AMATUER LEAGUE ?????????

[crusader]

Amatuer - a person who engages in any activity for enjoyment and not for making money.Makes a mockerey of the name when you have so many teams that pay their players dont you think?

[Loretta Jones]

Good luck with your crusade.

[Jack Mehorf]

In most cases the income just covers their expenses, so there's no real money to be made, but i'm sure there are some exceptions.

If the clubs are generating good cash flow from sponsors and supporters who love and live for their club and environment then who really cares amatuer or not!!!! The only difference between amateur and federation is the 20-40k annual fee being coffed up by the federation clubs (generally paid for by the junior parents up to 700-800 per season), which the amateur clubs can save on.

[swannsong]

It's Amateur !

[crusader]

yes i suppose $600 per game is ok if you are getting a taxi from brisbane to play

[swannsong]

Where did you find tat definition?
I can't find amatuer in the dictionary :?

[swannsong]

Amatuer - a person who engages in any activity for enjoyment and not for making money.Makes a mockerey of the name when you have so many teams that pay their players dont you think?

Where did you find that definition?
I can't find amatuer in the dictionary :?

[Retief]

Swannsong
Why are you so against debates on the status of amateur (spelt correctly) clubs and the payments made to players. Do you have a hidden agenda; (semi-colon used correctly) or are you just a piss-take artist. (used correctly as a colloquilism - spelt correctly ).

Also, on your propensity (spelt correctly) for puns - 2 quotes for your delectation (spelt and used correctly)

"Hanging is too good for a man who makes puns; he should be drawn and quoted"
Fred Allen

and possibly more appropriately, given the majority of your puns:

"A man who could make so vile a pun would not scruple to pick a pocket"
John Dennis

[sweaty bollocks]

this swansong guy is just a serial forum pest..... expert on anything and everything.

I agree no players should be paid its amatuer league. The league should change its name if players are being paid.

plus fact its called a soccer league!

[Loretta Jones]

this swansong guy is just a serial forum pest..... expert on anything and everything.

I'd rather read his posts than any of yours.

[Bomber]

this swansong guy is just a serial forum pest..... expert on anything and everything.

I agree no players should be paid its amatuer league. The league should change its name if players are being paid.

plus fact its called a soccer league!

Count the errors on this post (sorry, am with swanny and the therapist on this one).

[swannsong]

Swannsong
Why are you so against debates on the status of amateur (spelt correctly) clubs and the payments made to players. Do you have a hidden agenda; (semi-colon used correctly) or are you just a piss-take artist. (used correctly as a colloquilism - spelt correctly ).

Also, on your propensity (spelt correctly) for puns - 2 quotes for your delectation (spelt and used correctly)

"Hanging is too good for a man who makes puns; he should be drawn and quoted"
Fred Allen

and possibly more appropriately, given the majority of your puns:

"A man who could make so vile a pun would not scruple to pick a pocket"
John Dennis

Where did I express that I was against debates on the status of amateur clubs and payments made to players.
As for puns, having been deaf in one ear for most of my life, I tend to listen carefully to words in case I have misheard them, hence I look for other words that may sound the same.
As a consequence I became interested in paronomasia and the use of homographic, homophonic and double-sound puns.
My apologies if it offends you but the Bible and Shakespeare made use of puns throughout.
The Olympic Games used to be an amateur competition...times change !

[Loretta Jones]

The Olympic Games used to be an amateur competition...times change !

You mean they no longer are. How will I sleep at night?

[Cobweb Rides Again]

Col's Therapist

Come to any Amateur league club's Sunday session and I'm sure you will be sleeping like a baby, totally refreshed and ready for work on Monday morning like the rest of us!!!!!!

[DOC]

I like his photography skills

[The General]

this swansong guy is just a serial forum pest..... expert on anything and everything.

I agree no players should be paid its amatuer league. The league should change its name if players are being paid.

plus fact its called a soccer league!

He never claimed to be an expert,he is just expressing his opinion,just like everyone else, just sometimes he does it in a more subtle funny way, not everybody gets the humour...chill out man.

[legga]

Keep up the good work swanny, you might have to dumb it down a bit...

[Dickie Knee]

this has been done to death on here (do a search).

it's quite simple:

- the SAASL (as does the FFA) uses the rules from the ATO about player payments not having to be declared as the threshold for amateurism.

-the ATO says that sportspeople are 'amateur' if they receive as payment (for 'expenses') of $99 or less per game. anything else on top of that is deemed taxable income (therefore the player is 'professional').

- the SAASL rules reflect this by saying that: (i) any player that receives more than $99 per game is a 'professional'; (ii) 'professional' players are not allowed to play in the SAASL.

- any team that pays any player more than $99 per game is cheating. simple. black and white.

impossible to police, though.

[Stitch This]

this swansong guy is just a serial forum pest..... expert on anything and everything.

I agree no players should be paid its amatuer league. The league should change its name if players are being paid.

plus fact its called a soccer league!

Haven't you got something to scratch?

There again maybe you haven't.

[Stitch This]

......
- any team that pays any player more than $99 per game is cheating. simple. black and white.

........

If in doubt consult a lawyer.

[Wraith]

- any team that pays any player more than $99 per game is cheating. simple. black and white.

impossible to police, though.

Majority of people know about the $99 cap, but openly flout it - as you said it's impossible to police so therefore hardly anyone takes any notice of it.

[BlackBrian_7]

It's pretty sad that clubs openly cheat (even boast about it) and the league turns at best a blind eye to it.

If this cheating is seen to be acceptable, where do we stop? Can clubs start bribing refs because they can afford it and they are well supported?

[Vale_boy05]

It's pretty sad that clubs openly cheat (even boast about it) and the league turns at best a blind eye to it.

If this cheating is seen to be acceptable, where do we stop? Can clubs start bribing refs because they can afford it and they are well supported?

If "cheating" is helping you win thus getting the crowds down thus making it profitable and helping make a high standard with in league then im in for cheating

I cant see why anybody cares to be honest..........

[BlackBrian_7]

It's pretty sad that clubs openly cheat (even boast about it) and the league turns at best a blind eye to it.

If this cheating is seen to be acceptable, where do we stop? Can clubs start bribing refs because they can afford it and they are well supported?

If "cheating" is helping you win thus getting the crowds down thus making it profitable and helping make a high standard with in league then im in for cheating

I cant see why anybody cares to be honest..........

I was probably a bit dramatic with my argument however it is still valid.

[Wraith]

I cant see why anybody cares to be honest..........

Most likely because it's against the rules.

Not to say I agree with it - should be scrapped because no one follows it anyway.

If the club has cash to spend then they don't refer to the '$99 rule' - they pay whatever is necessary to attain thier services.

[BlackBrian_7]

I cant see why anybody cares to be honest..........

Most likely because it's against the rules.

Not to say I agree with it - should be scrapped because no one follows it anyway.
If the club has cash to spend then they don't refer to the '$99 rule' - they pay whatever is necessary to attain thier services.

I think that is the key point.

Though to be honest I don't think it would be many of the amateur league clubs that would pay players, let alone pay them more than a $100 a week.

[Wraith]

Though to be honest I don't think it would be many of the amateur league clubs that would pay players, let alone pay them more than a $100 a week.

You'd actually be pleasantly surprised....

[BlackBrian_7]

Though to be honest I don't think it would be many of the amateur league clubs that would pay players, let alone pay them more than a $100 a week.

You'd actually be pleasantly surprised....

Out of the 100 or so clubs in the league I would be surprised if it was more than 10-12.

[Wraith]

Though to be honest I don't think it would be many of the amateur league clubs that would pay players, let alone pay them more than a $100 a week.

You'd actually be pleasantly surprised....

Out of the 100 or so clubs in the league I would be surprised if it was more than 10-12.

I could name about 10 off the top of my head

[robinfriday10]

naming 10 off the top of your head?? is anyone in div 2 paying $100 per week and everyone in div 1 paying it?? i doubt it...