the negative attitudes you are expressing in this public forum it might be possible that you
would not be helping the process of attracting candidates for the position.

I am not or have not had any involvment in running ttg football club, all I am is someone that watches my son play and yes this is a public forum. As far as i'm aware no member of the commitee has voiced any views on this matter. My aim in posting this topic was to get peoples reactions to the fact that a respected coach can pledge him self to a club, then two weeks before the season starts say up yours im off. The fact that he over committed him self has nothing to do with ttg. All of this was spoken about when he took the job. Yet he promised the club that it would not be an issue. As for comments about federation verses amateur thats a crock of crap. Surely the thing that should count are things like commitment and integrity. I might be wrong but shouldn't you stand by your word?

[swannsong]

With the negative attitudes you are expressing in this public forum it might be possible that you
would not be helping the process of attracting candidates for the position.

I am not or have not had any involvment in running ttg football club, all I am is someone that watches my son play and yes this is a public forum. As far as i'm aware no member of the commitee has voiced any views on this matter. My aim in posting this topic was to get peoples reactions to the fact that a respected coach can pledge him self to a club, then two weeks before the season starts say up yours im off. The fact that he over committed him self has nothing to do with ttg. All of this was spoken about when he took the job. Yet he promised the club that it would not be an issue. As for comments about federation verses amateur thats a crock of crap. Surely the thing that should count are things like commitment and integrity. I might be wrong but shouldn't you stand by your word?

Never said you were a member of the committee or club.
Everything I said still stands.

[coutinho10]

just to think it will be sour grapes for TTG come end of the year and salisbury inter get promoted to Div 1 and TTG don't..

[topcorner]

...and florina get relegated to div 2

[Lilly Whites]

Listen Silver Fox, the coach did commit to the team, but did the team commit to him? I'll tell you now that no coach worth his salt would stay at a club that only 6 players turn up to trainng..... So don't go putting all the blame on the coach, have a look at the boys who don't give a stuff about the club.

[Lilly Whites]

Inter mid table at best