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on the ball wrote:as for taylor hopefully he gets a lengthy ban cos that tackle was a disgrace!
3 games MAXIMUM!! and quite rightly so. Eyes on the ball, da silva just nips the ball away, too quick for him. You lot are 'avin a laff' if you think it deserves more than 3 games. If he hadn't been so badly injured, would have only been a yellow. I think birmingham should appeal the red.
Haweksy, like come on mate, that is a ridiculous statement, one of the worst i have read really. Eyes on the ball??? Can you actually sit there and tell me he had eyes on the ball??? How might i ask, can you guarantee the forum he had eyes for the ball when it is quiet obvious that any player looking at a ball at an opponents feet is also looking at that opponents feet/legs??? You cant, so that in itself is a flawed opinion :wink:

I think its YOU who is having a laugh if you think it didnt deserve 3 games and i think its you having a bigger laugh, if you think Birmingham should appeal the red card decision!!! In my opinion, that was clearly a STUDS UP tackle and he had no intention of getting the ball because any defender with half a brain would of jockeyed Eduardo, especially knowing the skill level on the guy, not go in like a Bull on heat. That was a malicious challenge of the highest order, and you show no respect whatsoever to the players well being with the statement above. That tackle clean snapped both bones in his leg. It was a sickening challenge with sickening consequences for the player injured.

I propose that FIFA should start handing out suspensions for those sorts of tackles relevant to the injury. Therefor, Taylor should serve a suspension for the length of time it takes Eduardo to get back on the park. If that takes 12 to 24 months, then so be it. Why should that Dirty priiick enjoy his time on the park after he nearly and possibly ended the career of another player???

BAN THE DIRTY BASTARD FOR THE SAME TIME EDUARDO IS OUT OF THE GAME!!!
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COLOSSUS.. most of what you just said was good but for the bit about taylor being banned for as long as eduardo is out.. PURE CRAP!! never heard of anything more ridiculous than that shit!! get a grip.. give the man a ban and make it harsh but for as long as eduardo's injury.. c'mon buddy
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chelsea91 wrote:COLOSSUS.. most of what you just said was good but for the bit about taylor being banned for as long as eduardo is out.. PURE CRAP!! never heard anything more ridiculous than that cabernet!! get a grip.. give the man a ban and make it harsh but for as long as eduardo's injury.. c'mon buddy
its excessive but ask how many more players would get their legs broken in the future?
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Yes but everyone makes mistakes and in Taylor's case he has made a big mistake which could end a talented players career but still cant give this guy 12 -24 months on the sidelines.
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COLOSSUS wrote:Haweksy, like come on mate, that is a ridiculous statement, one of the worst i have read really. Eyes on the ball??? Can you actually sit there and tell me he had eyes on the ball??? How might i ask, can you guarantee the forum he had eyes for the ball when it is quiet obvious that any player looking at a ball at an opponents feet is also looking at that opponents feet/legs??? You cant, so that in itself is a flawed opinion :wink:

I think its YOU who is having a laugh if you think it didnt deserve 3 games and i think its you having a bigger laugh, if you think Birmingham should appeal the red card decision!!! In my opinion, that was clearly a STUDS UP tackle and he had no intention of getting the ball because any defender with half a brain would of jockeyed Eduardo, especially knowing the skill level on the guy, not go in like a Bull on heat. That was a malicious challenge of the highest order, and you show no respect whatsoever to the players well being with the statement above. That tackle clean snapped both bones in his leg. It was a sickening challenge with sickening consequences for the player injured.

I propose that FIFA should start handing out suspensions for those sorts of tackles relevant to the injury. Therefor, Taylor should serve a suspension for the length of time it takes Eduardo to get back on the park. If that takes 12 to 24 months, then so be it. Why should that Dirty priiick enjoy his time on the park after he nearly and possibly ended the career of another player???

BAN THE DIRTY BASTARD FOR THE SAME TIME EDUARDO IS OUT OF THE GAME!!!
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Best post ever. :lol:

You are making my points for me. If the ball is at his feet, then clearly the ball is there to be won.

Go away and compare and contrast the other fouls I have highlighted and tell me how they deserve less of a punishment than that one.

I was involved in a challenge 2 seasonsago where a guy ended up with his leg broken in 2 places, operations and in a wheel chair for a while. I believe the guy is still not playing. Should I have been banned for this whole time.

Let the foul deem the punishment, not the injury.
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chelsea91 wrote:COLOSSUS.. most of what you just said was good but for the bit about taylor being banned for as long as eduardo is out.. PURE CRAP!! never heard of anything more ridiculous than that cabernet!! get a grip.. give the man a ban and make it harsh but for as long as eduardo's injury.. c'mon buddy
Sorry Chelsea, but truth is this, Eduardo will more than likely never be the same player he was. That being the case, his potential earnings for his career will drop because not many big clubs will chase his services and he will be destined to play for clubs that are middle or lower in the dollar spending. Have a look at Djibril Cisse, he was scoring week in week out for Liverpool until he snapped his leg and then Liverpool got rid of him because he wasnt the same player. He ended up breaking his leg again for France. Eduardos chances of re-breaking that leg will always be high and therefor he would be more of liability to Arsenal or to whomever else is looking to sign him once he gets back from the injury if he ever does of course.

I dont think my proposal is harsh at all. Maybe a harsh reality of what will happen to you, if you tackle like a Donkey, but certainly not harsh in terms of suspension. Think about what this has just done to Eduardos career. Why should players like Taylor earn the maximum monies they can in their careers when they have disadvantaged another players earnings with reckless challenges???

My proposal also like Pires said, would send out the message to these Donkeys that those sorts of tackles are not going to be tolerated at any level of the game, especially at the highest level where they are supposed to be role models for spectators, children and players around the world looking to one day further their careers. You cant honestly tell me that that would be such a bad thing, could you???
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COLOSSUS wrote:Sorry Chelsea, but truth is this, Eduardo will more than likely never be the same player he was. That being the case, his potential earnings for his career will drop because not many big clubs will chase his services and he will be destined to play for clubs that are middle or lower in the dollar spending. Have a look at Djibril Cisse, he was scoring week in week out for Liverpool until he snapped his leg and then Liverpool got rid of him because he wasnt the same player. He ended up breaking his leg again for France. Eduardos chances of re-breaking that leg will always be high and therefor he would be more of liability to Arsenal or to whomever else is looking to sign him once he gets back from the injury if he ever does of course.

I dont think my proposal is harsh at all. Maybe a harsh reality of what will happen to you, if you tackle like a Donkey, but certainly not harsh in terms of suspension. Think about what this has just done to Eduardos career. Why should players like Taylor earn the maximum monies they can in their careers when they have disadvantaged another players earnings with reckless challenges???

My proposal also like Pires said, would send out the message to these Donkeys that those sorts of tackles are not going to be tolerated at any level of the game, especially at the highest level where they are supposed to be role models for spectators, children and players around the world looking to one day further their careers. You cant honestly tell me that that would be such a bad thing, could you???
I can honestly tell you it's a bad thing. You would make players afraid to ever make a tackle. In the sport that I love, a beautiful tackle is one to behold (who has not marvelled at moore's tackle on pele in 70). If you take tackling out of the game, you win the game.

Your comments on players careers are valid in terms of economics but I counter with, all clubs have insurance to cover such evantualities from the club and the players perspective. PLUS they would normally hold a testimonial in such occurrences as well. Not to mention if we are talking about da silva specifically. What a hardship, I mean 60K ponds a week for the next 3 years of his contract. I'd hate that.

Medically you are also wrong. A broken leg actually heals stronger than the original bone, it actually becomes the strongest part of the leg.
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COLOSSUS wrote:Haweksy, like come on mate, that is a ridiculous statement, one of the worst i have read really. Eyes on the ball??? Can you actually sit there and tell me he had eyes on the ball??? How might i ask, can you guarantee the forum he had eyes for the ball when it is quiet obvious that any player looking at a ball at an opponents feet is also looking at that opponents feet/legs??? You cant, so that in itself is a flawed opinion :wink:

I think its YOU who is having a laugh if you think it didnt deserve 3 games and i think its you having a bigger laugh, if you think Birmingham should appeal the red card decision!!! In my opinion, that was clearly a STUDS UP tackle and he had no intention of getting the ball because any defender with half a brain would of jockeyed Eduardo, especially knowing the skill level on the guy, not go in like a Bull on heat. That was a malicious challenge of the highest order, and you show no respect whatsoever to the players well being with the statement above. That tackle clean snapped both bones in his leg. It was a sickening challenge with sickening consequences for the player injured.

I propose that FIFA should start handing out suspensions for those sorts of tackles relevant to the injury. Therefor, Taylor should serve a suspension for the length of time it takes Eduardo to get back on the park. If that takes 12 to 24 months, then so be it. Why should that Dirty priiick enjoy his time on the park after he nearly and possibly ended the career of another player???

BAN THE DIRTY BASTARD FOR THE SAME TIME EDUARDO IS OUT OF THE GAME!!!
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Best post ever. :lol:

You are making my points for me. If the ball is at his feet, then clearly the ball is there to be won.

Go away and compare and contrast the other fouls I have highlighted and tell me how they deserve less of a punishment than that one.

I was involved in a challenge 2 seasonsago where a guy ended up with his leg broken in 2 places, operations and in a wheel chair for a while. I believe the guy is still not playing. Should I have been banned for this whole time.

Let the foul deem the punishment, not the injury.
So you are telling me that because the ball was at his feet, Taylor had eyes only for that ball??? You are a clown mate, if thats how you see it, then clearly you are a clown, sorry mate.
The ball is their to won, i agree, but answer these questions, could Taylor have not jockeyed Eduardo??? Could Taylor have not used STUDS UP for his challenge??? And more importantly, did Taylor have any chance of getting that ball??? Mate, dont be blinded by the facts, and the facts are, Taylor laid a challenge with BOTH OF HIS FEET, WITH ALL STUDS SHOWING, IT WAS MALICIOUS, IT WAS RECKLESS, AND IT SNAPPED BOTH BONES IN EDUARDOS LEG, they my friend are the facts of the matter!!!

There is no need for me to compare this with any other tackles because whats not to say those other tackles you talk about werent also not dealt with properly in regards to suspension??? Thats just plain stupid, that is pal.

And the tackle that you laid 2 seasons ago might not have been malicious. There are legs that are broken accidentally, so onec again, stupid and irrelevant. Clearly in the case of Eduardo, he was butchered by a Donkey with no brains, and i stand by the fact that Taylors intent was clear for all to see, and that had nothing to do with playing Football, simple!!!
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MUFCBOY wrote:joe coles tackle on ronaldo http://youtube.com/watch?v=BxG6OaQUCgI
morrisons tackle on ronaldo http://youtube.com/watch?v=twn7_4dWS5Q

the morrison tackle is worse then taylors, the only thing that makes taylors bad is the injury 2 eduardo
2 more tackles, thanks MUFC boy, both worse than Taylors.
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people shuld let it go..by the look of him..he didnt mean it..he lookd like he was going to die..im sure he doesnt have a history of going in like dat every week..look at the tackle..his eyes on the ball..and if eduardo didnt touch it..he would of won it cleanly..if he wasnt injured as bad..people wouldnt talk..the tackle was disguisting..but he didnt intend to do it
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Hawkesy wrote:
MUFCBOY wrote:joe coles tackle on ronaldo http://youtube.com/watch?v=BxG6OaQUCgI
morrisons tackle on ronaldo http://youtube.com/watch?v=twn7_4dWS5Q

the morrison tackle is worse then taylors, the only thing that makes taylors bad is the injury 2 eduardo
2 more tackles, thanks MUFC boy, both worse than Taylors.
well its true... the morrison 1 was more reckless then taylors
i jst think arsenal fans r pissed off at the fact eduardo broke his leg, but fair enuff... but taylor shouldnt get banned for more then the red card is worth

stop worryin about taylors tackle and focus on eduardos recovery
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COLOSSUS wrote:So you are telling me that because the ball was at his feet, Taylor had eyes only for that ball??? You are a clown mate, if thats how you see it, then clearly you are a clown, sorry mate.
The ball is their to won, i agree, but answer these questions, could Taylor have not jockeyed Eduardo??? Could Taylor have not used STUDS UP for his challenge??? And more importantly, did Taylor have any chance of getting that ball??? Mate, dont be blinded by the facts, and the facts are, Taylor laid a challenge with BOTH OF HIS FEET, WITH ALL STUDS SHOWING, IT WAS MALICIOUS, IT WAS RECKLESS, AND IT SNAPPED BOTH BONES IN EDUARDOS LEG, they my friend are the facts of the matter!!!

There is no need for me to compare this with any other tackles because whats not to say those other tackles you talk about werent also not dealt with properly in regards to suspension??? Thats just plain stupid, that is pal.

And the tackle that you laid 2 seasons ago might not have been malicious. There are legs that are broken accidentally, so onec again, stupid and irrelevant. Clearly in the case of Eduardo, he was butchered by a Donkey with no brains, and i stand by the fact that Taylors intent was clear for all to see, and that had nothing to do with playing Football, simple!!!
I'm a clown :lol:

First of all, I have never said that becase the ball is at his feet he only has eyes for the ball. But the facts are this, the ball is there to be won, the facts are it is not a punishable offence to not jockey the player.

The facts are, experts such as Mark Lawrenson and Alan Hansen agree with me and disagree with you.

I stand by my opinion that Taylor intended to play the ball but da silva was just too quick for him by pushing the ball away at the last moment.

As I have said

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on the ball wrote:as for taylor hopefully he gets a lengthy ban cos that tackle was a disgrace!
3 games MAXIMUM!! and quite rightly so. Eyes on the ball, da silva just nips the ball away, too quick for him. You lot are 'avin a laff' if you think it deserves more than 3 games. If he hadn't been so badly injured, would have only been a yellow. I think birmingham should appeal the red.
Haweksy, like come on mate, that is a ridiculous statement, one of the worst i have read really. Eyes on the ball??? Can you actually sit there and tell me he had eyes on the ball??? How might i ask, can you guarantee the forum he had eyes for the ball when it is quiet obvious that any player looking at a ball at an opponents feet is also looking at that opponents feet/legs??? You cant, so that in itself is a flawed opinion :wink:

I think its YOU who is having a laugh if you think it didnt deserve 3 games and i think its you having a bigger laugh, if you think Birmingham should appeal the red card decision!!! In my opinion, that was clearly a STUDS UP tackle and he had no intention of getting the ball because any defender with half a brain would of jockeyed Eduardo, especially knowing the skill level on the guy, not go in like a Bull on heat. That was a malicious challenge of the highest order, and you show no respect whatsoever to the players well being with the statement above. That tackle clean snapped both bones in his leg. It was a sickening challenge with sickening consequences for the player injured.

I propose that FIFA should start handing out suspensions for those sorts of tackles relevant to the injury. Therefor, Taylor should serve a suspension for the length of time it takes Eduardo to get back on the park. If that takes 12 to 24 months, then so be it. Why should that Dirty priiick enjoy his time on the park after he nearly and possibly ended the career of another player???

BAN THE DIRTY BASTARD FOR THE SAME TIME EDUARDO IS OUT OF THE GAME!!!
well can u garauntee the forum he was lookin at his legs??? a player lookin at the opponents feet can also b lookin at the ball.... wats ur point?
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has any one got any more footage of the tackle
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COLOSSUS wrote:
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on the ball wrote:as for taylor hopefully he gets a lengthy ban cos that tackle was a disgrace!
3 games MAXIMUM!! and quite rightly so. Eyes on the ball, da silva just nips the ball away, too quick for him. You lot are 'avin a laff' if you think it deserves more than 3 games. If he hadn't been so badly injured, would have only been a yellow. I think birmingham should appeal the red.
Haweksy, like come on mate, that is a ridiculous statement, one of the worst i have read really. Eyes on the ball??? Can you actually sit there and tell me he had eyes on the ball??? How might i ask, can you guarantee the forum he had eyes for the ball when it is quiet obvious that any player looking at a ball at an opponents feet is also looking at that opponents feet/legs??? You cant, so that in itself is a flawed opinion :wink:

I think its YOU who is having a laugh if you think it didnt deserve 3 games and i think its you having a bigger laugh, if you think Birmingham should appeal the red card decision!!! In my opinion, that was clearly a STUDS UP tackle and he had no intention of getting the ball because any defender with half a brain would of jockeyed Eduardo, especially knowing the skill level on the guy, not go in like a Bull on heat. That was a malicious challenge of the highest order, and you show no respect whatsoever to the players well being with the statement above. That tackle clean snapped both bones in his leg. It was a sickening challenge with sickening consequences for the player injured.

I propose that FIFA should start handing out suspensions for those sorts of tackles relevant to the injury. Therefor, Taylor should serve a suspension for the length of time it takes Eduardo to get back on the park. If that takes 12 to 24 months, then so be it. Why should that Dirty priiick enjoy his time on the park after he nearly and possibly ended the career of another player???

BAN THE DIRTY BASTARD FOR THE SAME TIME EDUARDO IS OUT OF THE GAME!!!
totally agree col.

his legs wouldn't have been snapped in 4 places for no reason.

the guys fucken got him so good it clearly snapped his leg muscles.

i just hope eduardo's back for 09/10 season :cry:
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well what about this by scott parker

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=s_tdBdoCA5s

its not so reckless because he gets the ball but it looks bad
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funny how arsenal fans didnt respond to their player bad tackle :lol:
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ronaldo07 wrote:funny how arsenal fans didnt respond to their player bad tackle :lol:
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ronaldo07 wrote:funny how arsenal fans didnt respond to their player bad tackle :lol:
can you please shut up.

Only if u goners stop abusing taylor ..
i cant stand u guys keep complaining bout the tackle, when u guys r actually the bad tackler
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ronaldo07 wrote:
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ronaldo07 wrote:funny how arsenal fans didnt respond to their player bad tackle :lol:
can you please shut up.

Only if u goners stop abusing taylor ..
i cant stand u guys keep complaining bout the tackle, when u guys r actually the bad tackler
:lol: :lol: :lol: the bad tackler, oh u make me sick with these comments. fucken shocking
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yeh its ok for flamini 2 go in the way he did against nani!!!
his tackle was more reckless then taylors
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taylors tackle was reckless but it wasnt the worst tackle of all time. far from it.

i have to agree with hawksey on this one.

the bloke's probably feeling pretty bad about the whole situation too.

he deserves a few matches because of the severity of the tackle not because of the severity of da silva's injury.

people tackle hard in the premier league and sometimes legs get broken. wat can i say. should everyone who injures a player be suspended for the length of that player's injury? i dont think so. that would jus be stupid, and taylor's tackle is no different

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MUFCBOY wrote:yeh its ok for flamini 2 go in the way he did against nani!!!
his tackle was more reckless then taylors
oh you have to be joking.

both his feet were on the ground and he got the fucken ball. it was a good strong challenge that everyone likes cause he got ball and man
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That tackle on Eduardo was a disgrace. Poor bloke, just starting tpo hit some form and starting to score some goals, working well with adebayor. That prick from birmingham should be sent to jail. Not only dz Eduardo miss out on Arsenals premiership assualt, but he misses the Champions League AND the Euro 2008....................................
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Club releases statement with update on Eduardo injury


The Club can confirm that following the incident during Saturday’s match at Birmingham City, Eduardo has fractured his left fibula and sustained an open dislocation of his ankle joint in the same leg.

He was immediately taken to Selly Oak Hospital in Birmingham where he underwent surgery on Saturday evening. The operation was successful and Eduardo was transferred to a London-based hospital on Sunday afternoon.

Earlier today (Monday 25th February), the Orthopaedic surgeon and Arsenal medical staff assessed the extent of the damage and possible time scale for a full recovery.

All being well, Eduardo will have his leg in plaster and using crutches for the next six to eight weeks. After that time, partial weight-bearing exercises will be scheduled into a slow rehabilitation process.

It is hoped that Eduardo will be running again in six months time and making a full recovery after nine months.

Eduardo will be released from hospital in a few days.

The Arsenal medical team would like to take this opportunity to thank Birmingham City FC for their assistance on the day as well as the surgical and ward staff on S2 at Selly Oak Hospital for their expert medical care.

In addition, and on behalf of Eduardo, the Club would like to thank everyone for their many touching messages of support.
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Rigoni 10 wrote:
MUFCBOY wrote:yeh its ok for flamini 2 go in the way he did against nani!!!
his tackle was more reckless then taylors
oh you have to be joking.

both his feet were on the ground and he got the shiraz ball. it was a good strong challenge that everyone likes cause he got ball and man
oh rigoni plz... u only have 2 look at how far flamini sprinted in order 2 put that tackle in, he went flying!!

i didnt c anythin wrong with taylors tackle, was jst unlucky...

if taylor wanted 2 injure sum1 delibratly, then y not line up adebyaor who is a much betta player and has more of on impact
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=eICosCFiR6U&feature=related

flamini.... now this was like the nani 1, jst slid in from nowhere
even scholes is a better tackler ;)
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