HELLAS SQUAD FOR JUNE 07

Paleon Patros Germanos · Fri May 25, 2007 11:50 am

We need more Kalamatianoi in the side.

Oh and maybe a couple of Rodites

The Kop · Post by **The Kop** » Fri May 25, 2007 12:04 pm

Lymberopoulos, theres your token Kalamatiano.
Papastathopoulos is a born and bred Kalo too.

As for Rodites....we're all too busy enjoying the best beaches in the world to play mpala....

olympiakos · Post by **olympiakos** » Fri May 25, 2007 6:03 pm

The Kop wrote:Lymberopoulos, theres your token Kalamatiano.
Papastathopoulos is a born and bred Kalo too.

As for Rodites....we're all too busy enjoying the best beaches in the world to play mpala....

Lymbe to leave AEK for Nuremberg Kop, thats the rumour as im sure u are aware, whats your opinion on that?

Motley · Post by **Motley** » Sat May 26, 2007 8:28 am

The Kop wrote:A. Papadopoulos is a defender for Aris (actually born in Sydney), not in the squad.
D. Papadopoulos is the striker for PAO that is in the squad..........

Once again....

Goumas - Papastathopoulos
Anatolakis - A Papadopoulos
Fyssas - Lagos
Vyntra - not a has been but kreas. His club mate Leonitou who has been keeping him out of his position at PAO all season.
Dellas - No one as yet.
Basinas - Illiadis.

Watch more Greek league.......you'll agree with me.
I hate these 'experts' who watch 1 derby a season and know it all.

I dont claim to know more than you are you claiming to know more than king Otto?

Tell me which station you watch the Greek league on, Antenna? or an exclusive station that is only watched by "experts"?

I understand Lagos is a good footballer and would love to see young Ninis in the squad but apart from that no room for the rest. Qualification is far too important to test the waters with your favourites.

Our coach might not watch as much of the Greek league as you but would have observers who would fill him in on the type of player he wants and what players can bring to his squad.

I will say it again, cant wait to see Otto leave so we he cant be blamed for our mediocracy that part and parcel of Greek football. Hopefully we get rid of him soon.

The Kop · Post by **The Kop** » Sat May 26, 2007 6:22 pm

I watch SuperSport1, SS2 & NET covers all games.
Didnt miss an AEK game all season, watched all 41 games. Occasionally Athlitiki Kyriakh and Super Savvato.

About Otto, his ideas are senile and outdatted.
Its well documented in player biographies, journals from the tournament and reporter insights that the experienced players carried the team. Otto had major problems communicating as his assistant/translator Toplaidis has very little football experience.
Zagorakis, Basinas, Dellas, Tsiartas, Nikolaidis, Dabizas, Nikopolidis pretty much took control of the team.

Torosidis was a quality player at Xanthi, but overlooked. He moved to Olympiakos and 2 months later he's an important player in the national team. Spyropoulos the same, killing it at Panionios. Seals a move to Olympiakos and gets called up.

Imagine if he was pro-active rather than re-active........

Motley · Post by **Motley** » Sun May 27, 2007 5:34 am

The Kop wrote:I watch SuperSport1, SS2 & NET covers all games.
Didnt miss an AEK game all season, watched all 41 games. Occasionally Athlitiki Kyriakh and Super Savvato.

About Otto, his ideas are senile and outdatted.
Its well documented in player biographies, journals from the tournament and reporter insights that the experienced players carried the team. Otto had major problems communicating as his assistant/translator Toplaidis has very little football experience.
Zagorakis, Basinas, Dellas, Tsiartas, Nikolaidis, Dabizas, Nikopolidis pretty much took control of the team.

Torosidis was a quality player at Xanthi, but overlooked. He moved to Olympiakos and 2 months later he's an important player in the national team. Spyropoulos the same, killing it at Panionios. Seals a move to Olympiakos and gets called up.

Imagine if he was pro-active rather than re-active........

Cant wait till Otto goes and more importantly we bring in a Greek to coach us. Watch tin omatha mas fly then. This outdated approach from Otto must be killing our national football team. Why do we put up with this rubbish?

Zagorakis, Basinas, Dellas, Tsiartas, Nikolaidis, Dabizas, Nikopolidis; All but 1 of those guys were part of our EURO 2004 winning team. But agreed all totally useless............

arxidi · Post by **arxidi** » Sun May 27, 2007 10:45 am

if we get a green NT coach, we are screwed. greeks will alwayss fight against themselves and ull see quality players missing out.
malakies

i think we shouldnt have a coach

olympiakos · Post by **olympiakos** » Sun May 27, 2007 11:50 am

Motley wrote:
The Kop wrote:I watch SuperSport1, SS2 & NET covers all games.
Didnt miss an AEK game all season, watched all 41 games. Occasionally Athlitiki Kyriakh and Super Savvato.

About Otto, his ideas are senile and outdatted.
Its well documented in player biographies, journals from the tournament and reporter insights that the experienced players carried the team. Otto had major problems communicating as his assistant/translator Toplaidis has very little football experience.
Zagorakis, Basinas, Dellas, Tsiartas, Nikolaidis, Dabizas, Nikopolidis pretty much took control of the team.

Torosidis was a quality player at Xanthi, but overlooked. He moved to Olympiakos and 2 months later he's an important player in the national team. Spyropoulos the same, killing it at Panionios. Seals a move to Olympiakos and gets called up.

Imagine if he was pro-active rather than re-active........
Cant wait till Otto goes and more importantly we bring in a Greek to coach us. Watch tin omatha mas fly then. This outdated approach from Otto must be killing our national football team. Why do we put up with this rubbish?

Zagorakis, Basinas, Dellas, Tsiartas, Nikolaidis, Dabizas, Nikopolidis; All but 1 of those guys were part of our EURO 2004 winning team. But agreed all totally useless............

there is no Greek good enough to coach this team, so what u are saying there is nonsense, if Otto goes it needs to be a well known and respected coach that comes in, u tell me one Greek coach thats good enough to make things happen with this team?

The Kop · Post by **The Kop** » Sun May 27, 2007 1:13 pm

Motley wrote:
The Kop wrote:I watch SuperSport1, SS2 & NET covers all games.
Didnt miss an AEK game all season, watched all 41 games. Occasionally Athlitiki Kyriakh and Super Savvato.

About Otto, his ideas are senile and outdatted.
Its well documented in player biographies, journals from the tournament and reporter insights that the experienced players carried the team. Otto had major problems communicating as his assistant/translator Toplaidis has very little football experience.
Zagorakis, Basinas, Dellas, Tsiartas, Nikolaidis, Dabizas, Nikopolidis pretty much took control of the team.

Torosidis was a quality player at Xanthi, but overlooked. He moved to Olympiakos and 2 months later he's an important player in the national team. Spyropoulos the same, killing it at Panionios. Seals a move to Olympiakos and gets called up.

Imagine if he was pro-active rather than re-active........
Cant wait till Otto goes and more importantly we bring in a Greek to coach us. Watch tin omatha mas fly then. This outdated approach from Otto must be killing our national football team. Why do we put up with this rubbish?

Zagorakis, Basinas, Dellas, Tsiartas, Nikolaidis, Dabizas, Nikopolidis; All but 1 of those guys were part of our EURO 2004 winning team. But agreed all totally useless............

They all were

And if you dont believe me about them carrying the team, perhaps you should read Tsartas' biography and Dellas Euro journal.

olympiakos · Post by **olympiakos** » Sun May 27, 2007 6:03 pm

The Kop wrote:
Motley wrote:
The Kop wrote:I watch SuperSport1, SS2 & NET covers all games.
Didnt miss an AEK game all season, watched all 41 games. Occasionally Athlitiki Kyriakh and Super Savvato.

About Otto, his ideas are senile and outdatted.
Its well documented in player biographies, journals from the tournament and reporter insights that the experienced players carried the team. Otto had major problems communicating as his assistant/translator Toplaidis has very little football experience.
Zagorakis, Basinas, Dellas, Tsiartas, Nikolaidis, Dabizas, Nikopolidis pretty much took control of the team.

Torosidis was a quality player at Xanthi, but overlooked. He moved to Olympiakos and 2 months later he's an important player in the national team. Spyropoulos the same, killing it at Panionios. Seals a move to Olympiakos and gets called up.

Imagine if he was pro-active rather than re-active........
Cant wait till Otto goes and more importantly we bring in a Greek to coach us. Watch tin omatha mas fly then. This outdated approach from Otto must be killing our national football team. Why do we put up with this rubbish?

Zagorakis, Basinas, Dellas, Tsiartas, Nikolaidis, Dabizas, Nikopolidis; All but 1 of those guys were part of our EURO 2004 winning team. But agreed all totally useless............
They all were
And if you dont believe me about them carrying the team, perhaps you should read Tsartas' biography and Dellas Euro journal.

where do i get these kop?

The Kop · Post by **The Kop** » Sun May 27, 2007 7:19 pm

Tsartas' bio my mate brought it back from Greece for me.
But he did do a tell all interview with NET around the time it was released, ive seen it. Will try and find the link.

Dellas' journals, i read selected excerts online, but i did see a printed version i Caras on Lonsdale. Ill try and dig up the online version.

Dabizas did his journals in conjunction with contra.gr i remember reading them during the tournament. It may be in their site archives.

The Kop · Post by **The Kop** » Sun May 27, 2007 7:34 pm

From Tsiartas' interview re Rehhagel. Translated in English.

The goal against the Czech Republic

I must say that with the Czech goal a myth has developed. Rehagel wanted the players to run from the back on set pieces to come and meet the ball. Myself however, knowing that we had players who are good at the air game, I would always say to Harry, Dellas, Vryzas, Katsourani, and Dabiza go to the near post and stay there.

In the semi final, before the goal, there was a foul, that dellas hit with his body and withouht much power. Thats when I told him, Go to the penalty spot and I'll find you. I spoke to him again afterwards when he scored and he knew on his own where to be at the near post. After he scored Dellas yelled at me 'Your a magician'. If you see the play, characteristically how he heads the ball, you will see that he simply puts his head forward and the ball goes in.

In that game, before the decision was made for me to be subbed in, Rehagel was arguing for 10 minutes with Topalidis. Rehagel wanted to sub in Nikoalidi but Topalidis insisted that i be subbed in instead. For ten minutes they argued over this and for another ten they werent speaking to each other afterwards, until he subbed me in.

Still looking for the vid.

PS He really hates Nikolaidi.

More from Tsiartas about Rehhagel

Για Ρεχάγκελ:

"Είναι τεράστια αποτυχία που δεν περάσαμε στο Μουντιάλ. Ο κόσμος πρέπει να ξέρει πως υπήρχε ένας Ρεχάγκελ πριν από το Ευρωπαϊκό και ένας Ρεχάγκελ μετά, ο οποίος συμβιβάστηκε με πολλά πράγματα και αυτό είχε συνέπεια ο αντίκτυπος να είναι αρνητικός για την ομάδα. Είχαμε τη δυνατότητα να προκριθούμε αλλά ήμαστε προβλέψιμοι. Ο Ρεχάγκελ θέλει το μηδέν πίσω και ό,τι γίνει μπροστά. Έγιναν τραγικά λάθη στο εντός έδρας ματς με την Ουκρανία. Δεν είναι δυνατόν να παίζεις με τον Μπασινά λίμπερο και τον Γκούμα στα χαφ, ενώ όλοι ξέρουν πως πρέπει να γίνει το αντίθετο.

Κάποια πράγματα σε βγάζουν από τα ρούχα σου. Έχει δημιουργηθεί τεράστιος μύθος γύρω από τον Ρεχάγκελ. Δεν τον κατηγορώ πως είναι κακός προπονητής αλλά δεν πρέπει να τα ισοπεδώνουμε όλα".

Edit, ive given up for today. Will look another time.

olympiakos · Post by **olympiakos** » Mon May 28, 2007 12:00 am

thanks kop

i read dellas journal during the tournament, that was on contra.gr as well