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The record books say 2-1 to wales & Bale was the man .
good luck to the haters, he has more skill in his 'dives' than you have in your body GIAE.
Maradonna won a World Cup cheating, Armstrong won 7 TDFs.
reality is ....they're all doin it !
Doesn't make it right, just reality.
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Faith No More wrote:The record books say 2-1 to wales & Bale was the man .
good luck to the haters, he has more skill in his 'dives' than you have in your body GIAE.
Maradonna won a World Cup cheating, Armstrong won 7 TDFs.
reality is ....they're all doin it !
Doesn't make it right, just reality.

says it all!

and when maradona was caught cheating - they banned him

when armstrong was "caught" - they banned him and took his titles away.


So, when Bale is "caught" they should be retrospectively booking him for it. You can't change the result but you should be able to be punished for it.
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Lol at anyone trying to defend that. It's another dive, plain and simple.
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BowTiesAreCool wrote:Lol at anyone trying to defend that. It's another dive, plain and simple.
Strange then that the Scottish defender came out and publicly said that he'd made contact unintentionally.
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Nice One Cyril wrote:
BowTiesAreCool wrote:Lol at anyone trying to defend that. It's another dive, plain and simple.
Strange then that the Scottish defender came out and publicly said that he'd made contact unintentionally.
Irrelevant.
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The Kop wrote:
Nice One Cyril wrote:
BowTiesAreCool wrote:Lol at anyone trying to defend that. It's another dive, plain and simple.
Strange then that the Scottish defender came out and publicly said that he'd made contact unintentionally.
Irrelevant.
You are, but you your point is?
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Clever.

If we're claiming contact alone constitutes a foul then what's all this uproar about diving?
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Nice One Cyril wrote:
BowTiesAreCool wrote:Lol at anyone trying to defend that. It's another dive, plain and simple.
Strange then that the Scottish defender came out and publicly said that he'd made contact unintentionally.
Refuse to believe you're this dim.
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BowTiesAreCool wrote:
Nice One Cyril wrote:
BowTiesAreCool wrote:Lol at anyone trying to defend that. It's another dive, plain and simple.
Strange then that the Scottish defender came out and publicly said that he'd made contact unintentionally.
Refuse to believe you're this dim.

you can make contact and still dive.
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Thanks for spelling it out GIAE.
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BowTiesAreCool wrote:Thanks for spelling it out GIAE.

seemed like you needed it
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The Kop wrote:Clever.

If we're claiming contact alone constitutes a foul then what's all this uproar about diving?
The old deliberate simplification argument heh? I would never have said that.

Contact from behind whilst you're running must, by definition, be an invalid attempt to get the ball, since there's a player in the way, therefore contact from behind is a foul. Ergo, you get clipped from behind and fall over theatrically, I don't like the exaggeration but it's still a foul.

The dives are the two we saw from Bale and Suarez last week.
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BowTiesAreCool wrote:
Nice One Cyril wrote:
BowTiesAreCool wrote:Lol at anyone trying to defend that. It's another dive, plain and simple.
Strange then that the Scottish defender came out and publicly said that he'd made contact unintentionally.
Refuse to believe you're this dim.
I realise it was a sentence laden with difficult words. What would you like me to explain to you?
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Nice One Cyril wrote:
BowTiesAreCool wrote:
Nice One Cyril wrote: Strange then that the Scottish defender came out and publicly said that he'd made contact unintentionally.
Refuse to believe you're this dim.
What would you like me to explain to you?
How you think that a slight brush against his back results in him hitting the floor like he's been shot in both ankles.
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A dive is a dive .. great players nevertheless !!
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BowTiesAreCool wrote:
Nice One Cyril wrote:What would you like me to explain to you?
How you think that a slight brush against his back results in him hitting the floor like he's been shot in both ankles.
It's irrelevant how much contact there was. Don't challenge from behind. Simple.

As it happens, the defender said that he'd clipped his heels, so Bale's perfectly entitled to fall over.
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Nice One Cyril wrote:
The Kop wrote:Clever.

If we're claiming contact alone constitutes a foul then what's all this uproar about diving?
The old deliberate simplification argument heh? I would never have said that.

Contact from behind whilst you're running must, by definition, be an invalid attempt to get the ball, since there's a player in the way, therefore contact from behind is a foul. Ergo, you get clipped from behind and fall over theatrically, I don't like the exaggeration but it's still a foul.

The dives are the two we saw from Bale and Suarez last week.

it's still a foul but it's still a dive.
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God is an Englishman wrote:
Nice One Cyril wrote:
The Kop wrote:Clever.

If we're claiming contact alone constitutes a foul then what's all this uproar about diving?
The old deliberate simplification argument heh? I would never have said that.

Contact from behind whilst you're running must, by definition, be an invalid attempt to get the ball, since there's a player in the way, therefore contact from behind is a foul. Ergo, you get clipped from behind and fall over theatrically, I don't like the exaggeration but it's still a foul.

The dives are the two we saw from Bale and Suarez last week.

it's still a foul but it's still a dive.
Almost a winner, but I would differentiate between exaggeration and an out and out dive. Neither are desirable IMO, but the former is at least not cheating.
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Nice One Cyril wrote:
BowTiesAreCool wrote:
Nice One Cyril wrote:What would you like me to explain to you?
How you think that a slight brush against his back results in him hitting the floor like he's been shot in both ankles.
It's irrelevant how much contact there was. Don't challenge from behind. Simple.

As it happens, the defender said that he'd clipped his heels, so Bale's perfectly entitled to fall over.
Did he say that? Or did he say there was contact?
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BowTiesAreCool wrote:
Nice One Cyril wrote:
BowTiesAreCool wrote:How you think that a slight brush against his back results in him hitting the floor like he's been shot in both ankles.
It's irrelevant how much contact there was. Don't challenge from behind. Simple.

As it happens, the defender said that he'd clipped his heels, so Bale's perfectly entitled to fall over.
Did he say that? Or did he say there was contact?
Shaun Maloney wrote:“It wasn’t a challenge as such, he just ran across me and part of his legs touched mine. I don’t think he dived. It was just a coming together.

“I haven’t seen it again but I have to be honest – my gut feeling was that he didn’t dive. I’m pretty sure I didn't put a challenge in but I think there was some contact.
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Nice One Cyril wrote:
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Nice One Cyril wrote:The old deliberate simplification argument heh? I would never have said that.

Contact from behind whilst you're running must, by definition, be an invalid attempt to get the ball, since there's a player in the way, therefore contact from behind is a foul. Ergo, you get clipped from behind and fall over theatrically, I don't like the exaggeration but it's still a foul.

The dives are the two we saw from Bale and Suarez last week.

it's still a foul but it's still a dive.
Almost a winner, but I would differentiate between exaggeration and an out and out dive. Neither are desirable IMO, but the former is at least not cheating.
I would love to see a definition for the word "dive". To me if the contact isn't enough to actually knock you over then it's a dive.
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dive: An exaggerated fall intended to draw a penalty against an opponent
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God is an Englishman wrote:
dive: An exaggerated fall intended to draw a penalty against an opponent
:lol: you just made that up
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Nice One Cyril wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
dive: An exaggerated fall intended to draw a penalty against an opponent
:lol: you just made that up

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Just get the man a cape.
Get one for Ashley Young whilst youre at it too, oh and Suarez.
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And when I was argentina once, I saw almost everyone wearing them, some of them green.
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Diver or not, he's still an absolute quality footballer...

That Champions League game where he tore Inter a new arse was just incredible...
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Blotto wrote:Diver or not, he's still an absolute quality footballer...

That Champions League game where he tore Inter a new muscat was just incredible...
No doubt, he's very good.

So is Suarez, regardless of his antics.
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BowTiesAreCool wrote:
Blotto wrote:Diver or not, he's still an absolute quality footballer...

That Champions League game where he tore Inter a new muscat was just incredible...
No doubt, he's very good.

So is Suarez, regardless of his antics.
Which is what is so bloody annoying about both of them. If they were hacks I could understand it, but they're not.
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Nice One Cyril wrote:
BowTiesAreCool wrote:
Blotto wrote:Diver or not, he's still an absolute quality footballer...

That Champions League game where he tore Inter a new muscat was just incredible...
No doubt, he's very good.

So is Suarez, regardless of his antics.
Which is what is so bloody annoying about both of them. If they were hacks I could understand it, but they're not.
Yeah, pretty much. Absolutely hate diving.
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