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Re: Australian U17s - Joeys
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 2:56 pm
by Stuckey
Black_Panther wrote:
It wasn't my point, I was more trying to point out that we have been able to match the top countries in the past and that doesn't seem to happen anymore.
What would you call the Netherlands game in the WC if not matching it with them? We were leading at one point.
Re: Australian U17s - Joeys
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 4:13 pm
by Black_Panther
Stuckey wrote:Black_Panther wrote:
It wasn't my point, I was more trying to point out that we have been able to match the top countries in the past and that doesn't seem to happen anymore.
What would you call the Netherlands game in the WC if not matching it with them? We were leading at one point.
& then they turned it on and blew us away.
Re: Australian U17s - Joeys
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 9:12 pm
by Socca
Black_Panther wrote:BPBC wrote:No, we produced some great players in the 90's, not so much in that 1999 Under 17 squad mind you, my point was in reference to the results being the be all and end all, which is what I took that you were trying to highlight.
It wasn't my point, I was more trying to point out that we have been able to match the top countries in the past and that doesn't seem to happen anymore.
Besides a 2-1 win v Germany, the other results in 99 were;
1-2 loss to Brazil (with a late consultation goal)
1-0 win over Mali
1-0 win over Qatar
penalty win over USA
I think the stars definitely aligned that year
A lot of other countries have been spending and investing more in football and development then Australia in the last 10-20 years. They have either caught up or past us, simple really
And a handful of full time coaches scattered around Australia can not perform miracles and produce world class players in this current environment
Re: Australian U17s - Joeys
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 10:27 am
by Stuckey
Socca wrote:Black_Panther wrote:BPBC wrote:No, we produced some great players in the 90's, not so much in that 1999 Under 17 squad mind you, my point was in reference to the results being the be all and end all, which is what I took that you were trying to highlight.
It wasn't my point, I was more trying to point out that we have been able to match the top countries in the past and that doesn't seem to happen anymore.
Besides a 2-1 win v Germany, the other results in 99 were;
1-2 loss to Brazil (with a late consultation goal)
1-0 win over Mali
1-0 win over Qatar
penalty win over USA
I think the stars definitely aligned that year
A lot of other countries have been spending and investing more in football and development then Australia in the last 10-20 years. They have either caught up or past us, simple really
And a handful of full time coaches scattered around Australia can not perform miracles and produce world class players in this current environment
More full time coaches are certainly required. But besides sticking our hands out and asking for more money what else should be done?
Re: Australian U17s - Joeys
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 7:56 pm
by Stuckey
The Joeys will be out to maintain their perfect record at the Under-16 AFF Tournament in Cambodia when they take on Myanmar on Monday.
Read more at
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/high ... BVimDFZ.99
Won their first game 4-0 and second 8-2.
Their first game against the hosts Cambodia had 25k people show up!
Nice to see SA lad Lachlan Brook on the scoresheet.
Looks like Tony Vidmar is keen to give the entire a squad a go.
Re: Australian U17s - Joeys
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:57 am
by Stuckey
The Joeys have continued their free-scoring run at the Under-16 AFF Youth Championships with a big win over Myanmar on Monday night.
The young Aussies burst out of the blocks, scoring three times inside the first 20 minutes on the way to a 4-0 win in Myanmar.
Read more at
http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/art ... UyS2We8.99
That win means they've qualified for the semi finals.
Re: Australian U17s - Joeys
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:17 am
by Stuckey
The Joeys head into Friday’s semi-final at the AFF Youth Championships in blistering form after another huge win over the Philippines on Wednesday night.
After scores were locked at 2-2 midway through the first half, Ufuk Talay’s side blew their opponents away to run out 8-2 winners in Cambodia.
Read more at
http://www.joeys.footballaustralia.com. ... mgCCA3w.99
The Joeys will now take on Thailand in the last four on Friday night, with the winner to meet the victor in the other semi between Laos and Myanmar.
Its all sounding very positive.
Re: Australian U17s - Joeys
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 3:17 pm
by Stuckey
Re: Australian U17s - Joeys
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 8:39 am
by Stuckey
I obviously didn't read this tweet as I thought it was a live stream of their next match.
Re: Australian U17s - Joeys
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 10:28 am
by Stuckey
We've drawn Germany, Argentina and Mexico.
I'm gonna go with group of death.
Still should be a fantastic experience for the lads!
Re: Australian U17s - Joeys
Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 11:28 am
by Stuckey
The Joeys have been bundled out of the Under-16 AFF Tournament in Cambodia after suffering a heartbreaking 3-2 loss to Thailand overnight.
The young Aussies found themselves 3-0 down with 20 minutes remaining before pulling two goals back to set up a thrilling finish.
But despite a host of chances in the dying stages the Joeys were unable to fashion an equaliser and will now face Laos in the 3rd/4th placed playoff.
Read more at
http://www.joeys.footballaustralia.com. ... Tc1PcOl.99
Disappointing obviously they missed Tony Vidmar who was in Chile for the U17 WC draw.
Re: Australian U17s - Joeys
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 8:27 am
by Stuckey
The Joeys ended up taking out third place with a massive 10-2 win over Laos.
http://www.aseanfootball.org/results/20 ... ry-028.pdf
Re: Australian U17s - Joeys
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 11:12 pm
by Stuckey
Joeys European Match Details
2 September: Australia v USA @ 3pm (Stade Beaublanc)
4 September: Australia v Stade Rennais Youth Team @ 3pm (Stade Beaublanc)
6 September: Australia v France @ 7pm (Stade Beaublanc)
* local kick-off times
All matches will be played at Parc Sports News De Beaublanc Stadium, Limoges France.
Joeys Squad for France International Friendlies:
Panos Armenakas (Udinese Calcio, Italy)
Daniel Arzani (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Jackson Bandiera (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Joe Caletti (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Nicholas D'Agostino (Brisbane Roar FC)
Henry Davies (FFA Centre of Excellence)
James Delianov (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Lucas Derrick (Melbourne Victory FC)
Charlie Devereux (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Jamie Dimitroff (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Duro Dragicevic (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Perry Fotakopoulos (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Josh Hope (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Cameron Joice (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Danny Kim (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Josh Laws (Fortuna Dusseldorf, Germany)
Daniel Maskin (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Gian Mendez (unattached)
Brandon Osipov (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Nicholas Panetta (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Kosta Petratos (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Aaron Reardon (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Jamal Reiners (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Kye Rowles (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Jonathan Vakirtzis (Melbourne Victory FC)
Malcolm Ward (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Pierce Waring (Melbourne Victory FC)
Read more at
http://www.joeys.footballaustralia.com. ... zjISh6I.99
Interesting its a very different squad to the one that played in the ASEAN Cup not long ago.
I wonder why Brimmer, Zaineddine and Piscopo haven't got a run?
Re: Australian U17s - Joeys
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 11:32 pm
by COYR98
Stuckey wrote:Joeys European Match Details
2 September: Australia v USA @ 3pm (Stade Beaublanc)
4 September: Australia v Stade Rennais Youth Team @ 3pm (Stade Beaublanc)
6 September: Australia v France @ 7pm (Stade Beaublanc)
* local kick-off times
All matches will be played at Parc Sports News De Beaublanc Stadium, Limoges France.
Joeys Squad for France International Friendlies:
Panos Armenakas (Udinese Calcio, Italy)
Daniel Arzani (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Jackson Bandiera (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Joe Caletti (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Nicholas D'Agostino (Brisbane Roar FC)
Henry Davies (FFA Centre of Excellence)
James Delianov (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Lucas Derrick (Melbourne Victory FC)
Charlie Devereux (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Jamie Dimitroff (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Duro Dragicevic (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Perry Fotakopoulos (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Josh Hope (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Cameron Joice (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Danny Kim (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Josh Laws (Fortuna Dusseldorf, Germany)
Daniel Maskin (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Gian Mendez (unattached)
Brandon Osipov (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Nicholas Panetta (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Kosta Petratos (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Aaron Reardon (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Jamal Reiners (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Kye Rowles (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Jonathan Vakirtzis (Melbourne Victory FC)
Malcolm Ward (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Pierce Waring (Melbourne Victory FC)
Read more at
http://www.joeys.footballaustralia.com. ... zjISh6I.99
Interesting its a very different squad to the one that played in the ASEAN Cup not long ago.
I wonder why Brimmer, Zaineddine and Piscopo haven't got a run?
The ASEAN cup was filled with 2000/2001 borns. These are the 1998/1999 born as they have the u17 World Cup in the next few months. Brimmer was carrying an injury so they decided to not pick him, Zaineddine was just not picked im guessing and Piscopo plays for the Italian underage teams unfortuantely.
Re: Australian U17s - Joeys
Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:08 am
by Stuckey
COYR98 wrote:Stuckey wrote:Joeys European Match Details
2 September: Australia v USA @ 3pm (Stade Beaublanc)
4 September: Australia v Stade Rennais Youth Team @ 3pm (Stade Beaublanc)
6 September: Australia v France @ 7pm (Stade Beaublanc)
* local kick-off times
All matches will be played at Parc Sports News De Beaublanc Stadium, Limoges France.
Joeys Squad for France International Friendlies:
Panos Armenakas (Udinese Calcio, Italy)
Daniel Arzani (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Jackson Bandiera (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Joe Caletti (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Nicholas D'Agostino (Brisbane Roar FC)
Henry Davies (FFA Centre of Excellence)
James Delianov (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Lucas Derrick (Melbourne Victory FC)
Charlie Devereux (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Jamie Dimitroff (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Duro Dragicevic (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Perry Fotakopoulos (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Josh Hope (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Cameron Joice (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Danny Kim (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Josh Laws (Fortuna Dusseldorf, Germany)
Daniel Maskin (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Gian Mendez (unattached)
Brandon Osipov (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Nicholas Panetta (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Kosta Petratos (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Aaron Reardon (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Jamal Reiners (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Kye Rowles (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Jonathan Vakirtzis (Melbourne Victory FC)
Malcolm Ward (FFA Centre of Excellence)
Pierce Waring (Melbourne Victory FC)
Read more at
http://www.joeys.footballaustralia.com. ... zjISh6I.99
Interesting its a very different squad to the one that played in the ASEAN Cup not long ago.
I wonder why Brimmer, Zaineddine and Piscopo haven't got a run?
The ASEAN cup was filled with 2000/2001 borns. These are the 1998/1999 born as they have the u17 World Cup in the next few months. Brimmer was carrying an injury so they decided to not pick him, Zaineddine was just not picked im guessing and Piscopo plays for the Italian underage teams unfortuantely.
Ok thanks for that. Yeah considering Piscopo's record at Inter it would be great to see him in the Green and Gold.
Re: Australian U17s - Joeys
Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:08 am
by Stuckey
Limoges 0–8 Australia
United States 1–1 Australia
Stade Rennais U19 1–2 Australia
France 6–0 Australia
Some decent results for their European tour.
Although I think the last game can be excused considering it was their 4th game in 8 days.
Now the lads are off to Vietnam for the qualification of the U17 Asian Cup.
16 September 2015
Australia v Guam
18 September 2015
Myanmar v Australia
20 September 2015
Australia v Vietnam
Re: Australian U17s - Joeys
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:17 am
by Stuckey
First game of the U17 WC and the Joeys lost 4-1 to Germany. This was always going to be a tough group.
Apparently they played well I have had a chance to see any of it.
Re: Australian U17s - Joeys
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:41 pm
by Grosso
Stuckey wrote:First game of the U17 WC and the Joeys lost 4-1 to Germany. This was always going to be a tough group.
Apparently they played well I have had a chance to see any of it.
they were destroyed
it was 3-0 at half time and game over, the defending was pathetic and this so called golden generation of new dawn joeys looked completely out of their depth
Re: Australian U17s - Joeys
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 2:12 pm
by paraliticandroid
Germany played 4-2-3-1 and we were trying to hold them with a 4-3-3. Every time we had possession Germany was on to us like hounds. Poor kids they are told to do something by the coaching staff that is completely inappropriate to the way the opposition is playing, hence a defeat is inevitable.
I think technically the joeys are ok, but FFA is so fixed in making all teams to play 4-3-3 that they completely forget that teams play on their strengths and the on the opposition flaws. not that Germany has many but they are not perfect.
Re: Australian U17s - Joeys
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 3:32 pm
by paraliticandroid
Re: Australian U17s - Joeys
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 10:55 pm
by Stuckey
Grosso wrote:Stuckey wrote:First game of the U17 WC and the Joeys lost 4-1 to Germany. This was always going to be a tough group.
Apparently they played well I have had a chance to see any of it.
they were destroyed
it was 3-0 at half time and game over, the defending was pathetic and this so called golden generation of new dawn joeys looked completely out of their depth
When has anyone ever called these 15 and 16 year old kids the golden generation?
Re: Australian U17s - Joeys
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 10:55 pm
by Stuckey
Re: Australian U17s - Joeys
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 1:39 pm
by Old Master
What you should also take into consideration is that Germany is the powerhouse of Football in Europe and often gets similar results against other European teams.
We have the added problems of a vast continent, small population, are nowhere near the No1 sport in the country and we have to travel vast distances to get our teams together regularly.
The Germans can get their players together at will and are the major sport in their nation - which is also a super patriotic nation unlike Australia.
Re: Australian U17s - Joeys
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 3:52 pm
by Stuckey
Old Master wrote:What you should also take into consideration is that Germany is the powerhouse of Football in Europe and often gets similar results against other European teams.
We have the added problems of a vast continent, small population, are nowhere near the No1 sport in the country and we have to travel vast distances to get our teams together regularly.
The Germans can get their players together at will and are the major sport in their nation - which is also a super patriotic nation unlike Australia.
Wait what? Germany are good at football?! Since when?
Re: Australian U17s - Joeys
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 8:24 am
by Stuckey
0-0 with Mexico.
Much improved. We probably looked the better side in the second half.
Couple of good chances not to win it. Armenakas denied on a free kick by an awesome save.
Now we need Germany to win their games and hopefully we can get the result v Argentina. Considering Mexico beat Argentina 2-0 there is hope.
If we come third there is a decent chance we'll still progress the top 4 of the 6 third place sides will also progress.
Re: Australian U17s - Joeys
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 8:58 am
by beskid
Congrats to Charlie Devereux for playing in the world cup. Fully deserved, very talented boy. Hope he starts against Argentina. Good luck.
Re: Australian U17s - Joeys
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:51 am
by Stuckey
beskid wrote:Congrats to Charlie Devereux for playing in the world cup. Fully deserved, very talented boy. Hope he starts against Argentina. Good luck.
I thought he was a more attacking player. I didn't realise he played as an 8 or a 6.
He looked good.
Re: Australian U17s - Joeys
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:32 pm
by Steve#4
The pace in the first 15 minutes was incredible, 1st half mecico looked 3 classes above. 2 nd half though Joeys looked the better and will take confidence into the game against the Argys.
Re: Australian U17s - Joeys
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2015 7:56 am
by Stuckey
Argentina got pumped 4-0. I think as long as we can get a draw v them we'll make the next round as one of the best 3rd place sides.
To come second we'd really need Germany to put a few away against Mexico and beat Argentina.
If the lads get third it looks like they'll face either South Korea or Nigeria.
Re: Australian U17s - Joeys
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 9:15 am
by Stuckey
HT Australia 1-0 Argentina.
