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[God is an Englishman]

God's just jealous, he wanted the name Africa Utd for the English cricket team

Despite me providing you all the facts you just won't learn will you swanny.

[God is an Englishman]

Right, so what are you suggesting ? We change club name because we are going through a really bad patch of form..Laugh all you can that's the club name and is here to stay! Even if we play Div 5 it is going to be the same. Cool name huh ? Jealous much

You've already changed it once, why not again? Either way, you'll aways be africa to me!

Change from Africa Utd. Allstars to just Allstars Utd. so there wasn't really a radical change, just took out the Africa part...

Wouldn't be a radical change to be NOT stars united either then.

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God's just jealous, he wanted the name Africa Utd for the English cricket team

Despite me providing you all the facts you just won't learn will you swanny.

Not Africa Utd more like Subcontinent Utd !

[God is an Englishman]

God's just jealous, he wanted the name Africa Utd for the English cricket team

Despite me providing you all the facts you just won't learn will you swanny.

Not Africa Utd more like Subcontinent Utd !

As much of a clue about the England cricket team that you have about refereeing a football match.

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Wouldn't be a radical change to be NOT stars united either then.

Sorry for confusing you!

[God is an Englishman]

Wouldn't be a radical change to be NOT stars united either then.

Sorry for confusing you!

well, you have now but i accept your apology.

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As much of a clue about the England cricket team that you have about refereeing a football match.

Changing topics are we ? I thought you were here to discuss my club's name. Why we are called Allstars when we can't win a game? Too much to comprehend for you or is it past your brain capacity to understand such things

[God is an Englishman]

As much of a clue about the England cricket team that you have about refereeing a football match.

Changing topics are we ? I thought you were here to discuss my club's name. Why we are called Allstars when we can't win a game? Too much to comprehend for you or is it past your brain capacity to understand such things

you were the one who responded to a comment about the England cricket team :?

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God's just jealous, he wanted the name Africa Utd for the English cricket team

Despite me providing you all the facts you just won't learn will you swanny.

Not Africa Utd more like Subcontinent Utd !

The England cricket team represents England and Wales. However, under ICC regulations, players can qualify to play for a country by nationality, place of birth or residence, so (as with any national sports team) some people are eligible to play for more than one team.
ECB regulations state that to play for England, a player must be a British or Irish citizen, and have either been born in England or Wales, or have lived in England or Wales for the last four years. This has led to players of many other nationalities becoming eligible to play for England.
Of the current squad (see above), Andrew Strauss, Matt Prior, Kevin Pietersen, Jonathan Trott, Craig Kieswetter and Michael Lumb are all South-African-born but qualify through British parentage (though they still had to fulfil residency requirements), whilst Eoin Morgan is an Irish citizen and Jade Dernbach has British citizenship having lived in England since his youth.
England have been captained by a Scot (Mike Denness), four South African-born players (Tony Greig, Allan Lamb, Andrew Strauss and Kevin Pietersen), three Indian-born players (Douglas Jardine, Colin Cowdrey and Nasser Hussain), Italian-born (Ted Dexter) and Australian-born (Gubby Allen). South African Cape Coloured player Basil D'Oliveira famously played for England during the Apartheid era, whilst other notable players of the past 20 years include Graeme Hick (Zimbabwe), Andrew Caddick (New Zealand) and Geraint Jones (Papua New Guinea/Australia).
Further, ICC regulations allow cricketers who represent associate (i.e. non-Test-playing) nations to switch to a Test-playing nation, provided nationality requirements are fulfilled. In recent years, this has seen Irish internationals Ed Joyce and Eoin Morgan switch to represent England, whilst Gavin Hamilton previously played for Scotland – though four years after his last appearance for England, he became eligible to play for Scotland again.

My bad Swanny was right even though the England national cricket team has or always had boasted players from the subcontinent..

[God is an Englishman]

Ahh, so you remember your comment now. I take it you feel a bit silly for accusing me of changing the subject. Never mind, like your reff'ing you made mistakes.

And of course, we allow sub continent players. We allow anyone who qualifies for England. Panesar and Mahmood recently have been what some might describe as sub continent players. Not being racist, all I see is an English born cricketer.

Oh and gubby allen was a cunt so it makes sense where he was born.

Gerain Jones was impressive to be born in 2 different countries

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As much of a clue about the England cricket team that you have about refereeing a football match.

I am pretty comfortable with my refereeing. I support quality rather then quantity and skill over strength. I know in the amateur league there is a tendency from most referees to be more lenient towards physical contact but I have a different view. A good team and also a good player should have no problem adapting to any style of play.

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Ahh, so you remember your comment now. I take it you feel a bit silly for accusing me of changing the subject. Never mind, like your reff'ing you made mistakes.

And of course, we allow sub continent players. We allow anyone who qualifies for England. Panesar and Mahmood recently have been what some might describe as sub continent players. Not being racist, all I see is an English born cricketer.

Oh and gubby allen was a champagne so it makes sense where he was born.

Gerain Jones was impressive to be born in 2 different countries

You don't allow, you have to play them otherwise the English national team will be crap. Anyone who qualifies that is good enough you should have said ;) Its not racism, is a fact.

[God is an Englishman]

As much of a clue about the England cricket team that you have about refereeing a football match.

I am pretty comfortable with my refereeing. I support quality rather then quantity and skill over strength. I know in the amateur league there is a tendency from most referees to be more lenient towards physical contact but I have a different view. A good team and also a good player should have no problem adapting to any style of play.

I agree teams should adapt to the refs style, however it's always nice to see consistency to both teams from the ref.

[God is an Englishman]

Ahh, so you remember your comment now. I take it you feel a bit silly for accusing me of changing the subject. Never mind, like your reff'ing you made mistakes.

And of course, we allow sub continent players. We allow anyone who qualifies for England. Panesar and Mahmood recently have been what some might describe as sub continent players. Not being racist, all I see is an English born cricketer.

Oh and gubby allen was a champagne so it makes sense where he was born.

Gerain Jones was impressive to be born in 2 different countries

You don't allow, you have to play them otherwise the English national team will be crap. Anyone who qualifies that is good enough you should have said ;) Its not racism, is a fact.

well it would be racist to not play someone because of the colour of their skin. And of course IF THEY'RE GOOD ENOUGH, what sort of an idiotic quota system would you like us to bring in. You must have 3 black players in your side even if they're shit. That would just be silly.

I'm more than comfortable with the nationality of every single player in our test side and the fact is we are going to be number 1 ranked side in the world VERY SOON!!

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As much of a clue about the England cricket team that you have about refereeing a football match.

I am pretty comfortable with my refereeing. I support quality rather then quantity and skill over strength. I know in the amateur league there is a tendency from most referees to be more lenient towards physical contact but I have a different view. A good team and also a good player should have no problem adapting to any style of play.

I agree teams should adapt to the refs style, however it's always nice to see consistency to both teams from the ref.

Yes, at the beginning of the match you guys went down 2-0 and then started to play physical football. That was because you were frustrated and wanted to get back into the game. That's when you guys got most of your yellow cards.After half time your style of play changed and ended up winning the game purely because of one touch plays. Therefore your comment on inconsistency has no valid point.

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Ahh, so you remember your comment now. I take it you feel a bit silly for accusing me of changing the subject. Never mind, like your reff'ing you made mistakes.

And of course, we allow sub continent players. We allow anyone who qualifies for England. Panesar and Mahmood recently have been what some might describe as sub continent players. Not being racist, all I see is an English born cricketer.

Oh and gubby allen was a champagne so it makes sense where he was born.

Gerain Jones was impressive to be born in 2 different countries

You don't allow, you have to play them otherwise the English national team will be crap. Anyone who qualifies that is good enough you should have said ;) Its not racism, is a fact.

well it would be racist to not play someone because of the colour of their skin. And of course IF THEY'RE GOOD ENOUGH, what sort of an idiotic quota system would you like us to bring in. You must have 3 black players in your side even if they're cabernet. That would just be silly.

I'm more than comfortable with the nationality of every single player in our test side and the fact is we are going to be number 1 ranked side in the world VERY SOON!!

Because there aren't any better English players, and when I refer to English players I mean from an English background. So you have to import per say ;)

[God is an Englishman]

Because there aren't any better English players, and when I refer to English players I mean from an English background. So you have to import per say ;)

All of our players do have an English background, they just weren't all born in England so your point has no validity.

[God is an Englishman]

Yes, at the beginning of the match you guys went down 2-0 and then started to play physical football. That was because you were frustrated and wanted to get back into the game. That's when you guys got most of your yellow cards.After half time your style of play changed and ended up winning the game purely because of one touch plays. Therefore your comment on inconsistency has no valid point.

you are a funny man!

If, as a ref, you see a player from one team strike a member of the opposition. Do you A) caution him or B) give him a red card?

Consistency is the key here because you talk about skill over strength.

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Yes, at the beginning of the match you guys went down 2-0 and then started to play physical football. That was because you were frustrated and wanted to get back into the game. That's when you guys got most of your yellow cards.After half time your style of play changed and ended up winning the game purely because of one touch plays. Therefore your comment on inconsistency has no valid point.

you are a funny man!

If, as a ref, you see a player from one team strike a member of the opposition. Do you A) caution him or B) give him a red card?

Consistency is the key here because you talk about skill over strength.

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Because there aren't any better English players, and when I refer to English players I mean from an English background. So you have to import per say ;)

All of our players do have an English background, they just weren't all born in England so your point has no validity.

I don't think all! Most of them yes!

[God is an Englishman]

Because there aren't any better English players, and when I refer to English players I mean from an English background. So you have to import per say ;)

All of our players do have an English background, they just weren't all born in England so your point has no validity.

I don't think all! Most of them yes!

feel free to name one!

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feel free to name one!

Eoin Morgan, Ed Joyce are Irish
Ajmal Shahzad -Pakistani background
Samit Patel- Indian Background

plus the others who were not born in England but from English background. Lots of them from South Africa!

[God is an Englishman]

feel free to name one!

Eoin Morgan, Ed Joyce are Irish
Ajmal Shahzad -Pakistani background
Samit Patel- Indian Background

plus the others who were not born in England but from English background. Lots of them from South Africa!

Let's start with the most simple ones of all. Your last sentance, as you say yourself. "but from an English background".

Shahzad is not in the current test side but was born in England. Are you actually saying that despite being born in England, he shouldn't be picked for England. That's racism!

Patel has not played a single test match but was born in England. Are you actually saying that despite being born in England, he shouldn't be picked for England. That's racism!

Eoin Morgan - your point is valid but only via semantics. He has a welsh background and not an English one. However, it is the England and wales Cricket Board. It is only people's ignorance on that one that causes doubts.

[swannsong]

God's just jealous, he wanted the name Africa Utd for the English cricket team

Despite me providing you all the facts you just won't learn will you swanny.

Yes, I have

[God is an Englishman]

God's just jealous, he wanted the name Africa Utd for the English cricket team

Despite me providing you all the facts you just won't learn will you swanny.

Yes, I have

I don't understand the constant references then, I thought you were an educated man - a scientist.

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Let's start with the most simple ones of all. Your last sentance, as you say yourself. "but from an English background".

Shahzad is not in the current test side but was born in England. Are you actually saying that despite being born in England, he shouldn't be picked for England. That's racism!

Patel has not played a single test match but was born in England. Are you actually saying that despite being born in England, he shouldn't be picked for England. That's racism!

Eoin Morgan - your point is valid but only via semantics. He has a welsh background and not an English one. However, it is the England and wales Cricket Board. It is only people's ignorance on that one that causes doubts.

Ed Joyce is Irish. Went back to playing for Ireland.
Being born in England doesn't mean your background is English I must say. They can play for England, but still their background would be wherever their parents came from. So therefore they have no English background(ancestry).

[God is an Englishman]

Let's start with the most simple ones of all. Your last sentance, as you say yourself. "but from an English background".

Shahzad is not in the current test side but was born in England. Are you actually saying that despite being born in England, he shouldn't be picked for England. That's racism!

Patel has not played a single test match but was born in England. Are you actually saying that despite being born in England, he shouldn't be picked for England. That's racism!

Eoin Morgan - your point is valid but only via semantics. He has a welsh background and not an English one. However, it is the England and wales Cricket Board. It is only people's ignorance on that one that causes doubts.

Ed Joyce is Irish. Went back to playing for Ireland.
Being born in England doesn't mean your background is English I must say. They can play for England, but still their background would be wherever their parents came from. So therefore they have no English background(ancestry).

Joyce is not in the current test side. This just gets easier and easier doesn't it.

Can you name one member of the current side that doesn't have an English (or welsh) background?

You are failing, and I was hoping for a challenge as well. Pretty hard when there isn't one

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Well most of the English players are either born in another country ie South Africa or born in England from another background.
Just because one is born in England doesn't make you automatically English with an English background. You are loosing the plot if you think that. So final conclusion is that most of the English cricket team is made out of English born, Pakistani, Indian background etc or South African born, English background. Listen to Kevin Pietersen talk, then come back and tell me he is 100% English But you take him to play for England because you don't have anyone better. That's why you guys keep importing, mainly from South Africa.

[God is an Englishman]

Well most of the English players are either born in another country ie South Africa or born in England from another background.
Just because one is born in England doesn't make you automatically English with an English background. You are loosing the plot if you think that. So final conclusion is that most of the English cricket team is made out of English born, Pakistani, Indian background etc or South African born, English background. Listen to Kevin Pietersen talk, then come back and tell me he is 100% English But you take him to play for England because you don't have anyone better. That's why you guys keep importing, mainly from South Africa.

So basically you are backtracking on your original comment about England's players not being of an English background. Still you haven't managed to name these non English background players.

I now call you on this comment as well. Can you show me how MOST of the players are either English background born in another country or English born from another background. EVERY single player has either an English (or welsh) background. Name on current test player who isn't from this background. The only one close is Morgan who has a welsh grandfather.

I have never said KP is 100% English, he's only 50% English due to his SA father. England takes the best players that qualify for their country, just like all the others. How many rhodesians have played for SA? How many non aussies have played for australia? Surely Brendan Nash is not from a west indian background?

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Well most of the English players are either born in another country ie South Africa or born in England from another background.
Just because one is born in England doesn't make you automatically English with an English background. You are loosing the plot if you think that. So final conclusion is that most of the English cricket team is made out of English born, Pakistani, Indian background etc or South African born, English background. Listen to Kevin Pietersen talk, then come back and tell me he is 100% English But you take him to play for England because you don't have anyone better. That's why you guys keep importing, mainly from South Africa.

So basically you are backtracking on your original comment about England's players not being of an English background. Still you haven't managed to name these non English background players.

I now call you on this comment as well. Can you show me how MOST of the players are either English background born in another country or English born from another background. EVERY single player has either an English (or welsh) background. Name on current test player who isn't from this background. The only one close is Morgan who has a welsh grandfather.

I have never said KP is 100% English, he's only 50% English due to his SA father. England takes the best players that qualify for their country, just like all the others. How many rhodesians have played for SA? How many non aussies have played for australia? Surely Brendan Nash is not from a west indian background?

Yeah, but KP wasn't good enough to play for SA. He didn't get picked so he had to go play for England. I am not backtracking anything. Well its a simple fact that you have SA born players from a partly English background and Pakistani, Indian background English born players. Go to Wikipedia and find out for yourself. Read Wiki and you will understand.Every country has one or two but not as many as England. No one says they can't play for England but they are who they are and they are not 100% English, therefore not really English right?