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Interesting. We'll see if anything develops there or if he'll return to Italy and go on the market as he does not seem to feature in Conte's plans.
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Still no official word on Asamoah, Isla, Pogba and Leali, who have all reportedly had and passed their medicals.

Are Juve saving the announcements till after EURO/when players have returned from holidays?
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David Puddy wrote:Still no official word on Asamoah, Isla, Pogba and Leali, who have all reportedly had and passed their medicals.

Are Juve saving the announcements till after EURO/when players have returned from holidays?
Leali is confirmed. Pogba still deciding. Not sure why udinese duo have not been announced, but they appear a formality.
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guna be fun watchin gio do his thing in the champions league

the squad has alot of depth id really like to see juve make 2 or 3 big signings as opposed to 5-6 average ones

the players mentioned will bring alot of versatility, just need a talismanic figure to go with such an excellent squad
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Fenerbahçe wrote:Looks like Fener aren't interested in Ziegler anymore since we signed Turkish 22 y/o LB Hasan Ali Kaldirim. Ziegler is a great character but i'd much prefer Hasan Ali since he's one of the rising stars and since there is a foreigner limit in Turkey.
I also like Hasan Ali since very much
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Isla and Asamoah both official on co-ownership deals.

About 9m Euro each I believe. Both will add great depth and strength to an already great side, and not too expensive either.

Rumour is Lucio will sign on a free transfer tomorrow for 2 years. Thoughts on that one?
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Add Leali to the officially official crew.

Only problem I have with the Isla and Asamoah moves is that I think we'll be paying a lot more than 9mil next season to sign each outright, so hopefully the clubs good relationship will help there. But can't fault them from a playing perspective.

On Lucio, I wouldn't mind it. He offers experience, is on a free and is still decent. Saves money for the new striker.

Just on that, Ziegler could go to Fener for 4mil, which would be a handy little profit.
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Juventino wrote:Add Leali to the officially official crew.

Only problem I have with the Isla and Asamoah moves is that I think we'll be paying a lot more than 9mil next season to sign each outright, so hopefully the clubs good relationship will help there. But can't fault them from a playing perspective.

On Lucio, I wouldn't mind it. He offers experience, is on a free and is still decent. Saves money for the new striker.

Just on that, Ziegler could go to Fener for 4mil, which would be a handy little profit.
You are joking about Lucio surely - his wage wold be 3-4 million per year and he is 34 turning 35.
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El Pibe D'Oro wrote:
Juventino wrote:Add Leali to the officially official crew.

Only problem I have with the Isla and Asamoah moves is that I think we'll be paying a lot more than 9mil next season to sign each outright, so hopefully the clubs good relationship will help there. But can't fault them from a playing perspective.

On Lucio, I wouldn't mind it. He offers experience, is on a free and is still decent. Saves money for the new striker.

Just on that, Ziegler could go to Fener for 4mil, which would be a handy little profit.
You are joking about Lucio surely - his wage wold be 3-4 million per year and he is 34 turning 35.
Not a bad deal for Lucio on a free...His wages are being reported at 2.3 million per year, not to bad compared to some other players wages we have payed in the past (Amauri springs to mind). Also one thing to remember everybody scoffed at Pirlo's 3 year contract at 5 mil per year, turned out to be an astute investment. Time will tell whether this deal is worth it's value.
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2mil + bonuses is what I heard.
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The club has posted pictures on Twitter confirming Lucio is currently undergoing his medical, so that one should be wrapped up in the next few days.
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Chiellini's injury might rule him out for 4-6 weeks, so backup is definitely needed.

If Conte wants to continue to play 3 at the back then Lucio will not be enough, need at least another one CB.
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As it stands, in the 3-5-2 there is the usual trio of Chiellini, Bonucci and Barzagli. As backup there is Lucio and Caceres. Vidal could also be added to the mix. If the situation gets any more desperate then a Primavera player could be called up? If the situation were desperate with injury/suspension then the 4-3-3 is there to cut down the number of CBs required.
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David Puddy wrote:Chiellini's injury might rule him out for 4-6 weeks, so backup is definitely needed.

If Conte wants to continue to play 3 at the back then Lucio will not be enough, need at least another one CB.

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Co-ownership was renewed with Bologna, he'll play there this season. Good move, hope to see him develop with regular football.
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Juventino wrote:Co-ownership was renewed with Bologna, he'll play there this season. Good move, hope to see him develop with regular football.
Great young player.
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Lucio now official.

Main targets left are the striker and Verratti. As long as he gets a year at Pescara, but I'd like to see that move wrapped up before the end of this transfer window. A third goalkeeper is also needed, but that is not a huge deal at this stage.

Then we need to sell players - Ziegler, Melo, Iaquinta, Krasic, Elia, Pazienza and Martinez.
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El Pibe D'Oro wrote:
Juventino wrote:Add Leali to the officially official crew.

Only problem I have with the Isla and Asamoah moves is that I think we'll be paying a lot more than 9mil next season to sign each outright, so hopefully the clubs good relationship will help there. But can't fault them from a playing perspective.

On Lucio, I wouldn't mind it. He offers experience, is on a free and is still decent. Saves money for the new striker.

Just on that, Ziegler could go to Fener for 4mil, which would be a handy little profit.
You are joking about Lucio surely - his wage wold be 3-4 million per year and he is 34 turning 35.
2.2m actually ... half what he was earning at Inter.

On a free transfer = good buy for two years and means we don't have to outlay more $$$ on a quality defender now (who would have attracted close to 2m in wages anyway plus transfer fee), leaving us euro to spend on our star striker.

Lucio is unlikely to be first choice, and won't be required to play 3 games a week at like he was at Inter, so gives us quality and depth going into the champs league, along with the economic factors.

Good acquisition by Marotta.
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David Puddy wrote:Chiellini's injury might rule him out for 4-6 weeks, so backup is definitely needed.

If Conte wants to continue to play 3 at the back then Lucio will not be enough, need at least another one CB.
Juve won't spend on another central defender ... even with Chiellini injured for 4-6 weeks of pre-season.

If required, Caceres will slot into a CB bck position.

At best, Juve may buy a left back, but aside from young players, the club's focus will now be on strikers and selling off the unrequired players. Don't be surprised to Destro bought with Quags/Matri moving on plus the purchase of a big name.
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I think we're set on the left with De Ceglie + Chiellini there for certain matches. Vidal and Padoin can also play at LB if the situation gets desperate.

Signing Lucio reminds me of Vierchowod back in 95-96. Get him on a free, he adds experience, still has quality and is not there to be first choice.
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RVP announced that he's leaving Arsenal (or not going to sign a new contract anyway), so rumours of him to Juve have intensified.

As he only has one year left on his contract, what are the chances of us signing him for 10-15 mill then still being able to sign a Cavani, Higuain, Suarez?
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David Puddy wrote:RVP announced that he's leaving Arsenal (or not going to sign a new contract anyway), so rumours of him to Juve have intensified.

As he only has one year left on his contract, what are the chances of us signing him for 10-15 mill then still being able to sign a Cavani, Higuain, Suarez?

I dont think you could afford Cavani even before youve spent a cent on RVP.
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getborn wrote:
David Puddy wrote:RVP announced that he's leaving Arsenal (or not going to sign a new contract anyway), so rumours of him to Juve have intensified.

As he only has one year left on his contract, what are the chances of us signing him for 10-15 mill then still being able to sign a Cavani, Higuain, Suarez?

I dont think you could afford Cavani even before youve spent a cent on RVP.
That all depends on what type of mood ADL is in. I would think a value of between 25-30m would be about right, I know Lavezzi went for 30m, but I think thats because PSG were involved. I think that the issue of selling to a rival is more of a reason than price as to why he won't end up at Juve...remember we shelled out 25m for Amauri.
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Trezegoal #17 wrote:
getborn wrote:
David Puddy wrote:RVP announced that he's leaving Arsenal (or not going to sign a new contract anyway), so rumours of him to Juve have intensified.

As he only has one year left on his contract, what are the chances of us signing him for 10-15 mill then still being able to sign a Cavani, Higuain, Suarez?

I dont think you could afford Cavani even before youve spent a cent on RVP.
That all depends on what type of mood ADL is in. I would think a value of between 25-30m would be about right, I know Lavezzi went for 30m, but I think thats because PSG were involved. I think that the issue of selling to a rival is more of a reason than price as to why he won't end up at Juve...remember we shelled out 25m for Amauri.

25M for Amauri is your problem & not ours.
Lavezzi went for 30M because that's where his transfer clause was set. Whoever signed him was always going to need to find cash outright to seal the deal.
Cavani may have market value of 25-30M but his value to Napoli is now far higher especially in the absence of Lavezzi.
I dont think ADL would even consider anything under 45M & mind you he'd be worth every penny.
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[/quote]25M for Amauri is your problem & not ours.
Lavezzi went for 30M because that's where his transfer clause was set. Whoever signed him was always going to need to find cash outright to seal the deal.
Cavani may have market value of 25-30M but his value to Napoli is now far higher especially in the absence of Lavezzi.
I dont think ADL would even consider anything under 45M & mind you he'd be worth every penny.[/quote]

Didn't say it was your problem, you questioned Juve's financial capacity, and I gave you an example of previous expenditure on a forward. Regarding Lavezzi that was sort of my point, I dont think anyone would have paid that figure for him except a team with riduculous money to throw around. Agree Cavani is important for Napoli, but importance relevant to a team very rarely defines what a player will be sold for, especially if they dont have a release figure set.

The problem these days is that big spenders backed by billionaires have inflated players market value to ridiculous proportions, there are very few players in my opinion that are worth over 30m.

The other issue is that the media as well as agents have an even greater influence on how valuable a player is, this is something that ADL is currently complaining about. These two influences allow clubs to ask for riduculous fees for their stars, something that ADL is ruing but it may well be keeping Cavani at the club as it allows him to ask for an inflated fee without looking riduculous.
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I agree that Cavani could possibly be worth 45+, but that's only when comparing it to other ridiculous transfers involving PSG such as Lavezzi for 30+, Pastore for 40+, etc.

Good players no doubt, but when you consider that Real Madrid paid 80-90 for Ronaldo, there's a player who is going to win you games and even titles off his own back, whereas the players who PSG have signed won't. And yes I know he's more than double the price of the other two, but you could argue that he's also double the player.

And add to this that PSG are reportedly willing to pay 15m for Verratti from Pescara. Great young player, but for someone who has really only had one good season in the SECOND division of Italian football, it's a lot of money. PSG are killing football just like ManCity are. How can they keep affording to do this with Financial Fair Play supposedly kicking in soon?

Anyway, I'd be happy with RVP along with Gio, Vucinic, and or Quags and Matri to lead the line.
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Elia reportedly had his medical with Werder Bremen, and will move for about 5.5m.

Pazienza and Padoin linked with Fiorentina in some sort of Jovetic deal.

Krasic linked with Inter and Liverpool.

Motta to move to Atalanta in co-ownership along with another Juve youngster for Gabbiadini.

All rumours over this past weekend.
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Elia sold to Werder Bremen for 5.5mil. Eljero, we hardly knew thee.

While it was a wasted year for club and player, I must say you didn't hear anything come from Elia during the year about how he should play, etc (*cough* like Giovinco), he knuckled down and did his work, unfortunately didn't work out for either party.
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