2016 JPL Division 1

[Mrs Red]

10-13 skill acquisition phase
14-17 game training phase

Appears the FFSA could be aligning it to this.

ATM the U10/11/12's are in zone's basically - so with this change it would seem that some teams in these age groups could be travelling more.

[Sven]

Its reinforcing the strength of the major clubs and making the other clubs second class citizens.

There is no specific link to the Skill Acquisition Phase and Game Training Phase other than the changes impact upon those age groups. To say the proposed changes are to reflect those phases is spin doctoring at its best.

Its becoming a mess and reflects poorly on the quality of the decision makers at the FFSA.

[Mrs Red]

Nothing concrete has actually been put to clubs at this stage so its all unclear atm - I wonder what the role of the junior advisory group is in all this.

[Mrs Red]

Changing the U10 to U13 age groups and leaving the U14 to U17 age groups as is.

Can you elaborate on how you know this, when nothing has been put to the clubs yet??

[themessenger]

10-13 skill acquisition phase
14-17 game training phase

Appears the FFSA could be aligning it to this.

ATM the U10/11/12's are in zone's basically - so with this change it would seem that some teams in these age groups could be travelling more.

Sorry don't understand what this means. Are juniors and seniors no longer to be aligned?

What do you mean by the FFSA aligning 10-13s to skill acquisition phase?

[Mrs Red]

10-13 skill acquisition phase
14-17 game training phase

Appears the FFSA could be aligning it to this.

ATM the U10/11/12's are in zone's basically - so with this change it would seem that some teams in these age groups could be travelling more.

Sorry don't understand what this means. Are juniors and seniors no longer to be aligned?

What do you mean by the FFSA aligning 10-13s to skill acquisition phase?

What sven I believe was saying is that the FFSA is looking to have having the U10-13 aligned to the seniors and the U14-17 will be as it currently is, in division's. And I was just giving a suggestion as to why they would be doing that. ie U10-13 is about skills and not the results and the U14-17 is more about the game which is more game/result focused. I assume the U6-9 will be a more of a zone set up as it currently is.
As I stated this could be what they are thinking. Time will tell I suppose.

[blue moon]

any updates on whats happening 2016?

[ikon]

the bigger clubs will determine how this goes........

[lefty]

Under 6-9 SSG to be zone based as it currently stands
Under 10-13 to follow their senior teams NPL & State Leagues
Under 14-17 promotion & relegation as it currently stands

I think its a transitional structure to appease the State League clubs not NPL.

[paul merson]

the bigger clubs will determine how this goes........

Didn't we used to follow the seniors back when we played juniors?

[ikon]

the bigger clubs will determine how this goes........

Didn't we used to follow the seniors back when we played juniors?

Yes and results didn't matter.

[Rehagel's Assistant]

the bigger clubs will determine how this goes........

Didn't we used to follow the seniors back when we played juniors?

Yes and results didn't matter.

Need to appease the minority.

[paul merson]

the bigger clubs will determine how this goes........

Didn't we used to follow the seniors back when we played juniors?

Yes and results didn't matter.

Results didn't matter? I cant remember that bit, I remember us apparently playing for sheep stations but I do remember us following the seniors, so I don't see what the big fuss is now with going back to that.

[ikon]

I meant - we weren't playing for promotion / relegation so results didn't matter....

Unless you were combatative beasts like us that had to win everything , every year

[Dalziel]

hi just to clarify the numbers

U13 A JPL x 10 teams x 16 player 160players
U13 B JPL X 8 teams x 16 players 128players
U13 C JPL X 8 teams x 16 players 128players

Total U13 JPL spots available in 2015 416


2016 if the new system is introduced
12 teams x 16 players 192

So next year the 400 plus players that are playing in u13 jpl in 2015 will need to fit into 192 spots in the u14jpl in 2016, A lot of them will be playing JSL

It's just a name. We will still have 6 leagues.

JPL (old JPL A)
State League (old JPL B)
State League 1 (old JPL C)
FFSA Junior League red (old JSL Red)
FFSA Junior League blue (old JSL Blue)
FFSA Junior League yellow (old JSL Yellow)

No kids will miss out.

At last someone works out what this all means - also re 'bigger' clubs, need to remember at junior level the clubs need to factor in their sponsors and committee and extended family kids playing so don't assume teams will be made up of the best of the best

[Mrs Red]

A little birdie has informed me that it was announced last night at the FFSA AGM that there will be NO changes to the junior structures for 2016.

Can anyone confirm this???

[magnet]

A little birdie has informed me that it was announced last night at the FFSA AGM that there will be NO changes to the junior structures for 2016.

Can anyone confirm this???

Probably been put into the FFSA too hard basket

[Nova]

A little birdie has informed me that it was announced last night at the FFSA AGM that there will be NO changes to the junior structures for 2016.

Can anyone confirm this???

Probably been put into the FFSA too hard basket

Big basket

[gee_kay]

lazy and incompetent ffsa

[Slide Tackle]

Current Junior system is working well, better to keep it the way it is

[Stich This]

A little birdie has informed me that it was announced last night at the FFSA AGM that there will be NO changes to the junior structures for 2016.

Can anyone confirm this???

Once they realised Raiders was in danger of relegation...

[Sacred Noodle]

A little birdie has informed me that it was announced last night at the FFSA AGM that there will be NO changes to the junior structures for 2016.

Can anyone confirm this???

Once they realised Raiders was in danger of relegation...

Exactly correct ..have spoken with others re this previously and prior to the start of this season .... have no doubt that if Raiders were not/hadn't of been in danger of relegation the structure alignment change would still be going ahead..

[betterahead]

A little birdie has informed me that it was announced last night at the FFSA AGM that there will be NO changes to the junior structures for 2016.

Can anyone confirm this???

Once they realised Raiders was in danger of relegation...

Exactly correct ..have spoken with others re this previously and prior to the start of this season .... have no doubt that if Raiders were not/hadn't of been in danger of relegation the structure alignment change would still be going ahead..

May well be the case. Will be interesting to find out the official line on this

[ikon]

I would start with 12's and 13's for next year. Its easy to implement....and gets rid of the current system which no-one can explain to me.


also 12 team leagues please.

[Mrs Red]

I would start with 12's and 13's for next year. Its easy to implement....and gets rid of the current system which no-one can explain to me.


also 12 team leagues please.

U12 age groups are zonal and the U13 age group divisions are based on where your team finished in the U12 age groups the year before.

[Pie and Bovril]

I would start with 12's and 13's for next year. Its easy to implement....and gets rid of the current system which no-one can explain to me.


also 12 team leagues please.

What don't you understand?

U12's is based on location zones.
U13's is based on where the U12 team finished to make a "competitive" environment

[Sacred Noodle]

I would start with 12's and 13's for next year. Its easy to implement....and gets rid of the current system which no-one can explain to me.


also 12 team leagues please.

U12 age groups are zonal and the U13 age group divisions are based on where your team finished in the U12 age groups the year before.

Am not familiar with the current U12 Zonal set up but know from about three years ago Raiders for example started being placed in the Central zone ..so while by terminology it may be a zonal set up in reality it is not ..FFSA make rules up to suit themselves.

Interestingly FFSA postponed the Girls NTC game yesterday due to some of the girls being sick ..yet would not allow our U15 team with not even 11 players available to do injury/sickness and rep duty to postpone our game ..surprise surprise we were playing FFSA State boys team!! Would not even allow us to change the KO time in order to bring in some U14 players!..we won the game 5-2 anyway so matters not however the different rules to suit FFSA is what the issue is..

[ikon]

I would start with 12's and 13's for next year. Its easy to implement....and gets rid of the current system which no-one can explain to me.


also 12 team leagues please.

What don't you understand?

How some clubs change location zones from year to year is what I don't understand.

If results really don't matter ,then lets do it.

[themessenger]

A little birdie has informed me that it was announced last night at the FFSA AGM that there will be NO changes to the junior structures for 2016.

Can anyone confirm this???

Once they realised Raiders was in danger of relegation...

Exactly correct ..have spoken with others re this previously and prior to the start of this season .... have no doubt that if Raiders were not/hadn't of been in danger of relegation the structure alignment change would still be going ahead..

What is the FFSA connection with Raiders?

[Sacred Noodle]

For starters .Alagich, Androli, Elvis, Cristiano all current or former Raiders people all currently employed by FFSA ..

Have no issue at all with those above ..and dont care re the proposed structures ..just noting more FFSA self interested activity.