El Diego wrote:I actually was interested, cos I havent seen him play and was wondering how good he is??
No jokes or malice, mate
but, u need to go down a level with ur sarcasm.....
So you're deriding my comment that he is the best signing of the season, without ever actually knowing what he has done this season for Lazio?
I know what Cavani has done for Napoli this season, I've watched him play, and there is no doubt he has been a gun... a lot more than what I expected considering how inconsistent he was at Palermo.
Cavanis impact on Napoli however has not been as great as Hernanes's impact for Lazio. Last season Lazio finished in the bottom half because we had no midfield, this season we are int he top 4 because of not only Hernanes contribution in the midfield but his influence to raise the whole teams level.
Thus Hernanes is the best signing.
No sarcasm there.
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El Diego wrote:I actually was interested, cos I havent seen him play and was wondering how good he is??
No jokes or malice, mate
but, u need to go down a level with ur sarcasm.....
So you're deriding my comment that he is the best signing of the season, without ever actually knowing what he has done this season for Lazio?
I know what Cavani has done for Napoli this season, I've watched him play, and there is no doubt he has been a gun... a lot more than what I expected considering how inconsistent he was at Palermo.
Cavanis impact on Napoli however has not been as great as Hernanes's impact for Lazio. Last season Lazio finished in the bottom half because we had no midfield, this season we are int he top 4 because of not only Hernanes contribution in the midfield but his influence on raise the whole teams level.
Thus Hernanes is the best signing.
No sarcasm there.
once again, I wasnt having a go at Hernanes, but No I havent seen him play much at all.
But I know u, bein a die-hard laziale, U prob think that Zarate is the best striker in serie a!
neways I still think IMO that Cavani is the better signing!
El Diego wrote:
once again, I wasnt having a go at Hernanes, but No I havent seen him play much at all.
But I know u, bein a die-hard laziale, U prob think that Zarate is the best striker in serie a!
neways I still think IMO that Cavani is the better signing!
Where did I say you were having a go? Who cares if you were? Just exposing the flaws in your argument about the best signing in Serie A this season considering you haven't even taken your blinkers off to see that there are other players doing extremely well for other clubs.
But at least you're good at making assumptions...
Ibra is quite easily the best striker in Serie A.
At his best Zarate is at least better than Lavezzi, unfortunately Zarate kid needs to get his head out of his ass and actually put together some consistent performances. At least he buried you guys this season.
Lefty, let's not forget the difference ledesma being available to play has made either. For whatever reasons you like, he was frozen out of the squad for most the season & imho he too has helped the cause & and the same time allowed hernanes to thrive.
Having said this I'm smart enough to know that cavani too profits greatly from the good work of lavezzi and hamsik.
getborn wrote:Lefty, let's not forget the difference ledesma being available to play has made either. For whatever reasons you like, he was frozen out of the squad for most the season & imho he too has helped the cause & and the same time allowed hernanes to thrive.
Having said this I'm smart enough to know that cavani too profits greatly from the good work of lavezzi and hamsik.
Good points. Whatever the reasons were, he didn't deserve to be frozen out last year. He has probably done a lot more grunt work now that Hernanes is the main creator.
Ledesma still hasn't reached the heights of a couple of seasons ago albeit in a diferrent role. I was referring to the fact that Brocchi and Mauri in particular have become almost top class players just by having Hernanes with them in midfield.
Thus Hernanes has a multiplier effect on the squad around him, where as I think Cavani has profited from those around as opposed to influencing their play. The likes of Lavezzi were playing well without him last season. Thats not to diminish his impact, 17 goals in 23 games is outstanding and easily in the top 3 transfers of the season in Serie A.
Having said all that, I think if Pazzini can lead Inter to top 2 and even a scudetto challenge, he will trump them all.
getborn wrote:Lefty, let's not forget the difference ledesma being available to play has made either. For whatever reasons you like, he was frozen out of the squad for most the season & imho he too has helped the cause & and the same time allowed hernanes to thrive.
Having said this I'm smart enough to know that cavani too profits greatly from the good work of lavezzi and hamsik.
Good points. Whatever the reasons were, he didn't deserve to be frozen out last year. He has probably done a lot more grunt work now that Hernanes is the main creator.
Ledesma still hasn't reached the heights of a couple of seasons ago albeit in a diferrent role. I was referring to the fact that Brocchi and Mauri in particular have become almost top class players just by having Hernanes with them in midfield.
Thus Hernanes has a multiplier effect on the squad around him, where as I think Cavani has profited from those around as opposed to influencing their play. The likes of Lavezzi were playing well without him last season. Thats not to diminish his impact, 17 goals in 23 games is outstanding and easily in the top 3 transfers of the season in Serie A.
Having said all that, I think if Pazzini can lead Inter to top 2 and even a scudetto challenge, he will trump them all.
for me Milan, Inter & Roma will make up the top three, not necessarily in that order.
4th spot is anyones but dont be suprised if Palermo sneak it.
Juve? id love to say there gone but you just never know.
getborn wrote:for me Milan, Inter & Roma will make up the top three, not necessarily in that order.
4th spot is anyones but dont be suprised if Palermo sneak it.
Juve? id love to say there gone but you just never know.
Agree on the first two, but really, if teams stay at their current level how do you think rioma is going to leap frog both Lazio and Napoli? Lazio and Napoli have played a lot better football than all the teams below them and it's a shame the likes of rioma and Juve are still within distance, they simply don't deseve to be.
Inter are way too strong to not finish top 2. With Pazzini now on the books and already scoring for fun, they still have a Scudetto challenge in them.
El Diego wrote:
once again, I wasnt having a go at Hernanes, but No I havent seen him play much at all.
But I know u, bein a die-hard laziale, U prob think that Zarate is the best striker in serie a!
neways I still think IMO that Cavani is the better signing!
Where did I say you were having a go? Who cares if you were? Just exposing the flaws in your argument about the best signing in Serie A this season considering you haven't even taken your blinkers off to see that there are other players doing extremely well for other clubs.
But at least you're good at making assumptions...
Ibra is quite easily the best striker in Serie A.
At his best Zarate is at least better than Lavezzi, unfortunately Zarate kid needs to get his head out of his ass and actually put together some consistent performances. At least he buried you guys this season.
once again, ur wrong
I only have compared Hernanes to Cavani, I havent said anything about other signings in Serie A. But, how can u compare an attack midfielder to a striker??? And I still believe Cavani has been more influential to Napoli than Hernanes has been to Lazio.
But, I agree with U, Ibra is the BEST striker in Serie A
And Could Lazio's stellar season be down to the coach, Reja???
getborn wrote:for me Milan, Inter & Roma will make up the top three, not necessarily in that order.
4th spot is anyones but dont be suprised if Palermo sneak it.
Juve? id love to say there gone but you just never know.
Agree on the first two, but really, if teams stay at their current level how do you think rioma is going to leap frog both Lazio and Napoli? Lazio and Napoli have played a lot better football than all the teams below them and it's a shame the likes of rioma and Juve are still within distance, they simply don't deseve to be.
Inter are way too strong to not finish top 2. With Pazzini now on the books and already scoring for fun, they still have a Scudetto challenge in them.
With Inters away win this morni (our time) and Pazzini on score sheet, ythey have moved to 41pts, 2 behind Napoli and still have a game in hand.
I think Inter will challenge Milan for the scudetto, but hopefully they will drop pts home to roma, Lazio and away to juve, fiorentina, samp & milan
El Diego wrote:once again, ur wrong
I only have compared Hernanes to Cavani, I havent said anything about other signings in Serie A. But, how can u compare an attack midfielder to a striker??? And I still believe Cavani has been more influential to Napoli than Hernanes has been to Lazio.
But, I agree with U, Ibra is the BEST striker in Serie A
And Could Lazio's stellar season be down to the coach, Reja???
L O L you're a
As I said Hernanes has influenced those around him to play better, Cavani has profited from those around him to score the goals he has. Hernanes has had more influence on his team and thus is the better signing (Lazio from bottom half to top 4 entirely because of our midfield strength). If you haven't picked up on that yet, then you got no hope... just keep watching Napoli games only and pretending to know about other teams
Yea Reja has done really well for us, although if Ballardini got the same backing as he did, I think we would of still done well.
El Diego wrote:once again, ur wrong
I only have compared Hernanes to Cavani, I havent said anything about other signings in Serie A. But, how can u compare an attack midfielder to a striker??? And I still believe Cavani has been more influential to Napoli than Hernanes has been to Lazio.
But, I agree with U, Ibra is the BEST striker in Serie A
And Could Lazio's stellar season be down to the coach, Reja???
L O L you're a
As I said Hernanes has influenced those around him to play better, Cavani has profited from those around him to score the goals he has. Hernanes has had more influence on his team and thus is the better signing (Lazio from bottom half to top 4 entirely because of our midfield strength). If you haven't picked up on that yet, then you got no hope... just keep watching Napoli games only and pretending to know about other teams
Yea Reja has done really well for us, although if Ballardini got the same backing as he did, I think we would of still done well.
Ok, we agree to disagree!
But, resorting to name calling just makes u out to be a child really. But once put into a debate, u just crumble and resort to calling me a clown, fair enough, if thats ur persona!
neways, I will continue watching Napoli games, as being a Nap myself.
And hopefully when our team plays each other again, we can even the ledger.
reja is a good coach, was upset he left Napoli, but the team wasnt playing well under him....
The change of date seemed to affect top clubs, as there were a series of surprises for the leading pack in Week 23
The midweek round started with leaders Milan dropping points and rattling the woodwork against a Lazio side set out to defend. It opened the door for the chasing sides to close the gap, but most fumbled that opportunity with some surprising results.
Napoli could’ve taken themselves to within two points of Max Allegri’s men, but Chievo confirmed their status as the bête noir of the Partenopei. The Flying Donkeys also won 3-1 at the San Paolo earlier this season and again their counter-attacking tactics tore into a side that sorely missed the suspended Ezequiel Lavezzi. It wasn’t just quantity vs. quality, though, as Davide Moscardelli and Gennaro Sardo scored sensational goals.
Roma were in the perfect position to get themselves back in the Scudetto race, but were horribly inconsistent against a hard-working Brescia on the return of Coach Beppe Iachini. Perhaps they thought that relying on a strong home record was enough and forgot their 2-1 defeat at Brescia back in September. If it weren’t for Julio Sergio’s saves on Davide Lanzafame in the final stages, the Rondinelle would’ve taken a full six points off them this season.
Instead, only Inter climbed the table to third place despite a poor performance at the San Nicola. The 3-0 win over Bari is extremely flattering to Leonardo’s men, who seemed toothless despite fielding Giampaolo Pazzini, Diego Milito and Samuel Eto’o from the start. Cristian Chivu almost threw that away too, but fortunately for him the shocking punch on Marco Rossi’s face was not spotted by the referee. He is, however, bound to be suspended for the showdown against his old club Roma.
The most predictable of the ‘surprise’ results in Week 23 saw Juventus crumble in Sicily. Palermo are on spectacular home form and were unlucky to lose at Inter on Sunday, while Gigi Del Neri threw Alessandro Matri and Leonardo Bonucci into the mix through sheer lack of alternatives. Perhaps the biggest shock was that it turned out to be so close amid controversy over Cesare Bovo’s blatant handling offence, as the Bianconeri slide to eighth place.
Even the on-form Udinese couldn’t escape the slew of upsets on Wednesday night, as Marco Di Vaio earned Bologna a point at the Stadio Friuli. Javier Chevanton came off the bench to grab a thoroughly undeserved Lecce victory after Parma had toothlessly dominated for 90 minutes and a magnificent Radja Nainggolan solo effort doomed the dismantled Sampdoria.
Fiorentina finally broke their disastrous run by seeing off Genoa amid protests from the Stadio Franchi crowd. It took another howler from Eduardo to hand it to them, though, and we may well have seen the last of the Portuguese goalkeeper. At the bottom Cesena and Catania kept each other on track with a point apiece.
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Lazio have not conquered Milan away in Serie A since a 1-0 result on September 3 1989, managing just eight draws and 13 defeats here, but this was the first 0-0 in this fixture for 15 years.
The Biancocelesti are without an away victory since the 1-0 in Palermo on October 31, followed by four defeats and three draws in all competition.
Juventus had not lost three on the trot in all competition since March. The Bianconeri have now suffered three consecutive defeats against Palermo, home and away.
Palermo have won their last seven Serie A games on home turf, while that run stretches to 10 including the Cup ties.
Inter are undefeated at the Stadio San Nicola since December 19 1999, when Antonio Cassano scored his debut Serie A goal in a 2-1 result. The Nerazzurri have picked up an extra 12 points this season by scoring second half goals.
Bari fell to a sixth consecutive defeat including the Coppa Italia, during which they’ve scored two goals and conceded 14. The Galletti haven’t won on home turf in nine outings, managing just two draws.
Chievo stretched their unbeaten run to five rounds, while they have kept a home clean sheet for 329 minutes of football. Only Napoli had a stronger current record with 415 minutes, as Thiago Motta was the last to score against Morgan De Sanctis on January 6. Davide Moscardelli netted his fifth Serie A goal in this, his debut season, and the team is unbeaten when he hits the target. Gennaro Sardo’s fifth top flight goal was his first since a 2-0 win at Fiorentina on April 25 2010.
Napoli have lost two of their last three away matches and were also beaten by Chievo at the San Paolo earlier this season, by a 3-1 scoreline. The Partenopei hadn’t even conceded in Serie A for 413 minutes of football.
Lecce hadn’t conquered the Tardini since a 1-0 result on December 16 1984, followed by four draws and seven losses between Serie A and B. The Salentini extend their unbeaten run to five rounds and three on their travels.
Udinese have won nine and drawn two of their last 11 Stadio Friuli official outings. They have notched up 14 points in the last seven rounds – better than any other club in this period.
Marco Di Vaio has caught Andriy Shevchenko in the all-time charts with 127 Serie A goals and is now just one shy of Gianni Rivera’s record. Udinese are his favourite target, as he has netted against them nine times.
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El Diego wrote:once again, ur wrong
I only have compared Hernanes to Cavani, I havent said anything about other signings in Serie A. But, how can u compare an attack midfielder to a striker??? And I still believe Cavani has been more influential to Napoli than Hernanes has been to Lazio.
But, I agree with U, Ibra is the BEST striker in Serie A
And Could Lazio's stellar season be down to the coach, Reja???
L O L you're a
As I said Hernanes has influenced those around him to play better, Cavani has profited from those around him to score the goals he has. Hernanes has had more influence on his team and thus is the better signing (Lazio from bottom half to top 4 entirely because of our midfield strength). If you haven't picked up on that yet, then you got no hope... just keep watching Napoli games only and pretending to know about other teams
Yea Reja has done really well for us, although if Ballardini got the same backing as he did, I think we would of still done well.
Ok, we agree to disagree!
But, resorting to name calling just makes u out to be a child really. But once put into a debate, u just crumble and resort to calling me a clown, fair enough, if thats ur persona!
neways, I will continue watching Napoli games, as being a Nap myself.
And hopefully when our team plays each other again, we can even the ledger.
reja is a good coach, was upset he left Napoli, but the team wasnt playing well under him....
I presented my argument, that is based on seeing both players and following both teams progress... your argument is based soley on tossing over Cavani Napoli and you never addressed the points I raised. Your view is blinkered, thus you're a
Maybe broaden your horizon's a bit and you might learn something about football.
Inter will win the scudetto
Lazio wont make the top 4
Lavezzi is a much better player than zarate, and is a very big reason why they are sitting 2nd
The signings of Cavani and Hernanes are hard to judge whos better as both teams were in a different place at the end of last season, Napoli were solid already, they just needed a 20+ goal scorer and jagged one with this signing (noone can tell me they thought he would come out banging them in everyweek like he is), and Hernanes has been the difference in the style of lazios play which has seen them move up half a table, whether they stay there time will tell.
Eduardo Caroccio wrote:Coming from a Juve supporter
Inter will win the scudetto
Lazio wont make the top 4
Lavezzi is a much better player than zarate, and is a very big reason why they are sitting 2nd
The signings of Cavani and Hernanes are hard to judge whos better as both teams were in a different place at the end of last season, Napoli were solid already, they just needed a 20+ goal scorer and jagged one with this signing (noone can tell me they thought he would come out banging them in everyweek like he is), and Hernanes has been the difference in the style of lazios play which has seen them move up half a table, whether they stay there time will tell.
agree!
Cavani has scored 17 out of 22 games in Serie A making him the leading goalscorer and 24 goals in all comps.
Thats awesome, considering Napoli last year had hamsik scoring 12 and quaglia on 11 in serie a.
No doubt Lavezzi and hamsik are providing more oppurtunities to Cavani allowing him to score more, but he has banged in a few, and hopefully continues to do so.
Yeah I think Milan and Inter will contest the Scudetto this year, Milan are playing well, and inter are starting to get the results!
El Diego wrote:Ps, im off to the circus, gotta go get my facepaint done!
no need for rolling your eyes... this the first correct statement you have made in this thread.
El Diego you admit to not knowing nothing about Lazio, nor having watched them, yet we are 2 points and 1 place behind Napoli in the top 4. But you talk as if you know what your talking about... when, I repeat, you don't even know what Lazio have been doing this season. Boraden your horizons and learn something about football
Maybe El Diego and Eduardo can get a room?
Lazio won't finish in the top half of the table?! Have you actually watched Lazio play this season?
Lazio will finish top half of the table probably top 7, but what i said was that hernanes has been the difference from getting you from where you were last year to where you are now...time will tell if you can hold onto a top 4 spot...me personally i think not but i suppose we`ll see.
and as for me and el diego getting a room...very mature!
El Diego since you dont know nothing about Lazio heres an insight -
Lazio's colours of white and sky blue were inspired by the national emblem of Greece, due to the fact that Lazio is a mixed sports club this was chosen in recognition of the fact that the Ancient Olympic Games and along with it the sporting tradition in Europe is linked to Greece.
Originally Lazio wore a shirt which was divided into white and sky blue quarters, with black shorts and socks.After a while of wearing a plain white shirt very early on, Lazio reverted to the colours which they wear today.Some seasons Lazio have used a sky blue and white shirt with stripes, but usually it is sky blue with a white trim, with the white shorts and socks.The club's colours have led to their Italian nickname of biancocelesti.
Lazio's traditional club badge and symbol is the eagle, which was chosen by founding member Luigi Bigiarelli. It is an acknowledgment to the emblem of the ellenic Zeus (the god of sky and thunder in Greek mythology) commonly known as the Aquila; Lazio's use of the symbol has led to two of their nicknames; le Aquile (the Eagles) and Aquilotti (Young Eagles). The current club badge features a golden eagle above a white shield with a blue border; inside the shield is the club's name and a smaller tripartite shield with the colours of the club.
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Blue Mastiff wrote:i think we should be comparing hernanes with hamsik but we wont go there.
When talking about the signing of the 2011 season, why would Hamsik come into it? We are comparing which players have had the greatest influence on their clubs who were transferred this season. And that is undoubtedly Hernanes.
Hamsik is a star though... should move to a bigger club pretty soon.
Blue Mastiff wrote:El Diego since you dont know nothing about Lazio heres an insight -
Lazio's colours of white and sky blue were inspired by the national emblem of Greece, due to the fact that Lazio is a mixed sports club this was chosen in recognition of the fact that the Ancient Olympic Games and along with it the sporting tradition in Europe is linked to Greece.
Originally Lazio wore a shirt which was divided into white and sky blue quarters, with black shorts and socks.After a while of wearing a plain white shirt very early on, Lazio reverted to the colours which they wear today.Some seasons Lazio have used a sky blue and white shirt with stripes, but usually it is sky blue with a white trim, with the white shorts and socks.The club's colours have led to their Italian nickname of biancocelesti.
Lazio's traditional club badge and symbol is the eagle, which was chosen by founding member Luigi Bigiarelli. It is an acknowledgment to the emblem of the ellenic Zeus (the god of sky and thunder in Greek mythology) commonly known as the Aquila; Lazio's use of the symbol has led to two of their nicknames; le Aquile (the Eagles) and Aquilotti (Young Eagles). The current club badge features a golden eagle above a white shield with a blue border; inside the shield is the club's name and a smaller tripartite shield with the colours of the club.
wow, thanx paesan
however, can u explain to me why theres lazio and Roma football clubs???
Blue Mastiff wrote:El Diego since you dont know nothing about Lazio heres an insight -
Lazio's colours of white and sky blue were inspired by the national emblem of Greece, due to the fact that Lazio is a mixed sports club this was chosen in recognition of the fact that the Ancient Olympic Games and along with it the sporting tradition in Europe is linked to Greece.
Originally Lazio wore a shirt which was divided into white and sky blue quarters, with black shorts and socks.After a while of wearing a plain white shirt very early on, Lazio reverted to the colours which they wear today.Some seasons Lazio have used a sky blue and white shirt with stripes, but usually it is sky blue with a white trim, with the white shorts and socks.The club's colours have led to their Italian nickname of biancocelesti.
Lazio's traditional club badge and symbol is the eagle, which was chosen by founding member Luigi Bigiarelli. It is an acknowledgment to the emblem of the ellenic Zeus (the god of sky and thunder in Greek mythology) commonly known as the Aquila; Lazio's use of the symbol has led to two of their nicknames; le Aquile (the Eagles) and Aquilotti (Young Eagles). The current club badge features a golden eagle above a white shield with a blue border; inside the shield is the club's name and a smaller tripartite shield with the colours of the club.
wow, thanx paesan
however, can u explain to me why theres lazio and Roma football clubs???
Thanx
How good is it that in a thread about Napoli, you're getting taught lessons about Lazio? You should truly be grateful.
