The ashes in Australia 2013-14

[swannsong]

Ask Vaughan, he knows more than me. But the clue would be in the fact his answer would be same as mine.

hold on I'll just give him a call.


sorry, no answer he's probably on the golf course.

So facts are these, 3-0 in England was close but for the weather could have been 4-0.

How can "could have been" be labelled "a fact" to begin with? Until you can grasp this, then you may want to revisit this 4-0 rubbish.
Bottom line - we have a REAL 4-0 lead.

Also keeps forgetting the 3rd Test that Australia 'might' have won....was the draw that meant England retained the Ashes....a win there 'might' have changed the series outlook...

[God is an Englishman]

How can "could have been" be labelled "a fact" to begin with? Until you can grasp this, then you may want to revisit this 4-0 rubbish.
Bottom line - we have a REAL 4-0 lead.

because we could have been, that's a fact.


Also keeps forgetting the 3rd Test that Australia 'might' have won....was the draw that meant England retained the Ashes....a win there 'might' have changed the series outlook...

because we could have been, that's a fact.

you mean the game that was still a long way out compared to a game which only needed 1 more over.

[swannsong]

"could have" is not a factual event, it is still a supposition.

[God is an Englishman]

"could have" is not a factual event, it is still a supposition.

are you saying we couldn't have won. Of course we could, it's a fact. It wouldn't be a fact to say we would have but it's undeniable that we could have. FACT!

[swannsong]

"could have" is not a factual event, it is still a supposition.

are you saying we couldn't have won. Of course we could, it's a fact. It wouldn't be a fact to say we would have but it's undeniable that we could have. FACT!

As with the 3rd Test 3/37 (or 37/3) and only 20 overs bowled...
The 5th Test England sill needed 21 runs form 4 overs with 5 wickets down....Australia could have won that one too !

[Bomber]

"could have" is not a factual event, it is still a supposition.

are you saying we couldn't have won. Of course we could, it's a fact. It wouldn't be a fact to say we would have but it's undeniable that we could have. FACT!

It is also therefore a fact that you could have won only 3-2 (using that analogy). Therefore pointless

[God is an Englishman]

"could have" is not a factual event, it is still a supposition.

are you saying we couldn't have won. Of course we could, it's a fact. It wouldn't be a fact to say we would have but it's undeniable that we could have. FACT!

It is also therefore a fact that you could have won only 3-2 (using that analogy). Therefore pointless

yes could have, but not a fact and also extremely unlikely.

[Bomber]

yes could have, but not a fact

Bingo. So you've basically contradicted yourself. Thanks for playing.

[God is an Englishman]

yes could have, but not a fact

Bingo. So you've basically contradicted yourself. Thanks for playing.

Seems like I've said the same all along. It's a fact you could have not not a fact you did. Thanks for playing

[swannsong]

When I see and read these posts, I keep thinking of that old battery commercial with a battery playing tennis against Chang !
"Don't you ever give up..?"

[God is an Englishman]

Just because the students won't listen doesn't mean the teacher should give up. I'm here to educate.

[Bomber]

yes could have, but not a fact and also extremely unlikely.

Of course we could, it's a fact. It wouldn't be a fact to say we would have but it's undeniable that we could have. FACT!

Go on, mr educator, go your hardest!

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God is an Englishman

Just because the students won't listen doesn't mean the teacher should give up. I'm here to educate.

^^^^^^^
misguided arrogance, self indulgence, delusional etc etc....worthy of comic relief thus keep going for all our amusement....

[God is an Englishman]

God is an Englishman

Just because the students won't listen doesn't mean the teacher should give up. I'm here to educate.

^^^^^^^
misguided arrogance, self indulgence, delusional etc etc....worthy of comic relief thus keep going for all our amusement....

Arrogance is a self deluded sense of your own ability. I'm not arrogant, I am as great as I think I am.

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English Cricket HELP LINE
1800 40 40 40

thats 1800 four nothing four nothing four nothing

[Bomber]

yes could have, but not a fact and also extremely unlikely.

Of course we could, it's a fact. It wouldn't be a fact to say we would have but it's undeniable that we could have. FACT!

Go on, mr educator, go your hardest!

Well, Ive given you all night to construct your lesson plan. Still no response to why if one thing that could happen is a fact, yet another thing that could happen is not a fact. Hmmm?

[God is an Englishman]

yes could have, but not a fact and also extremely unlikely.

Of course we could, it's a fact. It wouldn't be a fact to say we would have but it's undeniable that we could have. FACT!

Go on, mr educator, go your hardest!

Well, Ive given you all night to construct your lesson plan. Still no response to why if one thing that could happen is a fact, yet another thing that could happen is not a fact. Hmmm?

it's there in black and white above.

It's a fact we could have but not a fact that it would happen.

[Bomber]

Nice try. Now maybe you'd like to explain how something that "could have" happened (ie won the test if not for rain) is a fact and how something that "could have" happened (ie WE won the test of not for rain) isn't a fact?

[God is an Englishman]

Nice try. Now maybe you'd like to explain how something that "could have" happened (ie won the test if not for rain) is a fact and how something that "could have" happened (ie WE won the test of not for rain) isn't a fact?

As previously stated, I'll try and keep it simple and only use one of the situations.

It's a fact that we could have but it's not a fact that would have.

[Bomber]

Nice try. Now maybe you'd like to explain how something that "could have" happened (ie won the test if not for rain) is a fact and how something that "could have" happened (ie WE won the test of not for rain) isn't a fact?

As previously stated, I'll try and keep it simple and only use one of the situations.

It's a fact that we could have but it's not a fact that would have.

Thats not what you said though! Back-pedal much?

[God is an Englishman]

Nice try. Now maybe you'd like to explain how something that "could have" happened (ie won the test if not for rain) is a fact and how something that "could have" happened (ie WE won the test of not for rain) isn't a fact?

As previously stated, I'll try and keep it simple and only use one of the situations.

It's a fact that we could have but it's not a fact that would have.

Thats not what you said though! Back-pedal much?

it's above in black and white.

[Bomber]

And all the previous posts that caught you out are in black and white also.

Better luck next year and hopefully you wont lose your education licence.

[God is an Englishman]

And all the previous posts that caught you out are in black and white also.

Better luck next year and hopefully you wont lose your education licence.

my eye sight must be going as I can't see them.

[Bomber]

And all the previous posts that caught you out are in black and white also.

Better luck next year and hopefully you wont lose your education licence.

my eye sight must be going as I can't see them.

That's half your problem, you never open the other eye!

[God is an Englishman]

And all the previous posts that caught you out are in black and white also.

Better luck next year and hopefully you wont lose your education licence.

my eye sight must be going as I can't see them.

That's half your problem, you never open the other eye!

this from an aussie, you could get a job with channel 9 the way you see Australian sport.

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England hand debut caps to a Zimbabwean & a Northern Irishman for the Sydney Test.

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ECB:

Battered in Brisbane;
Awful in Adelaide;
Pathetic in Perth;
Meltdown in Melbourne;

and expecting to be Smashed in Sydney.

[Bomber]

Inside cricket on fox last night. Boycott maintains a 3-0 score was very flattering when in england and that 2-2 was more along the lines of a fair result.
I guess he knows nothing about cricket...............(as boring as he was when he played)

[God is an Englishman]

England hand debut caps to a Zimbabwean & a Northern Irishman for the Sydney Test.

What's their parentage?

[God is an Englishman]

a number of people already wearing pink at the Sydney test. Good to see they're honouring an English woman.