But he kicked the keeper in the head. Above is irrelevant. Red card. Most see this except Liverpool fans. Wonder what their opinion would be if it happened at the other end.
I think the 'keeper was a bit soft given he only had a few scratches to show for it.
It was a Yellow Card challenge, because if Mane's foot hadn't dropped the 'keeper, and Mane had been bowled over, the 'keeper would have been given a Red card for a foul outside his area.
As it was the 'keeper got off with a dangerous foul by acting as if he was dead and the Referee fell for it.
You must be senile, how was the keeper being dangerous by trying to head the ball?
As Hawkesy would say, "it's never their fault".
"The game is about glory, doing things in style and with a flourish, going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Danny Blanchflower
But he kicked the keeper in the head. Above is irrelevant. Red card. Most see this except Liverpool fans. Wonder what their opinion would be if it happened at the other end.
I think the 'keeper was a bit soft given he only had a few scratches to show for it.
It was a Yellow Card challenge, because if Mane's foot hadn't dropped the 'keeper, and Mane had been bowled over, the 'keeper would have been given a Red card for a foul outside his area.
As it was the 'keeper got off with a dangerous foul by acting as if he was dead and the Referee fell for it.
You must be senile, how was the keeper being dangerous by trying to head the ball?
As Hawkesy would say, "it's never their fault".
He was running straight at Mane and would have bowled him over as he was nowhere near the ball.
Just because you disagree with me doesn't mean to say I'm senile - it's just you are too up yourself to make a sensible reply.
Old Master wrote:I think the 'keeper was a bit soft given he only had a few scratches to show for it.
It was a Yellow Card challenge, because if Mane's foot hadn't dropped the 'keeper, and Mane had been bowled over, the 'keeper would have been given a Red card for a foul outside his area.
As it was the 'keeper got off with a dangerous foul by acting as if he was dead and the Referee fell for it.
You must be senile, how was the keeper being dangerous by trying to head the ball?
As Hawkesy would say, "it's never their fault".
He was running straight at Mane and would have bowled him over as he was nowhere near the ball.
Just because you disagree with me doesn't mean to say I'm senile - it's just you are too up yourself to make a sensible reply.
You are senile you old fool. Either that or you're blind as the proverbial bat.
What is this "nowhere near the ball" rubbish, he headed it back up the pitch before Mane collected him in the face. How near would you like him to get?
"The game is about glory, doing things in style and with a flourish, going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Danny Blanchflower
God is an Englishman wrote:Never a red, yellow at most.
I suppose it depends on your definition of serious foul play. It obviously wasn't deliberate, but surely you have a duty of care to your fellow players.
If you lead with your studs with a straight leg at shin height it's a red most of the time, at head height I don't think the ref had a choice.
"The game is about glory, doing things in style and with a flourish, going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Danny Blanchflower
God is an Englishman wrote:Never a red, yellow at most.
I suppose it depends on your definition of serious foul play. It obviously wasn't deliberate, but surely you have a duty of care to your fellow players.
If you lead with your studs with a straight leg at shin height it's a red most of the time, at head height I don't think the ref had a choice.
ball was there, he was going for the ball, only looking at the ball.
God is an Englishman wrote:Never a red, yellow at most.
I suppose it depends on your definition of serious foul play. It obviously wasn't deliberate, but surely you have a duty of care to your fellow players.
If you lead with your studs with a straight leg at shin height it's a red most of the time, at head height I don't think the ref had a choice.
God is an Englishman wrote:Never a red, yellow at most.
I suppose it depends on your definition of serious foul play. It obviously wasn't deliberate, but surely you have a duty of care to your fellow players.
If you lead with your studs with a straight leg at shin height it's a red most of the time, at head height I don't think the ref had a choice.
ball was there, he was going for the ball, only looking at the ball.
I don't disagree with you, but the LOTG don't say anything about intent or what you're looking at, he didn't get the ball, he kicked Ederson in the head, 6 feet off the floor.
"The game is about glory, doing things in style and with a flourish, going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Danny Blanchflower
Ref 100% correct, send-off and no other option. Mane did not intentionally go in to kick the keeper's head but that does not excuse the fact that it was a serious foul play offence. By saying that the challenge was yellow at most, does this mean that GIAE would be happy with a free kick and no sanction? If he said yellow at least I would understand more from where he was coming from (though would still personally disagree). I would see the red standing as the FA would be foolish to reduce or rescind the punishment- most likely a two game suspension.
If this offence occurred anywhere else on the park everyone would be in favour of a send off, just because it involved a GK it should make no difference.
God is an Englishman wrote:How are you going to only be looking at the ball whilst knowing where I am and where my leg is?
You're a large target :wink:
"The game is about glory, doing things in style and with a flourish, going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Danny Blanchflower
God is an Englishman wrote:No it doesn't, the law of serious foul play leaves it to interpretation.
By going in with both feet off the ground and studs up at head/shoulder height he is making a reckless challenge likely to endanger a player. If a player does exactly the same at knee height it's a red all day long and yet doing it at head height is acceptable?
"The game is about glory, doing things in style and with a flourish, going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Danny Blanchflower
God is an Englishman wrote:No it doesn't, the law of serious foul play leaves it to interpretation.
By going in with both feet off the ground and studs up at head/shoulder height he is making a reckless challenge likely to endanger a player. If a player does exactly the same at knee height it's a red all day long and yet doing it at head height is acceptable?
As I said, it all comes down to interpretation and how you view that offence. It's not cut and dry and comes down to opinion. He certainly won't be able to appeal the red card as to the letter of the law he could be sent off. However, also to the letter of the law he could have only been cautioned.
God is an Englishman wrote:No it doesn't, the law of serious foul play leaves it to interpretation.
By going in with both feet off the ground and studs up at head/shoulder height he is making a reckless challenge likely to endanger a player. If a player does exactly the same at knee height it's a red all day long and yet doing it at head height is acceptable?
As I said, it all comes down to interpretation and how you view that offence. It's not cut and dry and comes down to opinion. He certainly won't be able to appeal the red card as to the letter of the law he could be sent off. However, also to the letter of the law he could have only been cautioned.
Makes perfect sense to me. If a yellow was given, we probably wouldn't even be talking about it. I can see how a red was given but it is what it is, hence I say just got to accept it and move on. People laughed at Croydon losing 5-0 in game 1 this season, didn't hurt us too much did it? :wink:
God is an Englishman wrote:Never a red, yellow at most.
Might join amateurs again just so I can snap your leg in half whilst I have my eyes on the ball.
well that would suggest it was pre meditated, hard to do that whilst only looking at the ball.
Peripheral vision should do the job. Fair challenge, with only a yellow. I'll even hold the penthrox inhaler in your mouth as you're stretchered off as a show of goodwill.
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God is an Englishman wrote:Bring it on, won't me much of a player if that's all you're going to do.
I offer nothing as a player these days. I'll be a one game wonder. Hopefully you won't be in too much pain so that you can help me protest if I unfairly get a red
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God is an Englishman wrote:Bring it on, won't me much of a player if that's all you're going to do.
I offer nothing as a player these days. I'll be a one game wonder. Hopefully you won't be in too much pain so that you can help me protest if I unfairly get a red
No problem at all, I'd suggest though randomly kicking someone will be hard to show you were going for the ball. PLUS, I have this thread to prove it was a deliberate in malicious act. See you in court.
God is an Englishman wrote:Bring it on, won't me much of a player if that's all you're going to do.
I offer nothing as a player these days. I'll be a one game wonder. Hopefully you won't be in too much pain so that you can help me protest if I unfairly get a red
No problem at all, I'd suggest though randomly kicking someone will be hard to show you were going for the ball. PLUS, I have this thread to prove it was a deliberate in malicious act. See you in court.
lol. Court threats, think my work here is done
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lol. Court threats, think my work here is done
You've admitted to deliberately breaking my leg. I'd need to recuperate my income somehow. However, the vision of you running round the 6 yard box randomly kicking would make an amusing sight.
Sunny Vanilla wrote:
lol. Court threats, think my work here is done
You've admitted to deliberately breaking my leg. I'd need to recuperate my income somehow. However, the vision of you running round the 6 yard box randomly kicking would make an amusing sight.
So if I did all this without advertising it on here before, it would have been ok? Who is randomly kicking? I have my eyes on the ball when you are also challenging for the same ball. Yellow card.
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