Juventus Transfer Campaign

[Eduardo Caroccio]

Estigarribia is having a medical in the morning and will be signed, but apparently these two signings wont stop marotta looking to sign a big name left midfielder. Im hoping we can jag Malouda for the 5.7 Mill thats being rumoured. With the Bruno Alves deal from what ive read Juve want to straight swap him for Bonucci, but they want to swap plus 4 Mill. Be very interesting, his age doesnt help but we do need a solid centre back badly. I'd be content if we sign Alves and Malouda, got rid of Amauri, Almiron, Iaquinta, Grosso, Grygera, Martinez is all but gone and id like to get rid of manninger as well. Interesting week ahead...

[Milos#27]

Totally unconvinced by these two left wing signings, Giaccherini for me is decent but is a little unproven still, although his performances against the big teams last season were encouraging i'm interested in how he would play week in week out. It seems also a waste of money when we had giovinco, of whom Giaccherini is very similar to. As for Estigarribia he struggled for Le Mans and had to be loaned back to South America, just because he had a good Copa America, doesn't mean that it will translate into good form in a league which historically has been one of the hardest leagues to adapt to. Hoping that I'm incorrect and he proves me wrong but the only difference between him and Martinez is that he has cost us nothing at this stage.

As for the defence I think Alex and Lugano present the best options, I don't think we should be so hasty as to get rid of Bonucci, although he has been inconsistent with his form, as I have stated before the centre backs were often left high and dry last year by our lack of competent full backs. I feel I must also draw attention to the fact that Bonucci's partner at Bari, Ranocchia, has also been inconsistent with his form since joining Inter and has been culpable of some school boy errors that have cost goals, however Inter aren't in a rush to offload him for someone more experienced. Inter have a similar centre back pairing to Juventus with Ranocchia's partner Lucio similar to Chiellini, so what was the telling difference as to why Inter's defence was better than Juve's....the fullbacks.

[BAGGIO 15]

Totally unconvinced by these two left wing signings, Giaccherini for me is decent but is a little unproven still, although his performances against the big teams last season were encouraging i'm interested in how he would play week in week out. It seems also a waste of money when we had giovinco, of whom Giaccherini is very similar to. As for Estigarribia he struggled for Le Mans and had to be loaned back to South America, just because he had a good Copa America, doesn't mean that it will translate into good form in a league which historically has been one of the hardest leagues to adapt to. Hoping that I'm incorrect and he proves me wrong but the only difference between him and Martinez is that he has cost us nothing at this stage.

As for the defence I think Alex and Lugano present the best options, I don't think we should be so hasty as to get rid of Bonucci, although he has been inconsistent with his form, as I have stated before the centre backs were often left high and dry last year by our lack of competent full backs. I feel I must also draw attention to the fact that Bonucci's partner at Bari, Ranocchia, has also been inconsistent with his form since joining Inter and has been culpable of some school boy errors that have cost goals, however Inter aren't in a rush to offload him for someone more experienced. Inter have a similar centre back pairing to Juventus with Ranocchia's partner Lucio similar to Chiellini, so what was the telling difference as to why Inter's defence was better than Juve's....the fullbacks.

The difference is Martinez can't play 2 games in a row.

I'd rather Giovinco, he's a Juventino.
Molouda is to old to pay those dollars for. Waste!

[BAGGIO 15]

Totally unconvinced by these two left wing signings, Giaccherini for me is decent but is a little unproven still, although his performances against the big teams last season were encouraging i'm interested in how he would play week in week out. It seems also a waste of money when we had giovinco, of whom Giaccherini is very similar to. As for Estigarribia he struggled for Le Mans and had to be loaned back to South America, just because he had a good Copa America, doesn't mean that it will translate into good form in a league which historically has been one of the hardest leagues to adapt to. Hoping that I'm incorrect and he proves me wrong but the only difference between him and Martinez is that he has cost us nothing at this stage.

As for the defence I think Alex and Lugano present the best options, I don't think we should be so hasty as to get rid of Bonucci, although he has been inconsistent with his form, as I have stated before the centre backs were often left high and dry last year by our lack of competent full backs. I feel I must also draw attention to the fact that Bonucci's partner at Bari, Ranocchia, has also been inconsistent with his form since joining Inter and has been culpable of some school boy errors that have cost goals, however Inter aren't in a rush to offload him for someone more experienced. Inter have a similar centre back pairing to Juventus with Ranocchia's partner Lucio similar to Chiellini, so what was the telling difference as to why Inter's defence was better than Juve's....the fullbacks.

The difference is Martinez can't play 2 games in a row.

I'd rather Giovinco, he's a Juventino.
Molouda is to old to pay those dollars for. Waste!

I do agree with your comments re Bonucci.

[Juventino]

Problem with Giovinco is that while he is Turin born and from the system, the bastard admitted to being a Milan fan!

[scipio africanus]

Totally unconvinced by these two left wing signings, Giaccherini for me is decent but is a little unproven still, although his performances against the big teams last season were encouraging i'm interested in how he would play week in week out. It seems also a waste of money when we had giovinco, of whom Giaccherini is very similar to. As for Estigarribia he struggled for Le Mans and had to be loaned back to South America, just because he had a good Copa America, doesn't mean that it will translate into good form in a league which historically has been one of the hardest leagues to adapt to. Hoping that I'm incorrect and he proves me wrong but the only difference between him and Martinez is that he has cost us nothing at this stage.

As for the defence I think Alex and Lugano present the best options, I don't think we should be so hasty as to get rid of Bonucci, although he has been inconsistent with his form, as I have stated before the centre backs were often left high and dry last year by our lack of competent full backs. I feel I must also draw attention to the fact that Bonucci's partner at Bari, Ranocchia, has also been inconsistent with his form since joining Inter and has been culpable of some school boy errors that have cost goals, however Inter aren't in a rush to offload him for someone more experienced. Inter have a similar centre back pairing to Juventus with Ranocchia's partner Lucio similar to Chiellini, so what was the telling difference as to why Inter's defence was better than Juve's....the fullbacks.

You have a strong understanding of Juve Milos!

Share your concerns re the two left wing signings .... only good thing is that we didn't outlay 12m euro like we did for that bidone Martinez.

Both Bonucci and Ranocchia under Conte at Bari were outstanding and I agree Bonucci was left exposed last seaosn by our shocking full backs, but of concern, in pre-season, Bonucci has been leaking goals i.e. the perdenti goal at the TIM trophy was his fault.

I'm torn at keeping him or cashing in, as Spalleti is very keen.

Either one of Bruno Alves, Lugano and Alex would be a great partner for Chiellini.

If we sell Bonucci, we might even pick up two of these guys.

Surely Marotta has one surprise for us before the transfer season closes!

[scipio africanus]

Totally unconvinced by these two left wing signings, Giaccherini for me is decent but is a little unproven still, although his performances against the big teams last season were encouraging i'm interested in how he would play week in week out. It seems also a waste of money when we had giovinco, of whom Giaccherini is very similar to. As for Estigarribia he struggled for Le Mans and had to be loaned back to South America, just because he had a good Copa America, doesn't mean that it will translate into good form in a league which historically has been one of the hardest leagues to adapt to. Hoping that I'm incorrect and he proves me wrong but the only difference between him and Martinez is that he has cost us nothing at this stage.

As for the defence I think Alex and Lugano present the best options, I don't think we should be so hasty as to get rid of Bonucci, although he has been inconsistent with his form, as I have stated before the centre backs were often left high and dry last year by our lack of competent full backs. I feel I must also draw attention to the fact that Bonucci's partner at Bari, Ranocchia, has also been inconsistent with his form since joining Inter and has been culpable of some school boy errors that have cost goals, however Inter aren't in a rush to offload him for someone more experienced. Inter have a similar centre back pairing to Juventus with Ranocchia's partner Lucio similar to Chiellini, so what was the telling difference as to why Inter's defence was better than Juve's....the fullbacks.

The difference is Martinez can't play 2 games in a row.

I'd rather Giovinco, he's a Juventino.
Molouda is to old to pay those dollars for. Waste!

I watched Bastos kill it for Lyon in the CL last week ... he would have been dynamic down the left.

What happened to the euro's we were prepared to spend on Aguero and Rossi??

[Milos#27]

Totally unconvinced by these two left wing signings, Giaccherini for me is decent but is a little unproven still, although his performances against the big teams last season were encouraging i'm interested in how he would play week in week out. It seems also a waste of money when we had giovinco, of whom Giaccherini is very similar to. As for Estigarribia he struggled for Le Mans and had to be loaned back to South America, just because he had a good Copa America, doesn't mean that it will translate into good form in a league which historically has been one of the hardest leagues to adapt to. Hoping that I'm incorrect and he proves me wrong but the only difference between him and Martinez is that he has cost us nothing at this stage.

As for the defence I think Alex and Lugano present the best options, I don't think we should be so hasty as to get rid of Bonucci, although he has been inconsistent with his form, as I have stated before the centre backs were often left high and dry last year by our lack of competent full backs. I feel I must also draw attention to the fact that Bonucci's partner at Bari, Ranocchia, has also been inconsistent with his form since joining Inter and has been culpable of some school boy errors that have cost goals, however Inter aren't in a rush to offload him for someone more experienced. Inter have a similar centre back pairing to Juventus with Ranocchia's partner Lucio similar to Chiellini, so what was the telling difference as to why Inter's defence was better than Juve's....the fullbacks.

The difference is Martinez can't play 2 games in a row.

I'd rather Giovinco, he's a Juventino.
Molouda is to old to pay those dollars for. Waste!

I watched Bastos kill it for Lyon in the CL last week ... he would have been dynamic down the left.

What happened to the euro's we were prepared to spend on Aguero and Rossi??

I was also keen to see Bastos in a Juve shirt this year, my understanding is that a 15m deal and personal terms had pretty much been agreed, but Marotta stalled as Conte expressed his concerns with regards to Bastos being the right fit for the left hand side...tired of the delay he signed a new deal and then ripped for Lyon in the CL qualifiers. For me the solution for the left has been either Bastos or Vargas and I'm hoping that Marotta still has a surprise for us.

I also have to agree that Bonucci's form this pre-season has been a little worrying, but having said that, it is just pre-season. As I said before the addition of Alex or Lugano would be best, I rate Alves but the only way I see us getting him is to sacrifice either Bonucci or Pepe, which I dont think we should do. Im not saying Bonucci should start, should either of the former arrive, it will allow Bonucci to learn from a clearly more experienced centre back and also it will create more competiveness in the backline, he will have to work hard to lift his game. We have to start giving players more than one year to find their feet and show their true potential, there are plenty of examples out there of players who have done wonders after a few inconsistent seasons....remember a few years back around when Juve came up from Serie B, they even contemplated selling Chiellini, who at that time was playing at left back, what a huge mistake that would have been.

[scipio africanus]

Just read Tuttosport as Italy begins their Friday ...

Juve are zeroing in on Bruno Alves and Malouda ...... with Giacherrini and Estagarribia, that would spell the end of Pepe who we paid 6m euro for, and would like to make a tidy profit.

those imbeciles of the previous juve regime did their best to sell Chiellini!

P.S - Serie A strike looks to go ahead

[Juventino]

I also have to agree that Bonucci's form this pre-season has been a little worrying, but having said that, it is just pre-season. As I said before the addition of Alex or Lugano would be best, I rate Alves but the only way I see us getting him is to sacrifice either Bonucci or Pepe, which I dont think we should do. Im not saying Bonucci should start, should either of the former arrive, it will allow Bonucci to learn from a clearly more experienced centre back and also it will create more competiveness in the backline, he will have to work hard to lift his game. We have to start giving players more than one year to find their feet and show their true potential, there are plenty of examples out there of players who have done wonders after a few inconsistent seasons....remember a few years back around when Juve came up from Serie B, they even contemplated selling Chiellini, who at that time was playing at left back, what a huge mistake that would have been.

This exactly. I just cannot see the value in getting rid of Bonucci. The fact it has been contemplated, or even spoken about in the media, shows the problem with the current Juve. If we don't win instantly then the whole world is collapsing. Nobody gets a chance to find their feet. I wonder if this will happen to Conte if the results aren't perfect to begin with?

[Juventino]

Almiron sold to Catania

But, Bonucci to Zenit could well happen. Stupid if true.

[David Puddy]

Good that we got some money for Almiron and got him off the wage books.
Iago joined Tottenham on loan after signing a new contract with Juve until 2014 (At least that's what I've heard anyway).
I still think Vargas is the best option for the left, Bastos is good but we haven't had much luck with Brazilians in recent years.
Lugano is the best CB option for me while there isn't much difference between Alves and Alex.

[David Puddy]

Estigarribia official.
Looks like Amauri, Iaquinta, and Grygera will be the next to be shipped out.
Lugano officially to PSG, a real opportunity missed be Juve for a player i rate highly.

[Eduardo Caroccio]

3 days to go in the transfer window and some how we still have not signed a proven left winger and a solid centre back! Marotta and Paratici better know what theyre doing, if we go into the season as is i will be very dissapointed...i cant see it being too different from last season. Ideally Afellay and Bruno Alves would be nice, but i can see it being Elia on the Left and who knows in CB.

[Juventino]

Grygera released on a free. He is expected to join Fulham.

Elia has had his medical, so he should join shortly, reportedly for 10mil Euros. A few weeks ago Juve wasn't a big enough club for him, the fucking wanker.

[getborn]

Bocchetti could arrive.

[Milos#27]

Bocchetti could arrive.

I thought that Napoli were close to signing him to cover the loss of Britos?

Anyway if there is truth to this rumour I can see Marotta doing something along the lines of a Pepe & Bonucci swap for Bocchetti & Alves. I don't know how Marotta and Co. could consider Bocchetti a better player than Bonucci...at least Alves has more experience.

Once again I have been left puzzled by some of the transfers this year, and it is a little disturbing that Conte concludes a week out from the close of the window that Ziegler does not impress him and is surplus to requirements, leaving us with a injury prone De Ceglie and a over the hill Grosso for the left fullback position....Ferrara take two.

[Milos#27]

Grygera released on a free. He is expected to join Fulham.

Elia has had his medical, so he should join shortly, reportedly for 10mil Euros. A few weeks ago Juve wasn't a big enough club for him, the bottle of shiraz wanker.

I agree it is a little unnerving having someone sign for your club that declared only a few weeks that it was not good enough for him. Another sticking point is I'm pretty sure he is a natural right footer, correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't the issue we had last year was that we didn't have a top quality left footed winger that could take some of the attacking focus off of Krasic?

The only positive is that we didn't break the bank for him.

Very underwhelming end to transfer season for Marotta.

[David Puddy]

Grygera released on a free. He is expected to join Fulham.

Elia has had his medical, so he should join shortly, reportedly for 10mil Euros. A few weeks ago Juve wasn't a big enough club for him, the bottle of shiraz wanker.

From all reports what Elia is quoted as saying was made up by the German media in order to try and keep another one of their Bundesliga players from moving to Serie A, or some shit like that. If he did say it and he ends up struggling at Juve, I'm sure he's gonna regret it.

I'm still hoping that Bonucci will stay, and that the Zenit swap will be with Pepe and Alves, but you never know. I'm sure were in for a few surprises over the next day or so.

[Juventino]

Bocchetti could arrive.

I thought that Napoli were close to signing him to cover the loss of Britos?

Anyway if there is truth to this rumour I can see Marotta doing something along the lines of a Pepe & Bonucci swap for Bocchetti & Alves. I don't know how Marotta and Co. could consider Bocchetti a better player than Bonucci...at least Alves has more experience.

Once again I have been left puzzled by some of the transfers this year, and it is a little disturbing that Conte concludes a week out from the close of the window that Ziegler does not impress him and is surplus to requirements, leaving us with a injury prone De Ceglie and a over the hill Grosso for the left fullback position....Ferrara take two.

Did Conte actually say anything about Ziegler? All I saw were unconfirmed media reports, stirring the pot.

[David Puddy]

Bocchetti could arrive.

I thought that Napoli were close to signing him to cover the loss of Britos?

Anyway if there is truth to this rumour I can see Marotta doing something along the lines of a Pepe & Bonucci swap for Bocchetti & Alves. I don't know how Marotta and Co. could consider Bocchetti a better player than Bonucci...at least Alves has more experience.

Once again I have been left puzzled by some of the transfers this year, and it is a little disturbing that Conte concludes a week out from the close of the window that Ziegler does not impress him and is surplus to requirements, leaving us with a injury prone De Ceglie and a over the hill Grosso for the left fullback position....Ferrara take two.

Did Conte actually say anything about Ziegler? All I saw were unconfirmed media reports, stirring the pot.

I think the Ziegler thing is just bullshit as well.

Apparantly Marotta is going after Bochetti as well as Alves. The Alves deal is all but done with Bonucci having to agree to go in the other direction :?

[Juventino]

Elia to Juventus is official, 4 year deal. €9 million but it can rise a further million.

From what I've read, Elia is right footed but rarely plays on the right and is more comfortable on the left-hand side.

[ruud]

Elia to Juventus is official, 4 year deal. €9 million but it can rise a further million.

From what I've read, Elia is right footed but rarely plays on the right and is more comfortable on the left-hand side.

correct

if he plays a lot of games he can grow to be a great player

[Juventino]

Regarding the Ziegler situation, at least we know it is more than pure speculation. The player has said Conte does not feel he will be part of the plans. But surely still a better backup than Grosso, and he wants to push for a spot. Probably too late for him to leave.

[David Puddy]

Well there you go. After all that no new CB. So were left with Chiellini, Bonucci, Barzagli and Sorensen.

[Juventino]

Just a shame we didn't get rid of some of the deadwood.

[Eduardo Caroccio]

massive shame! Amauri is an absolute c*&k!! If he doesnt perform in the chances he gets this season i hope the fans make him feel like a money hungry pig that he is, so many offers and h keeps rejected them all...very obvious that this was going to happen. He along with another 3-4 will sit in the beautiful new stadium watching the games making more than the guys on the pitch!! Ridiculous!! And the fact we leave it to the last night to get a defender was always going to bring trouble, and again were let down with no signing in the position which we clearly needed the most!! Im very dissapointed, i just hope galatasaray snap up amauri over the next 5 days...one can only hope

[David Puddy]

I think it might be a blessing in disguise that we weren't able to get rid of Bonucci.
The kid has talent and if he can put together a solid few months then the thought of getting rid of him will be long gone by the January window.

Buffon
Lichtsteiner-Bonucci-Chiellini-De Ceglie
Krasic-Vidal-Pirlo-Elia
Vucinic-Matri

Bench:
Storari
Ziegler
Barzagli
Marchisio
Giaccherini
Del Piero
Quags

And we've still got handy players like Pepe, Toni, and the unproven Estigarribia who can hopefully give something when called upon. Definitely a better squad than last season but defence will still need to be improved in Jan, with Ziegler likely to leave we'll need another LB and still that new CB.

January sales should include Iaquinta, Amauri, Grosso and even Motta if we can find a good back up RB.

[Fenerbahçe]

Ziegler to Fener on loan, should be official within hours.

[Juventino]

Yeah I saw that earlier. It's a shame, because it means if De Ceglie goes down we need to rely on Grosso.