Man Utd

[Le King]

Love the hate towards United keep it up lads

No its just that you cannot actually construct an argument.

What ive highlighted in bold, is what people use in an arguement when they throw in the towel

[Facts and Stats]

Owen's peak (fame wise was a goal v Argentina). Wasn't he 17?

Why was Swansea's first equaliser disallowed BTW? Did Fergie ask for a foul that want really there?

[Litmanen]

Love the hate towards United keep it up lads

No its just that you cannot actually construct an argument.

What ive highlighted in bold, is what people use in an arguement when they throw in the towel

Is that why you've highlighted it? because it seems like you gave up a while ago.

[Nice One Cyril]

No its just that you cannot actually construct an argument.

What ive highlighted in bold, is what people use in an arguement when they throw in the towel

Is that why you've highlighted it? because it seems like you gave up a while ago.

As an ex-Goon, RVP is not top of my favourites, nor are Man United, but you've got to admit it, whether or not it was intentional, it was a cuntish thing to do by Williams after the whistle had gone. RVP would have been fully justified in landing him one.

[Litmanen]

^^

I agree, i would have reacted that way too, does that make it right though?

Also if it wasn't intentional, then it wasn't a cuntish thing to do, in that case, it was an accident. As ive said elsewhere, RVP got sent off for kicking a ball in frustration against Barca ( claiming he couldn't hear the ref, even though instead of running at the keeper he wiffed a shot on his wrong foot from an angle), so the kick in frustration shouldn't be the criticism, players do it all the time.

[Nice One Cyril]

^^

I agree, i would have reacted that way too, does that make it right though?

Also if it wasn't intentional, then it wasn't a cuntish thing to do, in that case, it was an accident. As ive said elsewhere, RVP got sent off for kicking a ball in frustration against Barca ( claiming he couldn't hear the ref, even though instead of running at the keeper he wiffed a shot on his wrong foot from an angle), so the kick in frustration shouldn't be the criticism, players do it all the time.

I'm pretty sure it was accidental, Williams is just a wank defender who can't kick straight and the over-reaction from Baconface was merely because they dropped points. Had it happened in open play, nobody would have said anything, it's just because it was after the whistle. I assume Williams got booked for kicking the ball away, not because it happened to hit Van Pansy?

[Le King]

Manutd does not buy stars. manutd produce stars. and selling to big clubs who demand big players like beckham,nistelrooy,ronaldo. in the last 5 years the club has spent about just 36 million to buy new players. whereas mancity have spent around 10 times more.manutd plays classy football.encouraging young players.players whose names u havent heard before and promising rising stars. manutd play deir own game. de play tactics.de chnge tactis. innovate on the pitch itself.the try to rerieve the ball anyhow. just sumtyms experience is wer de lack against experienced clubs and experienced clubs.bt this new team offers lots of promises.very talented sqaud. 2 more years and big clubs will hunt players from manutd again!

nice fairytale bro, De Gea (18.9m), Young (17m), Jones (17m), RVP (24m), Kagawa (12m) all say hi in the past 2 seasons alone.

Infact, United outspent City in the off season.........

Based at the club's Carrington training ground, United's youth academy produces more players for England's top five leagues than any other. In fact, United was ranked fifth in a recent study of Europe's most productive youth setups -- only Barcelona, Lyon, Real Madrid and Stade Rennais were ranked higher -- developing 24 players for Europe's "Big 5" divisions.


Nahhhhh, they don't produce players.....

[Nice One Cyril]

Manutd does not buy stars. manutd produce stars. and selling to big clubs who demand big players like beckham,nistelrooy,ronaldo. in the last 5 years the club has spent about just 36 million to buy new players. whereas mancity have spent around 10 times more.manutd plays classy football.encouraging young players.players whose names u havent heard before and promising rising stars. manutd play deir own game. de play tactics.de chnge tactis. innovate on the pitch itself.the try to rerieve the ball anyhow. just sumtyms experience is wer de lack against experienced clubs and experienced clubs.bt this new team offers lots of promises.very talented sqaud. 2 more years and big clubs will hunt players from manutd again!

nice fairytale bro, De Gea (18.9m), Young (17m), Jones (17m), RVP (24m), Kagawa (12m) all say hi in the past 2 seasons alone.

Infact, United outspent City in the off season.........

Based at the club's Carrington training ground, United's youth academy produces more players for England's top five leagues than any other. In fact, United was ranked fifth in a recent study of Europe's most productive youth setups -- only Barcelona, Lyon, Real Madrid and Stade Rennais were ranked higher -- developing 24 players for Europe's "Big 5" divisions.


Nahhhhh, they don't produce players.....

Which of those are in your first team squad?

[Le King]

You can work that out yourself if you are really interested. The argument was that United don't produce players. This article states they certainly do. More than any other team in England

[Nice One Cyril]

You can work that out yourself if you are really interested. The argument was that United don't produce players. This article states they certainly do. More than any other team in England

Damn lies and statistics.

Every EPL team produces players for the top 5 leagues simply because they take the best players at 10 or 11 (or younger) and only perhaps less than 5% will make it to EPL standard. The rest, which is a lot of players, end up at the lower levels, most of them below Chumpionship level. You can hardly claim to have 'produced' a player for Dagenham & Redbridge.

[Facts and Stats]

Out of the current Utd team, hardly any home grown players.

Last league game, Giggs was the only one who has been at utd all his career. Evans you can possibly have as you git him pretty young as well.

So one could say that you aren't producing too much?

[Nice One Cyril]

Don't forget they produced Zeki Fryers for Tottenham

[Le King]

Don't forget they produced Zeki Fryers for Tottenham

[Jimbob]

Out of the current Utd team, hardly any home grown players.

Last league game, Giggs was the only one who has been at utd all his career. Evans you can possibly have as you git him pretty young as well.

So one could say that you aren't producing too much?

Ey? Ryan Giggs, Paul Scholes, Darren Fletcher, Jonny Evans, Tom Cleverley, Danny Welbeck, the Da Silva twins all currently playing in the first team squad.

The simple fact is that United have the best youth set up in England and produce the most players for their first team.

You only deal in facts right?

[Facts and Stats]

Last league game I mentioned.

Did Scholes play?
Was Evans signed from a Belfast club - admittedly at a young age so I included him
Didn't I mention Giggs?
Doesn't Cleverly's move from Bradford to Utd count?

Facts are facts

I could name many Liverpool players who are in the squad but don't play every game too, just like you did.

[Jimbob]

Sorry I forgot about the rule where they had to have played in the last league game. My mistake, whoops!

All the players mentioned are first team regulars. It is also a hell of a lot harder to break into the United first team than it is to make Liverpool's.

[Nice One Cyril]

Out of the current Utd team, hardly any home grown players.

Last league game, Giggs was the only one who has been at utd all his career. Evans you can possibly have as you git him pretty young as well.

So one could say that you aren't producing too much?

Ey? Ryan Giggs, Paul Scholes, Darren Fletcher, Jonny Evans, Tom Cleverley, Danny Welbeck, the Da Silva twins all currently playing in the first team squad.

The simple fact is that United have the best youth set up in England and produce the most players for their first team.

You only deal in facts right?

The Da Silvas were in Brazil until they were 18. How did you 'develop' them? A little polish maybe, but that's all.

[Facts and Stats]

Why is it harder to get to Utd's, do you play five aside and not eleven?

NOC, UTD fans don't know their players, you should know that by now. They need us to educate them.

[Jimbob]

Why is it harder to get to Utd's, do you play five aside and not eleven?

NOC, UTD fans don't know their players, you should know that by now. They need us to educate them.

Because our team is much better than yours, has been for about 20 years. We challenge for major trophies every season.

[Facts and Stats]

But your squad size would be the same as ours. So it will be just as tough to get into our team as yours. If we are no good, it follows our reserves and youth won't be as good either, so you just drop a level, doesn't make competition for places any easier.

I won't say using your logic, as you have none.

I suggests you carry on reading up where you signed your players from....

[Nice One Cyril]

But your squad size would be the same as ours. So it will be just as tough to get into our team as yours. If we are no good, it follows our reserves and youth won't be as good either, so you just drop a level, doesn't make competition for places any easier.

I won't say using your logic, as you have none.

I suggests you carry on reading up where you signed your players from....

The simple fact is that United have the best youth set up in England and produce the most players for their first team.

And this is wrong as well. Stands to reason that the lower level clubs (and some in the EPL like Southampton, West Ham) would produce more homegrown players, for the simple reason that they cannot afford to do anything else.

[Jimbob]

But your squad size would be the same as ours. So it will be just as tough to get into our team as yours. If we are no good, it follows our reserves and youth won't be as good either, so you just drop a level, doesn't make competition for places any easier.

I won't say using your logic, as you have none.

I suggests you carry on reading up where you signed your players from....

No, it is harder to break into the United first team as the standard is a lot higher than it is at Liverpool. Competition for places will be hard at Liverpool as well yes but the standard is nowhere the same as what it is at United.

[Jimbob]

The simple fact is that United have the best youth set up in England and produce the most players for their first team.

And this is wrong as well. Stands to reason that the lower level clubs (and some in the EPL like Southampton, West Ham) would produce more homegrown players, for the simple reason that they cannot afford to do anything else.

And this is why it is so impressive that United keep producing the players that they do that reach the first team. The standard they have to reach is so much higher than that of clubs like Southampton, Villa and Liverpool etc.

[Nice One Cyril]

The simple fact is that United have the best youth set up in England and produce the most players for their first team.

And this is wrong as well. Stands to reason that the lower level clubs (and some in the EPL like Southampton, West Ham) would produce more homegrown players, for the simple reason that they cannot afford to do anything else.

And this is why it is so impressive that United keep producing the players that they do that reach the first team. The standard they have to reach is so much higher than that of clubs like Southampton, Villa and Liverpool etc.

Although true, it's just more obvious logic. They take the best young kids into their academy at age 10 or so, and probably can afford to take more of them. It's a numbers game.

[Le King]

Why is everyone saying United don't produce players? They produce more than any other clubs in England. Too much jealousy

[Facts and Stats]

its bollox Le King, not jealousy, teams like Crewe (in the 90s), and Southampton are producing the best players.

I am not convinced by him yet, but the latest great youngster is Sterling, from QPR.

Who was the last great young thing UTD produced?

ALL your best players in the past 10 years have been bought!!

Liverpool have produced Owen, Carragher and Gerrard.

Since UTD's golden era of youngsters they haven't produced a top quality world class player, Carragher was never World class I acknowledge that.

[Jimbob]

its bollox Le King, not jealousy, teams like Crewe (in the 90s), and Southampton are producing the best players.

I am not convinced by him yet, but the latest great youngster is Sterling, from QPR.

Who was the last great young thing UTD produced?

ALL your best players in the past 10 years have been bought!!

Liverpool have produced Owen, Carragher and Gerrard.

Since UTD's golden era of youngsters they haven't produced a top quality world class player, Carragher was never World class I acknowledge that.

So basically just Gerrard and Owen yeah in the past 20 years, if we're talking world class players?

[Nice One Cyril]

its bollox Le King, not jealousy, teams like Crewe (in the 90s), and Southampton are producing the best players.

I am not convinced by him yet, but the latest great youngster is Sterling, from QPR.

Who was the last great young thing UTD produced?

ALL your best players in the past 10 years have been bought!!

Liverpool have produced Owen, Carragher and Gerrard.

Since UTD's golden era of youngsters they haven't produced a top quality world class player, Carragher was never World class I acknowledge that.

So basically just Gerrard and Owen yeah in the past 20 years, if we're talking world class players?

I don't want to intrude too much in your North of Watford slanging match, but a question. Do United, or Liverpool for that matter, sponsor, run or otherwise assist any of the local junior (6-12) sides?

[Facts and Stats]

Liverpool have their own academy.

And Jimbob I am not going to get into a world class debate, but Fowler, McMannaman weren't too shabby were they?

[Nice One Cyril]

Liverpool have their own academy.

And Jimbob I am not going to get into a world class debate, but Fowler, McMannaman weren't too shabby were they?

All clubs have their own academy.