il duce wrote:you know your country is great and your team commands respect when fans of other countries that werent good enough to qualify take pleasure in seeing you lose
SOLO ITALIA
i might even wear the Azzurri shirt today simply cause NON MOLLARE MAI
Respect
i know Im gonna cop it
might as well cop it with pride for the country
seeing that Bosnian Ibrahimovic tear the Greeks a new a-hole if he's fit will allow me to dish it back tomorrow
you have to wear the colors! how good do the Italy tops look as well?!? Designed by Armani my missus told me...
remember when Italy got knocked out in 2002 and the next night had to pick up this hottie from work in the city... wore my Italia jacket, they were paying me out all down the street, then when i walked back with my chick at the time, they all stared... hilarious!
worst thing about 2002 was the fact we got done by the f*shiraz asians, with the south american refs runnning the show.
at least this time, was a quality side that beat us.
you would recall i said Holland would come through... their defence is solid, just not its usuall attacking style, which i think benefitted their midfield...
I watch Kuyt every week, and the bastard saves his best for Italy... his passing and interplay on the right was actually sublime, compare trhat with Camaronesi, who was slack and couldnt pass/dribble past a blade of grass.
its people like "the fascist" that bring this animosity between GREEKS and i-ties!!!
no HELLAS supporter bagged ur team on here... yes im happy u got done coz of the stupid comments u write!!! (ala zlatan)
the good thing for u guys now is that u r forced 2 play 2 win now... and the loss now should mean a change in the line-up and formation... materazzi and camoronesi r shit, di natale and ambrosini not much better... iyaly looked much better with grosso on the left
4-3-3 dont suit italy... tough game vs romania, which u should win, making the france game the crunch 1
maybe no cannavaro, no italy???
good luck in your remaining games
"Thats not sexy football!" and "Play the REAL one... again and again"
It just wasn't our day. Could easily have scored two chances and the Dutch go down the other end and convert. But that is football and credit to the Dutch was played very well.
Albertini Reveals Italy Fury
FIGC representative Demetrio Albertini has revealed that giant replay screens inside the stadium infuriated the Italy squad during their heavy defeat to the Netherlands.
The 3-0 defeat was set into motion after Ruud Van Nistelrooy’s opening goal mid-way through the first half, which clearly should have been ruled out due to van Nistelrooy being offside.
The incident was persistently replayed in slow motion on the screens inside the Stade de Suisse, which caused the Italian stars to become infuriated at what had happened.
Former Italian international Albertini, who made 79 appearances for his country, was present at the ground.
“On the first goal the thing that irritated the players a great deal was seeing the replays on the giant screens during the match, as that raised tension and probably affected the referee, too,” explained Albertini to Football Italia.
“Luca Toni also got booked for pointing to the screens and we know that can have an effect in the future of this tournament.”
The Azzurri were clearly ruffled by the incident and soon after conceded a second from Wesley Sneijder after a brilliant Dutch counter-attack.
“It’s true we didn’t deserve to win this game, but the scoreline was excessively heavy,” added Albertini.
Italy are currently bottom of Group C, billed as the “group of death”, behind Holland on three points and France and Romania who have one point apiece.
The Azzurri had not lost to the Dutch since a 2-1 World Cup semi-final defeat in 1978, managing five wins and three draws since that game.
In total there have now been 16 meetings between the two nations with seven Italy victories, six draws and three wins for the Netherlands.
regarding the screen, i attended the wc 2006 & replays of fouls, offsides & anything slightly controversial were never screened. i have to agree with albertini, particularly with concern to the officials, viewing their errors could result in them losing the ability to control the game.
very hard defeat to swallow as 3-0 is a big defeat and will be hard to recover from
first all let me say the dutch played and pressed italy very high up the park and italy's defence wasn't the usual wall it has been in the past! I mean we have no one of the calibre of cannavaro (we miss him a lot cos of his leadership and ability to organise and lift everyone around him!), nesta, baresi, maldini, scirea etc!
Panzagli (maybe he should have stopped going to all those restaurants in palermo...12million for him is a good result for palermo) is shite – our whole defence is crap and slow! Donadoni made the changes too late – italy looked better with zambrotta and grosso (he adds pas and crosses any chance he gets) out wide – del piero should have come on earlier!
The first goal Holland scored was clearly offside, the second and third were quick breaks and bad marking – I can’t remember the last time an italian got caught on the break, can you?
Holland played well and moved the ball well – lets hope they beat france and we beat Romania but it is gonna take a lot to get back into this tournament!
We lacked creativity especially in the first half - the secodn half we played a bit better and looked abit more lively
Having said that italy could have drawn the match with some of the chances they had – ambrosini’s (who I thought played well) di natale, grosso, toni, alex all could of scored! Lets hope they get better!
Also how bad was the ref decision’s last night how many free kicks did he miss for italy – the one where alex or zambrotta got bodychecked in the second half? I still don’t know how the linesman missed the offside!
Also what is with pirlo’s freekicks into the box they were terrible and always too high except for the one van der saar pulled off a great save!
Hopefully the boys can bounce back against romania - if we beat them and france we go throughbut to do so i think the lineup needs to change - maybe grosso and alex to start and maybe perotta or aquilani
the diving thing seemed to work against the Italians for the first goal, why was the defender laying down anyway? it's not as if he was going to get a freekick for his own keeper touching him.
getborn wrote:Albertini Reveals Italy Fury
FIGC representative Demetrio Albertini has revealed that giant replay screens inside the stadium infuriated the Italy squad during their heavy defeat to the Netherlands.
The 3-0 defeat was set into motion after Ruud Van Nistelrooy’s opening goal mid-way through the first half, which clearly should have been ruled out due to van Nistelrooy being offside.
The incident was persistently replayed in slow motion on the screens inside the Stade de Suisse, which caused the Italian stars to become infuriated at what had happened.
Former Italian international Albertini, who made 79 appearances for his country, was present at the ground.
“On the first goal the thing that irritated the players a great deal was seeing the replays on the giant screens during the match, as that raised tension and probably affected the referee, too,” explained Albertini to Football Italia.
“Luca Toni also got booked for pointing to the screens and we know that can have an effect in the future of this tournament.”
The Azzurri were clearly ruffled by the incident and soon after conceded a second from Wesley Sneijder after a brilliant Dutch counter-attack.
“It’s true we didn’t deserve to win this game, but the scoreline was excessively heavy,” added Albertini.
Italy are currently bottom of Group C, billed as the “group of death”, behind Holland on three points and France and Romania who have one point apiece.
The Azzurri had not lost to the Dutch since a 2-1 World Cup semi-final defeat in 1978, managing five wins and three draws since that game.
In total there have now been 16 meetings between the two nations with seven Italy victories, six draws and three wins for the Netherlands.
regarding the screen, i attended the wc 2006 & replays of fouls, offsides & anything slightly controversial were never screened. i have to agree with albertini, particularly with concern to the officials, viewing their errors could result in them losing the ability to control the game.
getborn wrote:Albertini Reveals Italy Fury
FIGC representative Demetrio Albertini has revealed that giant replay screens inside the stadium infuriated the Italy squad during their heavy defeat to the Netherlands.
The 3-0 defeat was set into motion after Ruud Van Nistelrooy’s opening goal mid-way through the first half, which clearly should have been ruled out due to van Nistelrooy being offside.
The incident was persistently replayed in slow motion on the screens inside the Stade de Suisse, which caused the Italian stars to become infuriated at what had happened.
Former Italian international Albertini, who made 79 appearances for his country, was present at the ground.
“On the first goal the thing that irritated the players a great deal was seeing the replays on the giant screens during the match, as that raised tension and probably affected the referee, too,” explained Albertini to Football Italia.
“Luca Toni also got booked for pointing to the screens and we know that can have an effect in the future of this tournament.”
The Azzurri were clearly ruffled by the incident and soon after conceded a second from Wesley Sneijder after a brilliant Dutch counter-attack.
“It’s true we didn’t deserve to win this game, but the scoreline was excessively heavy,” added Albertini.
Italy are currently bottom of Group C, billed as the “group of death”, behind Holland on three points and France and Romania who have one point apiece.
The Azzurri had not lost to the Dutch since a 2-1 World Cup semi-final defeat in 1978, managing five wins and three draws since that game.
In total there have now been 16 meetings between the two nations with seven Italy victories, six draws and three wins for the Netherlands.
regarding the screen, i attended the wc 2006 & replays of fouls, offsides & anything slightly controversial were never screened. i have to agree with albertini, particularly with concern to the officials, viewing their errors could result in them losing the ability to control the game.
this is crap... first goal was Buffon's fault.
agree,,, but i posted the article because i was suprised that replays would be continually broadcast not as an excuse at all.
The website wrote:But what looked a desperately poor decision was, in fact, a brilliant piece of officiating, according to the chairman of Austria's refereeing commission Gerhard Kapl.
Kapl said Van Nistelrooy was played onside by Italy's Christian Panucci, who had been injured seconds earlier and was lying behind the goal when the Dutch striker scored.
He said the goal was "100% correct, without any doubt", quoting article 11.4.1. of the refereeing code that states "an opposing player cannot be offside when one of the last two defenders has left the field of play" - as in the case of Panucci.
Well done 2 the DUTCH it was a great game unfortunatly the result didnt go our way but all i hope 4 the next game against Romania is that Toni has some help he struggled on his own i thought we look gd when Del Piero come on im sure the 2 would be a gd combo
dutch was class this morning, italy looked bit shaky on the back at times, dutch didnt have many stars but what a gun sneijder and van de vart are, saying that i think italy could of scored anytime if they took one or 2 chances.... del perio comes on what a gun at his age still makes things happen... but it was just fantastic to watch the dutch this morning hope they win this euro, france-shocking, italy will beat them...
Entertaining game - have to hand it to the Dutch - great performance.
Italy have a track record of living on the edge with referees - walking a very fine line - sometimes the decisions go in your favour - sometimes they go against you.
"Live by the sword, die by the sword".
RVN looked metres offside - when he scored he immediately looked straight at the linesman and was initially very muted in his celebration. He obviously thought he was offside.
On the rules - I thought that if you stepped over the sideline you were not in play and did not affect the offside rule. That was something I was taught as a kid. Have the rules changed or am I just wrong?
Italy can expect (and rightly so) little change from the referees during Euro 2008. I dont want to harp on the past but Germany 2006 is still fresh in the minds of match officials and FIFA. As demonstrated last night - the referees are going to take a pretty hard stance on simulation.
The Italian performance was probably the worst I have ever seen from the Azzurri. Van Nistelrooy’s goal was clearly offside so they were unlikely to go behind. Still, I have never seen the Italian defence in such shambles before. They were hit twice on the counter attack after their corners were cleared.
As for the Dutch, they looked very solid at the back and you can understand why they only conceded five goals in qualifying. The scoreline somewhat flattered the quality of their attack which is still missing Robben and Van Persie (the later came on as a substitute). Despite the scoreline and the opponent they were playing, the performance was not nearly as impressive as the Portuguese but perhaps that is a blessing in disguise as the winners in these tournaments usually do not come out all guns blazing.
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