port pirie city

[DOC]

I thought should an entity fold or merge, then it goes back to the bottom of the league and 3rd place in the next div gets the call up?

usual case, but in this instance it could be the name stayes and they just get the players, therefore not a new team, while changing of where they play is an issue though

[Knight7]

I thought should an entity fold or merge, then it goes back to the bottom of the league and 3rd place in the next div gets the call up?

Fold yes, Merge no, has happened many times - Adelaide Celtic did it and went up 3 or 4 Divisions

[ExtraTime]

which team will get to play the last game of the year in pirie

now that will be a bus trip back

[Bomber]

I even know a bloke who owns two pubs up there. Always loved the Pirie trips - tis a good town, especially if you can arrange to stay over night.

[pecker]

we would be keen on a trip to Pirie, only if it's played Saturday night.

[GULLY BOYZ]

Im with you Pecker ! If it is to be played at pirie then it should be a Saturday evening game not Sunday !!

[swannsong]

Do Port Pirie have good lighting up there ?
Saturday Nights sounds good to me....might get others travelling up to watch the games ?

[Redders]

Home games apparently at Grange, not sure how that would work though.

[swannsong]

Home games apparently at Grange, not sure how that would work though.

Away teams turn up to Grange and play PPS-USC Lion....simple really, unless other teams have been booked to play on the same day !

[Redders]

Home games apparently at Grange, not sure how that would work though.

Away teams turn up to Grange and play PPS-USC Lion....simple really, unless other teams have been booked to play on the same day !

But they have there own facilities, surely they would want to generate some income over the bar etc.

Grange Lion Div3 Saturdays

[guti]

Home games apparently at Grange, not sure how that would work though.

Away teams turn up to Grange and play PPS-USC Lion....simple really, unless other teams have been booked to play on the same day !

But they have there own facilities, surely they would want to generate some income over the bar etc.

Grange Lion Div3 Saturdays

Div 4 or 5 ?

[swannsong]

They would surely have to be slotted into Division 3 as most teams in Division 4 are C-Teams (in a way) or teams without a Reserve side.
Even several Division 3 sides are Club's 3rd teams.

[GULLY BOYZ]

Was told tonight that Port Pirie has merged with USC Lion, but (apparently) Usc Lion is going to Saturdays and Port Pirie (Savoy) are taking the spot of USC lion in Div2 Sundays. Port Pirie will have their home games in Port Pirie and the SAASL will accomadate all teams with a sum of money to travel to their ground. Very interesting senario which brings a few questions. If a Club merges doesnt that mean they join as one team ? If so why is lion now going to Saturdays ?? Is some of the lion Players staying to play Sunday with Port pirie ?? Are port pirie adding the name Lion to their name ??.................................. Hope some of this can be cleared up. if not some questions need to asked soon !! Doesnt seem to fit in with the rules if the answer to these questions are inadequate.

PS............... Good to see you again Swansong !! Hope to catch up next time we play the Knights !!

[guti]

They would surely have to be slotted into Division 3 as most teams in Division 4 are C-Teams (in a way) or teams without a Reserve side.
Even several Division 3 sides are Club's 3rd teams.

Division 4 was a first and reserves league. Last year it contained Adelaide Pumas (from Sunday), Murray Bridge, Strathalbyn, ACU Falcons, Simba of Congo (from Sunday), and Torrens Valley. The only 'C' teams you refer to are OISC (2) and Adelaide Uni (3).

If they start anywhere, they start at the bottom. They are a 'new' club in the division.

[swannsong]

New teams fielding a reserves side in Sunday Divisions have historically, always entered in Divisions above the C-Teams/Third teams and teams that do not have the numbers to field a Reserves side .
Division 3 had only 9 teams in 2009, and as you have stated 2 of those sides were club's 3rd string sides (finishing 2nd and 3rd bottom of the Division) Maybe they are considering a 12 team Division 3 ?

[Monty's Python]

I thought should an entity fold or merge, then it goes back to the bottom of the league and 3rd place in the next div gets the call up?

In most countries if two teams merge they take the place of the lower of the two.

[Monty's Python]

Was told tonight that Port Pirie has merged with USC Lion, but (apparently) Usc Lion is going to Saturdays and Port Pirie (Savoy) are taking the spot of USC lion in Div2 Sundays. Port Pirie will have their home games in Port Pirie and the SAASL will accomadate all teams with a sum of money to travel to their ground. Very interesting senario which brings a few questions. If a Club merges doesnt that mean they join as one team ? If so why is lion now going to Saturdays ?? Is some of the lion Players staying to play Sunday with Port pirie ?? Are port pirie adding the name Lion to their name ??.................................. Hope some of this can be cleared up. if not some questions need to asked soon !! Doesnt seem to fit in with the rules if the answer to these questions are inadequate.

PS............... Good to see you again Swansong !! Hope to catch up next time we play the Knights !!

Clubs can enter teams in both saturday and sunday leagues. Pontions, Adelaide Villa (I think) and Munno Para have done it in the past. If the two play under the one name I think it's possible, although by rights a merged club should start at the level of the lower of the two.

[Monty's Python]

They would surely have to be slotted into Division 3 as most teams in Division 4 are C-Teams (in a way) or teams without a Reserve side.
Even several Division 3 sides are Club's 3rd teams.

Division 4 was a first and reserves league. Last year it contained Adelaide Pumas (from Sunday), Murray Bridge, Strathalbyn, ACU Falcons, Simba of Congo (from Sunday), and Torrens Valley. The only 'C' teams you refer to are OISC (2) and Adelaide Uni (3).

If they start anywhere, they start at the bottom. They are a 'new' club in the division.

Torrens Valley only had one team and really should have played in division five which could have done with an extra team.

[pecker]

Was told tonight that Port Pirie has merged with USC Lion, but (apparently) Usc Lion is going to Saturdays and Port Pirie (Savoy) are taking the spot of USC lion in Div2 Sundays. Port Pirie will have their home games in Port Pirie and the SAASL will accomadate all teams with a sum of money to travel to their ground. Very interesting senario which brings a few questions. If a Club merges doesnt that mean they join as one team ? If so why is lion now going to Saturdays ?? Is some of the lion Players staying to play Sunday with Port pirie ?? Are port pirie adding the name Lion to their name ??.................................. Hope some of this can be cleared up. if not some questions need to asked soon !! Doesnt seem to fit in with the rules if the answer to these questions are inadequate.

The grove will be all for this, as long as the game can be played on a Saturday night. As least then we can make a weekend of it.

[Left Right Out]

Was told tonight that Port Pirie has merged with USC Lion, but (apparently) Usc Lion is going to Saturdays and Port Pirie (Savoy) are taking the spot of USC lion in Div2 Sundays. Port Pirie will have their home games in Port Pirie and the SAASL will accomadate all teams with a sum of money to travel to their ground. Very interesting senario which brings a few questions. If a Club merges doesnt that mean they join as one team ? If so why is lion now going to Saturdays ?? Is some of the lion Players staying to play Sunday with Port pirie ?? Are port pirie adding the name Lion to their name ??.................................. Hope some of this can be cleared up. if not some questions need to asked soon !! Doesnt seem to fit in with the rules if the answer to these questions are inadequate.

PS............... Good to see you again Swansong !! Hope to catch up next time we play the Knights !!

The Amateur League does a great job and they have made really good decisions BUT this one in my opinion is a bit dodgey.

Port Pirie coming into Sunday Div 2 is ridiculous. To say they have merged with USC Lion is as close to a lie as Ive ever heard. They havent amalgamated? They have simply taken USC lions place, do they have 1 committee or 2? Will they have a reserves team? There advert in the Pirie Paper asks for a Senior coach only? This leaves Munno Para and Brahma Lodge in a bit of turmoil. To go and play in Pirie on a Sunday is just short of stupid. In my opinion and I had to do this twice a year when coaching at Playford was great fun on the way home BUT we had Sunday to recover, I understand we could play them on Saturdays BUT we play in Sunday Amateur Comp so it really doesnt fit. A bus to Pirie cost Playford $870. Will this amount be covered by the SAASL. Will 1 ref go up there every week or will we have a Pirie Ref. I just cant see how this has been thought through? Im sure there will be nothing we can do but I find it odd and a touch unfair to a couple of other clubs.

[guti]

New teams fielding a reserves side in Sunday Divisions have historically, always entered in Divisions above the C-Teams/Third teams and teams that do not have the numbers to field a Reserves side .
Division 3 had only 9 teams in 2009, and as you have stated 2 of those sides were club's 3rd string sides (finishing 2nd and 3rd bottom of the Division) Maybe they are considering a 12 team Division 3 ?

Division 3 started with 10 teams. The Afghan team (can't remember their name) was booted after a player assaulted a referee. As far as I know two (or three) teams go up and two teams go down pending whether they are allowed back in.

USC Lion would have to start in Division 4, which was the league above the 'C' Leagues (which were Divisions 5 and 6).

[guti]

They would surely have to be slotted into Division 3 as most teams in Division 4 are C-Teams (in a way) or teams without a Reserve side.
Even several Division 3 sides are Club's 3rd teams.

Division 4 was a first and reserves league. Last year it contained Adelaide Pumas (from Sunday), Murray Bridge, Strathalbyn, ACU Falcons, Simba of Congo (from Sunday), and Torrens Valley. The only 'C' teams you refer to are OISC (2) and Adelaide Uni (3).

If they start anywhere, they start at the bottom. They are a 'new' club in the division.

Torrens Valley only had one team and really should have played in division five which could have done with an extra team.

From my conversations at the SAASL, they were originally in Division 6, but moved to Division 4 after it was thought that they could get enough players for a Reserve team, but this didn't eventuate by the start of the season.

[Chaos]

Was told tonight that Port Pirie has merged with USC Lion, but (apparently) Usc Lion is going to Saturdays and Port Pirie (Savoy) are taking the spot of USC lion in Div2 Sundays. Port Pirie will have their home games in Port Pirie and the SAASL will accomadate all teams with a sum of money to travel to their ground. Very interesting senario which brings a few questions. If a Club merges doesnt that mean they join as one team ? If so why is lion now going to Saturdays ?? Is some of the lion Players staying to play Sunday with Port pirie ?? Are port pirie adding the name Lion to their name ??.................................. Hope some of this can be cleared up. if not some questions need to asked soon !! Doesnt seem to fit in with the rules if the answer to these questions are inadequate.

PS............... Good to see you again Swansong !! Hope to catch up next time we play the Knights !!

The Amateur League does a great job and they have made really good decisions BUT this one in my opinion is a bit dodgey.

Port Pirie coming into Sunday Div 2 is ridiculous. To say they have merged with USC Lion is as close to a lie as Ive ever heard. They havent amalgamated? They have simply taken USC lions place, do they have 1 committee or 2? Will they have a reserves team? There advert in the Pirie Paper asks for a Senior coach only? This leaves Munno Para and Brahma Lodge in a bit of turmoil. To go and play in Pirie on a Sunday is just short of stupid. In my opinion and I had to do this twice a year when coaching at Playford was great fun on the way home BUT we had Sunday to recover, I understand we could play them on Saturdays BUT we play in Sunday Amateur Comp so it really doesnt fit. A bus to Pirie cost Playford $870. Will this amount be covered by the SAASL. Will 1 ref go up there every week or will we have a Pirie Ref. I just cant see how this has been thought through? Im sure there will be nothing we can do but I find it odd and a touch unfair to a couple of other clubs.

So how/when will either of these two clubs find out?

[Dickie Bird]

The Amateur League honchos do whatever they like.
If they want the Pirie team that has just been booted out of the FFSA, they will dangle a carrot to make it worthwhile (whilst trying to get one up on the FFSA).

There have been some less than glamorous 'mergers' in the past. I think the 'Eastside Jets' merger earlier this decade was more of a takeover inorder for a Div 4 team leap frog into Sun Div 1. It just took the now Sat Div 1 Jets a few years to re-establish themselves. (I am sure a Jets person will correct me if I am wrong)

[Uncle Cracker]

Was told tonight that Port Pirie has merged with USC Lion, but (apparently) Usc Lion is going to Saturdays and Port Pirie (Savoy) are taking the spot of USC lion in Div2 Sundays. Port Pirie will have their home games in Port Pirie and the SAASL will accomadate all teams with a sum of money to travel to their ground. Very interesting senario which brings a few questions. If a Club merges doesnt that mean they join as one team ? If so why is lion now going to Saturdays ?? Is some of the lion Players staying to play Sunday with Port pirie ?? Are port pirie adding the name Lion to their name ??.................................. Hope some of this can be cleared up. if not some questions need to asked soon !! Doesnt seem to fit in with the rules if the answer to these questions are inadequate.

PS............... Good to see you again Swansong !! Hope to catch up next time we play the Knights !!

The Amateur League does a great job and they have made really good decisions BUT this one in my opinion is a bit dodgey.

Port Pirie coming into Sunday Div 2 is ridiculous. To say they have merged with USC Lion is as close to a lie as Ive ever heard. They havent amalgamated? They have simply taken USC lions place, do they have 1 committee or 2? Will they have a reserves team? There advert in the Pirie Paper asks for a Senior coach only? This leaves Munno Para and Brahma Lodge in a bit of turmoil. To go and play in Pirie on a Sunday is just short of stupid. In my opinion and I had to do this twice a year when coaching at Playford was great fun on the way home BUT we had Sunday to recover, I understand we could play them on Saturdays BUT we play in Sunday Amateur Comp so it really doesnt fit. A bus to Pirie cost Playford $870. Will this amount be covered by the SAASL. Will 1 ref go up there every week or will we have a Pirie Ref. I just cant see how this has been thought through? Im sure there will be nothing we can do but I find it odd and a touch unfair to a couple of other clubs.

Travel costs for the away teams will be covered by Pirie and the SAASL. The SAASL will also pay traveling costs for the ref's. I heard kick off times might be 12pm and 2pm. Dont think Pirie will have a C team.

[guti]

Geez you guys whinge, it's one trip a year (two if you get drawn in the Cup against them).

[Jay Walking]

I thought should an entity fold or merge, then it goes back to the bottom of the league and 3rd place in the next div gets the call up?

usual case, but in this instance it could be the name stayes and they just get the players, therefore not a new team, while changing of where they play is an issue though

Why is that an issue. Lots of clubs change grounds year by year. Grove and Adelaide Villa have all had different homes over the last couple of seasons.

[Robbo]

SAASL

South Australian Amateur Sooks League



big bloody deal

[Aldo Serena]

In all seriousness, I think there is no issue having a regional team in the league. However, it seems the rules have been 'bent' to allow them to take USC Lion's spot in Div 2 Sunday.

[Jay Walking]

Was told tonight that Port Pirie has merged with USC Lion, but (apparently) Usc Lion is going to Saturdays and Port Pirie (Savoy) are taking the spot of USC lion in Div2 Sundays. Port Pirie will have their home games in Port Pirie and the SAASL will accomadate all teams with a sum of money to travel to their ground. Very interesting senario which brings a few questions. If a Club merges doesnt that mean they join as one team ? If so why is lion now going to Saturdays ?? Is some of the lion Players staying to play Sunday with Port pirie ?? Are port pirie adding the name Lion to their name ??.................................. Hope some of this can be cleared up. if not some questions need to asked soon !! Doesnt seem to fit in with the rules if the answer to these questions are inadequate.

PS............... Good to see you again Swansong !! Hope to catch up next time we play the Knights !!

The Amateur League does a great job and they have made really good decisions BUT this one in my opinion is a bit dodgey.

Port Pirie coming into Sunday Div 2 is ridiculous. To say they have merged with USC Lion is as close to a lie as Ive ever heard. They havent amalgamated? They have simply taken USC lions place, do they have 1 committee or 2? Will they have a reserves team? There advert in the Pirie Paper asks for a Senior coach only? This leaves Munno Para and Brahma Lodge in a bit of turmoil. To go and play in Pirie on a Sunday is just short of stupid. In my opinion and I had to do this twice a year when coaching at Playford was great fun on the way home BUT we had Sunday to recover, I understand we could play them on Saturdays BUT we play in Sunday Amateur Comp so it really doesnt fit. A bus to Pirie cost Playford $870. Will this amount be covered by the SAASL. Will 1 ref go up there every week or will we have a Pirie Ref. I just cant see how this has been thought through? Im sure there will be nothing we can do but I find it odd and a touch unfair to a couple of other clubs.

Why would Brahma or Munno Para in turmoil. USC Lion were relegated from Sun Div 1 so there is a place in Div 2 for them. It thats USC Port Pirie then so be it. No one complained when Victor Harbour, Murray Bridge or McLaren Vale came into the league.

Sure we play on Sundays but some clubs have moved games from Sunday to Friday nights previously.

I don't think a bus trip home from Pirie requires a day to recover. Maybe an alcohol fuelled trip does but its up to the individual if they want to go to work with a hang over or not. The main issue I see is if someone was hospitalised and needed to stay overnight and they caught a bus up there. Highly unlikely but a possibility.

If they are ex FFSA, they might be quite a strong team and we may see them in Sunday Div 1 in 2011. Imgaine the Gardens, Vale and Downs boys heading up there for the day. It would double the towns income