SHOULD FUTSAL BE RUN BY ONE FEDERATION LIKE THE FFSA

[eagles]

I think that futsal should be run like our local comp, by the federation.
one group 10 teams from the north eastern area,one group from southern area,and a group from the western area.
top two teams from each division play off for a state championship

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Yeah maybe

[Squizzy]

I think that futsal should be run like our local comp, by the federation.
one group 10 teams from the north eastern area,one group from southern area,and a group from the western area.
top two teams from each division play off for a state championship

Yep. Bringing everyone under one banner seems like common sense to me.

[Missing Post Count]

The thing with common sense is it's not that common

[Squizzy]

The thing with common sense is it's not that common

That's very Zen.

True though.

[eagles]

I think that futsal should be run like our local comp, by the federation.
one group 10 teams from the north eastern area,one group from southern area,and a group from the western area.
top two teams from each division play off for a state championship

Yep. Bringing everyone under one banner seems like common sense to me.

you will find that under one organisation the futsal comp will run a lot smoother than at the moment,it will be safer,for players and spectators,no over crowding in the arenas,no spectators getting hurt, no kids walking behind the goals when game in play, like one day i saw a kid walking behind the goals when a player was taking a shot and it wasnt good this tells me that their is no control on the day or organisation one day someone is going to get badly injured,before they do anything wake up to the organisers of this comps

[Squizzy]

I think that futsal should be run like our local comp, by the federation.
one group 10 teams from the north eastern area,one group from southern area,and a group from the western area.
top two teams from each division play off for a state championship

Yep. Bringing everyone under one banner seems like common sense to me.

you will find that under one organisation the futsal comp will run a lot smoother than at the moment,it will be safer,for players and spectators,no over crowding in the arenas,no spectators getting hurt, no kids walking behind the goals when game in play, like one day i saw a kid walking behind the goals when a player was taking a shot and it wasnt good this tells me that their is no control on the day or organisation one day someone is going to get badly injured,before they do anything wake up to the organisers of this comps

I think you'll find this where ever futsal is played. I agree with you, in that it can be very dangerous, though.

At the recent Nationals, a lady was hit in the head and very badly shaken by a 'thunderous drive' at goal, while she was trying to leave the arena. But it's not just here - it's everywhere.

It's also the responsibility of the person that is moving behind goals to another court or out of the playing arena, to be watching what is going on courtside before 'slipping' around the back of the nets. OH&S is everyone's responsibility.

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It's also the responsibility of the person that is moving behind goals to another court or out of the playing arena, to be watching what is going on courtside before 'slipping' around the back of the nets. OH&S is everyone's responsibility.

Pfft, as if people are going to take responsibility for their own actions. Nothing is ever just an accident anymore. Everything is someone else's fault.

[FerrariTifosi27]

they should have a competition with Super League, Premier League & State League clubs.

[Squizzy]

they should have a competition with Super League, Premier League & State League clubs.

Now that's an excellent suggestion!!

[mattieg1200]

I think that futsal should be run like our local comp, by the federation.
one group 10 teams from the north eastern area,one group from southern area,and a group from the western area.
top two teams from each division play off for a state championship

Yep. Bringing everyone under one banner seems like common sense to me.

great idea.. imo vikings and stingrays and all other rebel groups or however you want to describe them shouldnt be allowed.. and all players and teams registered under the FFSA banner..

[Squizzy]

I wonder as to whether you can do both. That is they could still operate in their own name but come under the FFSA banner - I guess more like a club (for want of a better word).

Needs to be dealt with at a level a lot higher than what I'm at though.

[E. Grant & Co]

From where I'm sitting [safely away from behind the goals] FUTSAL is still considered purely a recreational past time, a bit of fun and not taken as seriously as the out door game.

Until you change that perception you won't have much luck in upgrading the sport to its rightful position.

If the FFSA decided to run their own 'BEST Futsal League' and allowed the players to be paid as they are in the amateur league and the semi-pro leagues then you might find you have a half decent league.

There in lies the problem doesn't it, where do you find the money to pay these players, would spectators pay to go and see a Futsal competition, are there any sponsors who would support it.

[udinese76]

In reply to some remarks made on here its a great idea for the adelaide comp. But alot of you think you know it all in terms of what is going on in Futsal the federation and affiliated organisations with out knowing the full extent. You will see great changes coming this year and thats all i can say. Are any of you in committes in organisations being ffsa affiliated or not.

In terms of having just the super league, premier league etc competing in a futsal comp is a load of crap. I have played against the likes of these players in comps, while some are reasonable at futsal they r crap. Different game to outdoor and the way they play here (outdoor) long ball crap they dont have the skill. Why not let the Stingrays or Vikings play at least they r futsal clubs.

Dont know what you have against the Stingrays but at least they are trying to do something with Futsal in this state which has been stagnet for 15 yrs and the FFSA are taking notice of this!

Stingrays are an SA club unlike the vikings and are achieving good success and Spiro is working his bollocks off to get futsal going. Bag him all you want and the Stingrays he will be successful in bringing futsal together. I have seen first hand how futsal has been run in the last 15 yrs and i know its time for change and the Stingrays will be the pioneers of this change.

[sting]

Having Stingrays under the FFSA banner would grow this sport to the next level which you all are waiting for. Stingrays are the most experienced in Futsal and have proven futsal programs that will develop your children, a guarantee you cant get better than that. What Stingrays offer is the best futsal programs available at all levels. We strive to be the best we can be by giving you every opportunity with a clear pathway to progress your talent.

[sting]

Thank you Udinese, some strong words and we aknowledge what you have said, and I agree about not having the outdoor clubs trying to play futsal, if they were they need to have first hand futsal clinics to help there coaches understand the game. You know as well as I do 2 different sports those that know both games. Its like playing tennis and wanting to play squash. Outdoor soccer is played with 11 players with players having a set position - futsal is played with 5 players moving in space all the time.
With so many sports looking at expanding there sport like cricket moving to beach cricket, we forget the biggest picture its about giving children every opportunity to be the best can by helping them develop there game which ever sport they play. There is a very small percentage of players that make it, our goal is to give them the tools and experience to help with there development.

[E. Grant & Co]

While I understand the sentiments behind the last few posts, I can not see why some of the local clubs couldn't field Futsal teams, I'm not suggesting they are made up of out door players but expand the local clubs to field Futsal teams, just like Barcelona and Real Madrid field teams in both Basketball and Volleyball. Why can't ABE field an Azzuri Futsal team or Raiders a team called Croatia etc etc.

Maybe the local clubs aren't interested, which is likely the case, but don't exclude them out of hand.

And no I' don't work on any committee or for any club, way too much politics for a straight shooter like me.

Would Spiro be the player that won an award from the old SASF many years ago for the Futsal player of the year?

[Squizzy]

Thank you Udinese, some strong words and we aknowledge what you have said, and I agree about not having the outdoor clubs trying to play futsal, if they were they need to have first hand futsal clinics to help there coaches understand the game. You know as well as I do 2 different sports those that know both games. Its like playing tennis and wanting to play squash. Outdoor soccer is played with 11 players with players having a set position - futsal is played with 5 players moving in space all the time.
With so many sports looking at expanding there sport like cricket moving to beach cricket, we forget the biggest picture its about giving children every opportunity to be the best can by helping them develop there game which ever sport they play. There is a very small percentage of players that make it, our goal is to give them the tools and experience to help with there development.

Sting & Udinese,

I don't think that having the outdoor clubs playing would be a bad idea at all. We all agree that it is different and also not all sides play long ball at junior or senior level. (I'm not saying they play futsal orientated either but the gap is closing).

Although steps would need to be taken. For example (and don't crucify me to suggesting something), if done properly, then why not have 2 or 3 divisions, whereby the outdoor players that will obviously need to adjust the way they play can still learn and gain skills AND attempt to make the 1st division where the (Futsal) skill level would be better.

You mentioned it also - Education is the key. At the end of the day, it will also help with the outdoor game.

[Squizzy]

While I understand the sentiments behind the last few posts, I can not see why some of the local clubs couldn't field Futsal teams, I'm not suggesting they are made up of out door players but expand the local clubs to field Futsal teams, just like Barcelona and Real Madrid field teams in both Basketball and Volleyball. Why can't ABE field an Azzuri Futsal team or Raiders a team called Croatia etc etc.

Maybe the local clubs aren't interested, which is likely the case, but don't exclude them out of hand.

And no I' don't work on any committee or for any club, way too much politics for a straight shooter like me.

Would Spiro be the player that won an award from the old SASF many years ago for the Futsal player of the year?

Well said - couldn't agree more.

Yes, I'm on the FFSA Futsal Committee. But as I said in another post - steps need to be done at a level waaay higher than me.

[sting]

E Grant & Co it is nice to be remembered for SASF top goal scorer of 169 goals, Peter Moffa was player of the year and thank you. 2008 is a big year for Stingrays, our professional approach will be seen by many.
Too many outdoor coaches still wont let there players play futsal, I have spoken to many players that will play futsal and have said there game in the outdoor game has improved immensley. Too many coaches still have the mentality that players will get injured playing., must still be refering to indoor recound soccer. Coaches need to be educated on futsal and shown how it can help every player. I am still very suprised why not every player arent using futsal as a tool to help improve there game. Here is something to think about: a painter without a roller or brush, a cabinet maker without his tools, a brick layer without a cement mixer, a cricket batsman without a bat, all these mean something, without your tool you are still from the old school. Futsal will improve all aspect of your game giving you the tools to fine tune your skills.

[sting]

One more thing for you all to think about, we have in the past played the best premier league team coached by Zafran who is a gentleman and saw his team could benefit from Port Pirates, who in that time had a great outdoor side (Kon Hrisoidis, George Harambakis, Leo Mao etc. this team played SA Force Futsal Team and got pumped 12 -1, some of these players came away to the Nationals and struggled. I say this again 2 different games, it takes allot to adjust as outdoor is known to be physical were as futsal is to be creative no offence to any players. Players need to be educated to make that transition. Stingrays will help any club or organisation to make that transition and to learn all the formations to help change there oppinion of futsal. If you were going to get your license and had a bad teacher would you get your license? If you had a professional driver who knew how to teach you, knew how to be patient, helped you learn when making mistakes would you have a better chance of getting your license? Stingrays will make that difference you will see....

[spiza]

Well done spiro and to the Stingrays.

[Raymond]

Saturday 9th of Feb 2008

Futsal SA
Junior Futsal Semi Finals at St Jays Recreation Centre, Brown Terrace Salisbury

Under 8 CONSOLATION (Bottom 4)
9.00am Salisbury East Snipers v Tea Tree Gully Strikers
9.35am Para Hills White v The Bullets

Under 8 Top 410.10AM Viduka Boys v Summer Saints
10.45am Tea Tree Gully Rangers v Westies (Para Hills West)

Under 10 Top 4
11.25am Samba Stars v The Gullies
12.00pm Ingle Farm Force v St Jays Allstars

Under 12 Top 4
12.40pm Saints (St. Augustines) v Peckers (Eliz Grove)
1.15pm The Reds v Red Demons

Under 16B Top 4
1.50pm Saints (St Augustines) v One Tree Hill
2.35pm Cougars (St Aug) v Green & White Bloods (Ingle Farm)

Under 16A Top 4
3.00pm Northern Allstars v Jets (Modbury)
3.35pm Rossoneri (Salisbury Villa) v Dream Team

EVERYONE IS WELCOME
SPECTATOR ENTRY IS FREE
AIRCONDITIONED STADIUM WITH GRANDSTAND AND FULL FACILITIES

For more info contact Ray Grima the competition Manager mundu55@hotmail.com
0411-636-590

[Barney Rubble]

Saturday 9th of Feb 2008

Futsal SA
Junior Futsal Semi Finals at St Jays Recreation Centre, Brown Terrace Salisbury

Under 8 CONSOLATION (Bottom 4)
9.00am Salisbury East Snipers v Tea Tree Gully Strikers
9.35am Para Hills White v The Bullets

Under 8 Top 410.10AM Viduka Boys v Summer Saints
10.45am Tea Tree Gully Rangers v Westies (Para Hills West)

Under 10 Top 4
11.25am Samba Stars v The Gullies
12.00pm Ingle Farm Force v St Jays Allstars

Under 12 Top 4
12.40pm Saints (St. Augustines) v Peckers (Eliz Grove)
1.15pm The Reds v Red Demons

Under 16B Top 4
1.50pm Saints (St Augustines) v One Tree Hill
2.35pm Cougars (St Aug) v Green & White Bloods (Ingle Farm)

Under 16A Top 4
3.00pm Northern Allstars v Jets (Modbury)
3.35pm Rossoneri (Salisbury Villa) v Dream Team

EVERYONE IS WELCOME
SPECTATOR ENTRY IS FREE
AIRCONDITIONED STADIUM WITH GRANDSTAND AND FULL FACILITIES

For more info contact Ray Grima the competition Manager mundu55@hotmail.com
0411-636-590

Now there are two good reasons to to be there.
Should put an option "Gold Coin" donation there too.
People (myself included), would happily drop a few bucks into the St.Jays coffers if there are providing facilities to assist with the developement of Futsal

[Raymond]

In order to develop this game one needs to first witness the game and the organisation of the competition, but thanks for your input. Look forward to seeing you there...come up and say hello barney.

[Barney Rubble]

In order to develop this game one needs to first witness the game and the organisation of the competition, but thanks for your input. Look forward to seeing you there...come up and say hello barney.

Do my best Raymond, i'll have my leopard skin and thongs on !

[Raymond]

Bring Sexy betty with you and little Bamm Bamm to help with the goals, but leave Fred home.... lol

[Raymond]

Futsal? Who is really at fault?
Who gave the Vikings and the Stingrays the go ahead to run academies? Are these all approved by the FFSA and the FFA?

[sting]

Who is at fault for letting FUTSAL SA run the futsal?
Old hens trying to run Futsal.

Wait lets see what they have in place.

No I wont fall into there stupid tactics, people already know.


Enjoy your day!!!!!

[Raymond]

Now Now Spiro you also had your chance to be a part of it before you chose to stay away for the last 7 years.
If you thought you caould make a difference you should have got involved sooner.
Who are you calling an old hen anyway? Respect your elders...
Have a good Easter..