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Blotto wrote:maybe.... :) and who might I be speaking to? :P (I have a fair idea who it is...)

I get what you're saying about people leaving and I dont want to say this too piss anyone off but going to Stirling from Mount Barker back in those days was like going from from Colchester United to Manchester United.... Stirling was on a whole other level down to its facilities, coaching (Big Kev as a goalkeeping coach was fantastic to me even though i was ordinary at best and will gladly be the first to admit it) and then you had Peter Buckley who did it all with Stirling) etc

Don't get me wrong. I had a ball playing at Mount Barker under Buston even though we got flogged (who could forget the Vllaznian Riot) but it was the lack of support of the club in general towards the seniors that annoyed this cabernet out of me more than anything. I remember I went to an AGM after the season ended and walked out disgusted by the attitude of the club towards the seniors. The opportunity came up about moving to Stirling, so I left along with Scotty. I remember a few people getting pissed off about it but what can you do?

I want to see Mount Barker United grow (ask Mt Barker senior rep who I talk to regularly about all this crap) but I do beleive the club itself needs to take its seniors more seriously (as I said earlier, it seems they are going down the right path with a Seniors Committe and a good President) as the last thing you want as you posted is good players leaving after one season as they think they could do better elsewhere.

Also once again, not meaning to bait anyone here but I was at the Mt Barker/Hahndorf game a few weeks back and Hahndorf had been warming up for at least 1/2 before kickoff of the A's and the Mount Barker players were still rocking up and stuffing around 5 minutes before kickoff and didnt really even do a proper warm up. Hopefully a new coach will bring a litte more professionalism to its players approach.

The potential there for the Mount Barker seniors is huge, just needs to the Club's support and a coach (the club shouldnt be dangling the cash carrot here as they'll get someone for 1 season who will only be there for the money and then will piss off back down to town, they should be looking for someone who is dedicated and can grow with the club) to take the club to a new level so the juniors worth their salt dont piss off to other clubs as they feel they can do better.
You're probably right in who you think I am. :wink:
I think all your points there are valid, and understandable.

Mt Barker was (is?) in a slightly different position to a lot of clubs as we (they) were previously a juniors-only club, with a much lower soccer-playing population density around than compared to the city, and close (in Hills terms) to 3 very well established clubs. A lot of the original players to come in were also 1. straight up from juniors, 2. hadn't played for a while (or even in Adelaide), and 3. were in the young family and kids stage of their lives, and didn't really have the time.

It's difficult to change a mindset of a club, especially with a committee that had as their main focus the junior sides - all what? 15? 16 of them - and fair enough too as they were kids' parents. That and no-one in the club had experience with actually running a senior side, not just playing/captaining etc. It's a very different experience where I am now (Uni) like you found at Stirling to some extend; division 1-oriented with a lot of guys that have been there, done that, with the club starting kids teams...

I remember you talking about that AGM. Your (and especially Scott's) move to Stirling was pretty understandable (if disappointing at the time), and the person that I'm guessing was directly unhappy with you guys disappeared within a month anyway (resurfacing at Strath).

Playing against Mt Barkers' reserves side this year was interesting - a bunch of mostly kids, and some talented ones at that. If they stick around, and stick together for a couple of years, and they'll be moving up the league.
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Chade wrote: You're probably right in who you think I am. :wink:
I think all your points there are valid, and understandable.

Mt Barker was (is?) in a slightly different position to a lot of clubs as we (they) were previously a juniors-only club, with a much lower soccer-playing population density around than compared to the city, and close (in Hills terms) to 3 very well established clubs. A lot of the original players to come in were also 1. straight up from juniors, 2. hadn't played for a while (or even in Adelaide), and 3. were in the young family and kids stage of their lives, and didn't really have the time.

It's difficult to change a mindset of a club, especially with a committee that had as their main focus the junior sides - all what? 15? 16 of them - and fair enough too as they were kids' parents. That and no-one in the club had experience with actually running a senior side, not just playing/captaining etc. It's a very different experience where I am now (Uni) like you found at Stirling to some extend; division 1-oriented with a lot of guys that have been there, done that, with the club starting kids teams...

I remember you talking about that AGM. Your (and especially Scott's) move to Stirling was pretty understandable (if disappointing at the time), and the person that I'm guessing was directly unhappy with you guys disappeared within a month anyway (resurfacing at Strath).

Playing against Mt Barkers' reserves side this year was interesting - a bunch of mostly kids, and some talented ones at that. If they stick around, and stick together for a couple of years, and they'll be moving up the league.
yep, I was smack on with who I thought it was. :) Good to hear from you again mate, and good to see you're still playing. (I actually was at the game at MTB where you were on the bench. I was going to come over and say Hi but wasnt sure if you would remember me. Say Hi to your parent's for me. To be perfectly honest, I felt bad about leaving Mt Barker how I did. (The coach in question at the time still hasnt spoken to me - but I understand his frustration and the reasons why he bailed on the club (lack of support). I also have spoken to the next coach they had who more or less left under the same cicumstances - lack of support and was amazed at how badly the club was run) it doesnt take a genius to work out that something was wrong in how the club viewed its Seniors.

Yeah, I get what you are saying about a club changing its mindset. It just pains me to see such promising juniors having no choice to leave for Stirling or the Hawks if they were good enough when they came to the end of their junior career. You can be a junior club for so long until these kids grow up and then what? either move to another soccer club or worse yet, move over to Aussie Rules. If the club was setup correctly giving some of these talented juniors hope of staying at the club and playing for a quality seniors side. Off topic a bit here but when I was younger playing senior colts Football at Hahndorf, It was my goal to make the A grade side and I busted my balls to make it happen. When I finally did it was a huge step. I just felt these kids at Mount Barker dont have the same ambition (well they didnt back then) to make that step up as the seniors side of the club has been so poorly run (coaching changes) and under appreciated by the club itself. The aim here should be make these kids want to strive towards and have pride to make that seniors A grade team. (Stirling has this and it seems Hahndorf does too)

But as I said, it looks like Mount Barker is heading in the right direction with the creation of a senior committe (Mt Barker senior rep is a credit to this and the club needs more people like him) and a decent president who plays in the C's and seems like he actually cares about the seniors side of things)

As you said the B's teams at Mount Barker are a young lively bunch with massive potential. (TBH I was actually more impressed with Barker's B's style of play against Hahndorf than their A grade team who just seem intent on lobbing it up the field and hoping their strikers can latch onto the odd long ball - Older wiser teams will mop that shit up all day long)

I just hope these younger kids stick around a get their shot in the A's and the coach they do hire isnt there just because the club is dangling a cash carrot as I believe they will be in the same position 12 months down the track...
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Sounds like a tough gig, even with masses of juniors coming through.
But the right coach could create a lasting legacy if he stuck around for a few years.
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otto62 wrote:Sounds like a tough gig, even with masses of juniors coming through.
But the right coach could create a lasting legacy if he stuck around for a few years.
yep... my thoughts exactly...

IMO they need to hire a coach who will be willing to grow with the club who'll they'll back and support to the hilt.

think of the Stirling/Buckley combo when he took over while we were in Div 2. Look where that went. Granted, Buckley had the luxury of pulling fringe players from the Hawks over to the club but still, the club backed him and they went from strength to strength.
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Blotto wrote:yep, I was smack on with who I thought it was. :) Good to hear from you again mate, and good to see you're still playing. (I actually was at the game at MTB where you were on the bench. I was going to come over and say Hi but wasnt sure if you would remember me. Say Hi to your parent's for me. To be perfectly honest, I felt bad about leaving Mt Barker how I did. (The coach in question at the time still hasnt spoken to me - but I understand his frustration and the reasons why he bailed on the club (lack of support). I also have spoken to the next coach they had who more or less left under the same cicumstances - lack of support and was amazed at how badly the club was run) it doesnt take a genius to work out that something was wrong in how the club viewed its Seniors.

Yeah, I get what you are saying about a club changing its mindset. It just pains me to see such promising juniors having no choice to leave for Stirling or the Hawks if they were good enough when they came to the end of their junior career. You can be a junior club for so long until these kids grow up and then what? either move to another soccer club or worse yet, move over to Aussie Rules. If the club was setup correctly giving some of these talented juniors hope of staying at the club and playing for a quality seniors side. Off topic a bit here but when I was younger playing senior colts Football at Hahndorf, It was my goal to make the A grade side and I busted my balls to make it happen. When I finally did it was a huge step. I just felt these kids at Mount Barker dont have the same ambition (well they didnt back then) to make that step up as the seniors side of the club has been so poorly run (coaching changes) and under appreciated by the club itself. The aim here should be make these kids want to strive towards and have pride to make that seniors A grade team. (Stirling has this and it seems Hahndorf does too)

But as I said, it looks like Mount Barker is heading in the right direction with the creation of a senior committe (Mt Barker senior rep is a credit to this and the club needs more people like him) and a decent president who plays in the C's and seems like he actually cares about the seniors side of things)

As you said the B's teams at Mount Barker are a young lively bunch with massive potential. (TBH I was actually more impressed with Barker's B's style of play against Hahndorf than their A grade team who just seem intent on lobbing it up the field and hoping their strikers can latch onto the odd long ball - Older wiser teams will mop that cabernet up all day long)

I just hope these younger kids stick around a get their shot in the A's and the coach they do hire isnt there just because the club is dangling a cash carrot as I believe they will be in the same position 12 months down the track...
Heh. You too. I've been playing when I'm not injured, but got most of a season in. >.< Don't worry, I'm pretty good with remembering faces... :)
Yeah, it was an awkward year that year. Considering we were playing div 2 saturday with a group of guys that (half of them) are now playing division 5 saturday... up against Stirling aiming for a rebound back to div 1... :? When I read the Courier and found out the same group is still playing together it gave me a laugh, good bunch of kids... blokes. :)

It's a massive boost for a club to have a pathway for kids like that - especially for the years that I and my brother were coming through from u16s, there were a lot of good players, almost none of which are now playing (my brother's not playing either - chronic back issues).

Having a local Mt Barker, Littlehampton, Nairne etc.-based coach is what they ideally would want, but I dunno that the person's there... Mind you, there's always a couple of surprising people living in the Hills...
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IMO they had the right coach in Ed Berger (heaps of experience with Adelaide City juniors I beleive etc and based at Dawesley) but he got jack of how the club was run and lack of support he was getting and left....
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Mt Barker Snr Rep wrote:Just on another note, I would like to correct the post provided by Miss Magic earlier. The rooms that the Vipers used as changerooms on Saturday were in fact the storage rooms. They were opened becuase that is where the club stores the items required to undertake a game of soccer. The visiting club decided to use these rooms without consultation with the home team (as is my understanding). The changerooms are in the same building, but are not in the storage room - at the top of the hill rather than the bottom.

If the change rooms were not open, I would need to look into that, but there are change rooms, and they are fully equipped with showers, toilets and a changing area. They are maintained by Cornerstone college and have been in perfect condition throughout the year as they are cleaned on a regular basis and are relatively new. I have used these changerooms myself on numerous occasions and have been able to speak to all of the players at once without any issue.

I feel that this attack on the Mount Barker Soccer club is unwarranted as we have improved our facilities by a considerable amount this year. Whilst we have room for improvement we feel that our change rooms are by far much better than any club that we have visited in 2009. (I can only refer to the Sat Division 6 teams that I have watched this year, so this is in no way a comparison towards any other club outside this division).

Whilst I understand that not everyone can provide perfect changing facilities for each team, we have to be realistic here - we are here to play soccer afterall. I feel that it is not best practice to slander another team especially when your own facilities are by no means perfect to begin with.

Thank you.

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I NEVER ONCE SAID OUR FACILITIES WERE PERFECT BUT WE ATLEAST OFFERED SOME.I DONT WISH TO BE NEGATIVE AS I UNDERSTAND IT IS NOT EASY TO GET A CLUB OFF THE GROUND.I AM MERELY BRINGING AN ISSUE TO YOUR ATTENTION.I WISH MOUNT BARKER SOCCER CLUB ALL THE BEST FOR THE FUTURE AS I THINK YOU HAVE A GOOD BUNCH OF GUYS AND THAT IS HALF THE BATTLE. :)
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Ed Berger did a great job at Stirling for the two years he was there (1995-96). Focused on skills & was excellent at encouraging and developing young players. IMO that was where Stirling's rise started. But he'd done his job by the end of the second year developing a core group of teenagers with skill who bonded well together.

Rob Booth came in next (1997-98) & focused on tactical development. Again after two years he had done his job, leaving us with the same core group of players now in their early 20's who knew how to play together.

James Brown inherited this hungry group, kept the skill & tactics & put some guts & determination in them. That won us our first senior championship (1999) in the clubs 32nd year (we must have been the losingest club in the SAASL up till then). He took us to 4th in Div 1 (2000) & then quit as coach.

**ahem** (lets now bypass our disastrous relegation year)

That's when Buckley came in & IMO put Stirling on the map.
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Here's hoping the current crop of players can overcome the slump & keep the ball rolling.
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Hi everyone first time poster

Mount barker is a fantastic club but there are a few issues that need to be sorted out if there senior team especcially the A's are going to succed.

Obviously they need a good first team coach who isnt going to take any bull from the players Gary has done a fantastic job its no wonder he dosent want the job any more as he is constantly getting let down by a small number of the first teamers.

I have played my first season with Mnt Barker after coming over from england and when i went to the first training session i was pleasantly suprised there were a good number of people (maybe 30) and the session was organised and fun but when we started getting into the season the numbers started to drop and i mean dramatically by the end of the season were were getting about eight people and this was mostly made up of c teamers most time i was the only a-b player there!!! never in my life have i played for a team were if you didnt come to training you still got to play a-b football i mean do you thing if wayne rooney didnt go to training sir Alex would pick him? i dont think so, if you dont turn up to training you should be dropped down to c's and let some one have a chance because there are a few decent players in the c squad who never get a chance even tought they turn up to trainig every week, so thats another issue.

They have great playing surface and they need to get the ball rolling down the thing sorted out, maybe on idea is that they turn the picth around? just a thought and of course they need to get to get some food and drink sorted and then maybe a few more people might stay behind and support the a's and b's

I would love to play for mnt barker next season but these issues have to be sorted out i will go out to a few training sessions to see whats changed and if its the same im of to stirling as id rather play in there c team than play for a dissorganised mnt barker b team and that would be a shame as there all a lovley bunch of blokes. Heres hoping !!!!

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That's the beauty about being forced to play a season in these lower divisions!!!!!

Glad to say it's all over now that Africa have been sent packing.....great to see my mates at Sailsbury Villa step up to the plate...know there facilities are sensational....don't know anything about Vipers though???
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Jack Mehorf wrote:great to see my mates at Sailsbury Villa step up to the plate...
Pfft.... should never have been in division two this year after incidents the previous season.
I know I am a cheeky little devil but has anyone seen Mike Hunt in the car park?
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?

Sals Villa won back to back titles.

Credit where it's due.
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No credit for using ineligible players.
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so any news on a coach for 2010?
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Dear Mooks,

Currently the position is still available for interested parties to provide their expressions of interest.

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**Top-Gun-Jimmy-AUFC** is your man
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Dear Top Gun Jimeoin,

Thank you for the recommendation, if '**Top-Gun-Jimmy-AUFC**' wishes to pursue this offer then the contact details are available here:
E-mail: seniors-manager@mbusc.com.au
Postal:PO Box 940, Mount Barker SA 5251
Website: http://www.mbusc.com.au/

In addition I have a telephone number available upon request (e-mail or private message), or if anyone wishes for the club to contact them, please e-mail and/or private message their contact details and we will be happy to discuss the position with them.

Just in case any potential players are interested, the same contact details can be used if you wish to play for Mount Barker in 2010.

Thank you.

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:lol:
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Mt Barker Snr Rep wrote:Dear Top Gun Jimeoin,

Thank you for the recommendation, if '**Top-Gun-Jimmy-AUFC**' wishes to pursue this offer then the contact details are available here:
E-mail: seniors-manager@mbusc.com.au
Postal:PO Box 940, Mount Barker SA 5251
Website: http://www.mbusc.com.au/

In addition I have a telephone number available upon request (e-mail or private message), or if anyone wishes for the club to contact them, please e-mail and/or private message their contact details and we will be happy to discuss the position with them.

Just in case any potential players are interested, the same contact details can be used if you wish to play for Mount Barker in 2010.

Thank you.

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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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:lol:
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Sounds like you're not getting too many candidates there, hope you find a coach soon though as I found yuo a good club to play against in the past.
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Top Gun Jimmy is looking more and more like a shoe in. :D
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Monty's Python wrote:Top Gun Jimmy is looking more and more like a shoe in. :D
Why wouldnt he be, Top Gun Jimmy is a football genius of the Guus Hiddink ilk,
he even analyses the game without even watching it,

What sort of renumeration are Mount Barker be offering?

Are they serious about attracting a coach possibly from Adelaide, as there seems limited supply in the Hills since the job has not been filled?

I'd head up to play there if TG Jimmy was coach :wink:
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We at MBUSC have appointed the coaching position to Terry Humpfries . We at the club all look forward to him taking us forward this season
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crusader wrote:We at MBUSC have appointed the coaching position to Terry Humpfries . We at the club all look forward to him taking us forward this season
and who is he?

credentials,

Disappointing to hear TGJ did not get the role?
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