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Re: Jurić’s proud message sparks unwarranted response

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:20 pm
by Stitch This
Knight15 wrote:Anyway the PC Brigade are going overtime if they are offended in anyway
I always thought it was a redneck thing.

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Re: Jurić’s proud message sparks unwarranted response

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:32 pm
by adelaidebloke
I don't think he should have done it regardless of what language it was in, I mean when Timmy scores I don't want him lifting his shirt and saying Gday Mum and DAD...It is just pointless, I mean call ya parents before and after the game, no need to be talking to them during via messages on T shirts.


After the game does Tomi communicate via T shirt message to his olds...I doubt it.

To me it isn't a race issue, its more im a pointless idiot making representing your country playing for the team and fans about my mum and dad and my personal messages.

clown!

Re: Jurić’s proud message sparks unwarranted response

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:40 pm
by gone
I saw it, had no idea what it said, and these were my thoughts:
1) hope it's not a political statement or it'll get bad press and a FIFA backlash
2) hope it doesn't turn off the mainstream supporters we're trying to convert
3) hope the idiot doesn't get a yellow card

I wasn't offended, just felt it was completely unnecessary, and quickly forgot it.
I would have thought everyone would have forgotten it by now if this website hadn't made up some pretend public outrage to push it's own political agenda.

Re: Jurić’s proud message sparks unwarranted response

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:30 am
by BruceLee
If he keeps scoring goals who cares. Honestly on the scale of things that matter this is minus 1000. If ange is ok with it then it's ok by me

I know we are all bored and want to say something about everything but cmon, talk about 1st world problems

You think it will turn potential supporters away. I think any supporter worth having will choose to focus on the fact that we may have a decent striker for the first time in years

Re: Jurić’s proud message sparks unwarranted response

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:50 am
by Stuckey
BruceLee wrote:If he keeps scoring goals who cares. Honestly on the scale of things that matter this is minus 1000. If ange is ok with it then it's ok by me

I know we are all bored and want to say something about everything but cmon, talk about 1st world problems

You think it will turn potential supporters away. I think any supporter worth having will choose to focus on the fact that we may have a decent striker for the first time in years
Says the bloke whinging that AU are in disrepute.

Re: Jurić’s proud message sparks unwarranted response

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 11:03 am
by Bomber
Stitch This wrote:
Knight15 wrote:Anyway the PC Brigade are going overtime if they are offended in anyway
I always thought it was a redneck thing.

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:lol:

Re: Jurić’s proud message sparks unwarranted response

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 11:46 am
by Cloister
That's just taking the pee.

Re: Jurić’s proud message sparks unwarranted response

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:11 pm
by GaylyColouredStumps
otto62 wrote:I saw it, had no idea what it said, and these were my thoughts:
.... hope it doesn't turn off the mainstream supporters we're trying to convert.
I was outraged.

I was watching the game with 5 mates that had never watched a football match before. 4 of them were die hard AFL supporters, whilst the other was a cricket tragic.

They were absolutely loving the game up until the juric celebration. They were talking about getting season tickets to AU for next season, so much did they love what they saw.

Then juric scored.

You could cut the atmosphere in the room with a knife. Put it this way, they are no longer getting the seasons passes. I'd be surprised if they even watch another game.

People don't realize there are consequences to their actions

Re: Jurić’s proud message sparks unwarranted response

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:41 pm
by Knight15
El Paso del Norte wrote:
otto62 wrote:I saw it, had no idea what it said, and these were my thoughts:
.... hope it doesn't turn off the mainstream supporters we're trying to convert.
I was outraged.

I was watching the game with 5 mates that had never watched a football match before. 4 of them were die hard AFL supporters, whilst the other was a cricket tragic.

They were absolutely loving the game up until the juric celebration. They were talking about getting season tickets to AU for next season, so much did they love what they saw.

Then juric scored.

You could cut the atmosphere in the room with a knife. Put it this way, they are no longer getting the seasons passes. I'd be surprised if they even watch another game.

People don't realize there are consequences to their actions

Wow I had an even worse experience I had a scientist friend over - he wasn't a big football fan but as the game progressed he became more and more impressed

He confided in me that he had just found a cure for cancer. He expected to raise over $16 billion dollars selling this cure around the world and due to the game he had decided to donate 80% of all proceeds that's 12.8 billion dollars to Football in this country

Then the Tom Juric outrage

He has decided to keep the cure for cancer to himself - mankind will not be saved and football misses out on almost $13 billion dollars

Your right people must realise that AFL supporters and scientists alike are very sensitive to these outrages

Re: Jurić’s proud message sparks unwarranted response

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:18 pm
by GaylyColouredStumps
Knight15 wrote:
El Paso del Norte wrote:
otto62 wrote:I saw it, had no idea what it said, and these were my thoughts:
.... hope it doesn't turn off the mainstream supporters we're trying to convert.
I was outraged.

I was watching the game with 5 mates that had never watched a football match before. 4 of them were die hard AFL supporters, whilst the other was a cricket tragic.

They were absolutely loving the game up until the juric celebration. They were talking about getting season tickets to AU for next season, so much did they love what they saw.

Then juric scored.

You could cut the atmosphere in the room with a knife. Put it this way, they are no longer getting the seasons passes. I'd be surprised if they even watch another game.

People don't realize there are consequences to their actions

Wow I had an even worse experience I had a scientist friend over - he wasn't a big football fan but as the game progressed he became more and more impressed

He confided in me that he had just found a cure for cancer. He expected to raise over $16 billion dollars selling this cure around the world and due to the game he had decided to donate 80% of all proceeds that's 12.8 billion dollars to Football in this country

Then the Tom Juric outrage

He has decided to keep the cure for cancer to himself - mankind will not be saved and football misses out on almost $13 billion dollars

Your right people must realise that AFL supporters and scientists alike are very sensitive to these outrages
Sadly, stories like ours are all too common

Re: Jurić’s proud message sparks unwarranted response

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 4:55 pm
by Socca
Fck Juric off immediately due to this, and bring back Scott McDonald

Re: Jurić’s proud message sparks unwarranted response

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:27 pm
by predrag
I am truly amazed to see that people took a stupid childish message as equal to a racial slur.What is next -Cronulla style riots over something as insignificant as this.It really makes me Question about the intolerance of society.I have taken tourists to AFL games (who speak a few languages,but not English)to be told to FKN speak English or go back to where i came from.Not once did we consider not coming to another game because of it.Yes i was embarrassed & my friends were even scared as whole family's where there.For me people that find offence in such things (at least i think)were just looking for something to start them up in the first place.

Re: Jurić’s proud message sparks unwarranted response

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:02 am
by BruceLee
Stuckey wrote:
BruceLee wrote:If he keeps scoring goals who cares. Honestly on the scale of things that matter this is minus 1000. If ange is ok with it then it's ok by me

I know we are all bored and want to say something about everything but cmon, talk about 1st world problems

You think it will turn potential supporters away. I think any supporter worth having will choose to focus on the fact that we may have a decent striker for the first time in years
Says the bloke whinging that AU are in disrepute.
Lol I used to wonder why people got annoyed at you but your pro au at all costs attitude is loveable but annoying. I'm just calling what I see. Just like I said we have played the best football ever. Gombau is the best thing that has happened to football in this state in years and I think we will win the final if we keep our team fit.

But I'm not going to forget certain things I've seen. And I can't totally ignore the things I hear. I can only hope that all the good things are true and the bad things are not, and everything turns out happily ever after like you think they will :D

Also I'd just like to say hi to my nonna and nonno

Re: Jurić’s proud message sparks unwarranted response

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 2:01 pm
by Stuckey
BruceLee wrote: But I'm not going to forget certain things I've seen. And I can't totally ignore the things I hear. I can only hope that all the good things are true and the bad things are not, and everything turns out happily ever after like you think they will :D
What things are you talking about?

Re: Jurić’s proud message sparks unwarranted response

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 4:15 pm
by Con M
predrag wrote:I thought it was a nice little message(speaking the language myself),although i guess the rules must be followed through-so he was lucky not to get booked.
Correct predrag - rightly or wrongly, last year's ruling by the SOLE custodian of the Laws of the Game Board (IFAB) was that no political, religious or PERSONAL messages or slogans were to be displayed on undershirts.

This has got nothing to do with the PC Brigade. IMO this western Sydneysider hadn't made himself aware of this ruling. That's his problem & Team Management's problem. He should have been booked.

Re: Jurić’s proud message sparks unwarranted response

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 4:43 pm
by GaylyColouredStumps
Con M wrote:
predrag wrote:I thought it was a nice little message(speaking the language myself),although i guess the rules must be followed through-so he was lucky not to get booked.
Correct predrag - rightly or wrongly, last year's ruling by the SOLE custodian of the Laws of the Game Board (IFAB) was that no political, religious or PERSONAL messages or slogans were to be displayed on undershirts.

This has got nothing to do with the PC Brigade. IMO this western Sydneysider hadn't made himself aware of this ruling. That's his problem & Team Management's problem. He should have been booked.
thats right con m. should this be taken to the IFAB for consideration? Are we, as supporters of the game, able to lodge an appeal to IFAB? surely something can be done.

I just feel so helpless.

Re: Jurić’s proud message sparks unwarranted response

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:54 pm
by Con M
El Paso del Norte wrote:
Con M wrote:
predrag wrote:I thought it was a nice little message(speaking the language myself),although i guess the rules must be followed through-so he was lucky not to get booked.
Correct predrag - rightly or wrongly, last year's ruling by the SOLE custodian of the Laws of the Game Board (IFAB) was that no political, religious or PERSONAL messages or slogans were to be displayed on undershirts.

This has got nothing to do with the PC Brigade. IMO this western Sydneysider hadn't made himself aware of this ruling. That's his problem & Team Management's problem. He should have been booked.
thats right con m. should this be taken to the IFAB for consideration? Are we, as supporters of the game, able to lodge an appeal to IFAB? surely something can be done.

I just feel so helpless.
Firstly, El Pasoff - go and get faarked. And why didn't you write your post in sarcastic blue?

For your info I'll repeat - IFAB decided a blanket ban on ALL religious, political & personal slogans/messages on undershirts. Is there a part of that ruling that doesn't sink in for you? It obviously didn't sink in with Australian-born Juric, who has left mainstream Aussies non-plussed with his dopey action.

There's no appeal. You can only go through your Association and convince them to go through their Confederation (the AFC) to recommend to IFAB to amend or change their ruling.

Now, as I said - go and get faarked if you can't accept the order of things and laws/rules.

Re: Jurić’s proud message sparks unwarranted response

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:00 pm
by GaylyColouredStumps
Con M wrote:
Firstly, El Pasoff - go and get faarked.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Jurić’s proud message sparks unwarranted response

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:06 pm
by Stitch This
El Paso del Norte wrote:
Con M wrote:
Firstly, El Pasoff - go and get faarked.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
I don't know what you're laughing at, you've been well and truly put in your box.

Re: Jurić’s proud message sparks unwarranted response

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:09 pm
by GaylyColouredStumps
Stitch This wrote:
El Paso del Norte wrote:
Con M wrote:
Firstly, El Pasoff - go and get faarked.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
I don't know what you're laughing at, you've been well and truly put in your box.
I know. It's the best thing con has ever written.

Re: Jurić’s proud message sparks unwarranted response

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:12 pm
by Con M
Stitch This wrote:
El Paso del Norte wrote:
Con M wrote:
Firstly, El Pasoff - go and get faarked.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
I don't know what you're laughing at, you've been well and truly put in your box.
Hey Stitch This - see I can spell your pseudonym right - thanks for helping shove El Pasoff back in his box!

Re: Jurić’s proud message sparks unwarranted response

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 2:54 pm
by Bomber
Con M wrote:
Now, as I said - go and get faarked if you can't accept the order of things and laws/rules.
I guess the same could be said about the forum awards, and Sulmona's winning post! :P

Re: Jurić’s proud message sparks unwarranted response

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:16 pm
by Napoli
If any potential supporter was turned off the game from what Juric did, the game is big enough to prosper without them

Re: Jurić’s proud message sparks unwarranted response

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:22 pm
by Socca
So Con M, seeing the Laws of the Game Board IFBI have a ruling that no political, religious or PERSONAL messages or slogans are allowed to be displayed on shirts, has the Juric case has been taken to the FIFA High Commission in Switzerland ?

And all the players that this week had slogans under their shirts in respect to the passing of the young Wolfsburg player, all made 'dopey actions' ?

Re: Jurić’s proud message sparks unwarranted response

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:22 pm
by Stitch This
Bomber wrote:
Con M wrote:
Now, as I said - go and get faarked if you can't accept the order of things and laws/rules.
I guess the same could be said about the forum awards, and Sulmona's winning post! :P
:lol:

Re: Jurić’s proud message sparks unwarranted response

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:02 pm
by Stitch This
I see David Warner is no fan of Juric's :P

Re: Jurić’s proud message sparks unwarranted response

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:17 am
by Con M
Socca wrote:So Con M, seeing the Laws of the Game Board IFBI have a ruling that no political, religious or PERSONAL messages or slogans are allowed to be displayed on shirts, has the Juric case has been taken to the FIFA High Commission in Switzerland ?

And all the players that this week had slogans under their shirts in respect to the passing of the young Wolfsburg player, all made 'dopey actions' ?
I think you mean the Court of Arbitration for Sport, Socca. I doubt they would bother with a nonentity like Juric and any yellow card he deserved. Look, Mummy & Daddy & Bro, I scored a goal - was an absurd thing to display in a language that the majority of the mainstream population (in our country where he was born) didn't understand.

As for any tragedy like a player's death, that's an awkward one. Isn't it best to honour with black armbands, with stadium flags lowered, to maybe grieve in private? Look how on and on the public showing of grief went for the Aussie cricketer. Shouldn't the Aussie players have grieved sooner in private? But that's another matter.

I agree with this blanket banning of all slogans/messages on undershirts.

Re: Jurić’s proud message sparks unwarranted response

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:20 pm
by Socca
You and others keep going on about these non-offensive slogans (only if youre are offended that it was in another language), yet no one who thinks they are half intelligent is saying anything about Hezbollah flags being displayed at a game

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Re: Jurić’s proud message sparks unwarranted response

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:39 pm
by predrag
OK,now the party of god flag down under is truly taking this topic to another level.The problem with it is that our average citizen could have a neighbor put it on their car ,and we would not know what it is?Thanks for bringing this to our attention,maybe the federal police can look into it, i hope it was a tourist not a local displaying it!

Re: Jurić’s proud message sparks unwarranted response

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:55 am
by Rob Lozza
Con M wrote:pps, Stuckup - how is your campaign for the removal of players' names on shirts around the World goin'?
How's your campaign going' to influence the IFAB?