Ref cancels match after bash threats

[PONTIAN]

It's confirmed..... You have no idea!
You're a tool, end of!

what club you follow? I know you dont play. too quick on the keyboard, come watch us at HINDMARSH

vista reserves

enough said. I want all you NUETRALS to come out to Hindmarsh and make sure there are no Threats made. ok

[BestOfWhatsLeft]

It's confirmed..... You have no idea!
You're a tool, end of!

what club you follow? I know you dont play. too quick on the keyboard, come watch us at HINDMARSH

I follow pontians!

[DOC]

i'm going on first hand reports of players in the game mate, now that the media have gotten hold of it, i think pontians are in some hot water, i was going to be at cup semi final day anyway, its usually a good day of football, which i hope is all we see on the day

[PONTIAN]

I follow pontians![/quote]

well i must be your favourite player

[PONTIAN]

i'm going on first hand reports of players in the game mate, now that the media have gotten hold of it, i think pontians are in some hot water, i was going to be at cup semi final day anyway, its usually a good day of football, which i hope is all we see on the day

will be interesting then. Anyways I hope I try and play some good good football for ya mate

[DOC]

i'm going on first hand reports of players in the game mate, now that the media have gotten hold of it, i think pontians are in some hot water, i was going to be at cup semi final day anyway, its usually a good day of football, which i hope is all we see on the day

will be interesting then. Anyways I hope I try and play some good good football for ya mate

pontian have played some real good football by all accounts, to bad some people on the sidelines ruined a very good year for the club

[gee_kay]

I follow pontians!

well i must be your favourite player [/quote]
Probably not but you might be his money man

[some bloke]

Now im not trying to stir up the sat vs sunday debate, but when was the last time a premier, or div 2 sat game called off due to violence or threats to the ref. Just seems the besa thing, maiwand thing, and now pontian(whether it was a threat or just abuse) is all involving sunday teams. I actually dont know thus why im asking, is this happening just on sundays or what? Apart from playing against modbury jets, ive felt its a much different atmosphere in the crowd on a sat compared to sundays. But thats just my opinion.

[swannsong]

Now im not trying to stir up the sat vs sunday debate, but when was the last time a premier, or div 2 sat game called off due to violence or threats to the ref. Just seems the besa thing, maiwand thing, and now pontian(whether it was a threat or just abuse) is all involving sunday teams. I actually dont know thus why im asking, is this happening just on sundays or what? Apart from playing against modbury jets, ive felt its a much different atmosphere in the crowd on a sat compared to sundays. But thats just my opinion.

Let's just all play Saturdays and it will solve everything
I think if you look back there have been some issues on Saturdays too.

[Mr X]

Blaming the ref for all this for making a decision which I thought was the correct one is ridiculous, he made an error earlier in the game but a goal was scored and the pontain side of the pitch was happy.

The alledged "neutral" was standing near the half way line in the middle of the Pontian supporters, very odd place to stand for neutral with no affiliation to Pontian ???

Steve said to me personally he called it off because he received a threat of being bashed.

The already stated yellow coat / president inflamed the situation and was the bloke going off the most and swearing at the the ref, as Nuggett said any other president would have tried to calm the situation and at least go an speak to "alledged neutral" but this guy was in my opinion the one who caused this most was the president. Had the Pontian president assured Steve it was being clamed down and the "alledged neutral" was being asked to move on or kept under control Steve probably would have allowed the game to continue.

I feel sorrry for the Pontian players and supporters, but the president must be made accountable for what is now in the media for the whole of Australia to see, only a week after the Maiwand situation,

No refs = No game = No league !!!!

Farm should be awarded the points, and maybe even financially compensated for lost BBQ and Bar Sales it surely would have made over the remianing 70 minutes, plus half time and post game.

[lisbon lion]

you cant award the points to farm that amounts to a contrived result.....the game had commenced

[Wraith]

Now im not trying to stir up the sat vs sunday debate, but when was the last time a premier, or div 2 sat game called off due to violence or threats to the ref. Just seems the besa thing, maiwand thing, and now pontian(whether it was a threat or just abuse) is all involving sunday teams. I actually dont know thus why im asking, is this happening just on sundays or what? Apart from playing against modbury jets, ive felt its a much different atmosphere in the crowd on a sat compared to sundays. But thats just my opinion.

Happens both days, it's not just exclusive to Sunday football.

[robinfriday10]

[quote="some bloke"]Now im not trying to stir up the sat vs sunday debate, but when was the last time a premier, or div 2 sat game called off due to violence or threats to the ref. Just seems the besa thing, maiwand thing, and now pontian(whether it was a threat or just abuse) is all involving sunday teams. I actually dont know thus why im asking, is this happening just on sundays or what? Apart from playing against modbury jets, ive felt its a much different atmosphere in the crowd on a sat compared to sundays. But thats just my opinion.

last year Hazara vs Old Iggies C's i think, game called off due to ref having to get in his car and getting the F outta there....

[BPBC]

Fuck me dead. So the ref asked a Pontion official to calm the spectator down, the Pontion official instead abused the ref

"• Wear the Identifying Vest and officials ID as provided by the SAASL
• Respect the decisions of the match official and encourage others to do the same"

He didnt, ref made the call to stop game. End of story. 25 fucking pages of excuses later the fact remains the official didnt do his job. Bad ref or not, its a breach of rules. We all make mistakes, man up and take responsibility for them, dont try and shift the blame

[haywood djablowme]

Now im not trying to stir up the sat vs sunday debate, but when was the last time a premier, or div 2 sat game called off due to violence or threats to the ref. Just seems the besa thing, maiwand thing, and now pontian(whether it was a threat or just abuse) is all involving sunday teams. I actually dont know thus why im asking, is this happening just on sundays or what? Apart from playing against modbury jets, ive felt its a much different atmosphere in the crowd on a sat compared to sundays. But thats just my opinion.

No support/crowds on Saturday = easy to control
Large followings, huge supporter base (especially big Northern Derbys) = hard to control everybody, even Pontian Neatural supporters

[predator]

Pontians give there support for the kick violence out of football campaign on the 26th and get a game abandoned on the 28th. Now that's embarrassing

[The World Game]

http://weekly-times-messenger.whereiliv ... h-threats/

AN INVESTIGATION has been launched into crowd behaviour at a soccer match involving Ferryden Park club Pontian, following allegations a spectator threatened to “bash” the referee.

The referee called off the away game at Ingle Farm midway through the second half on Sunday, August 28, after allegedly receiving abuse from sections of Pontian supporters.

The incident followed the referee’s decision to send off Pontian’s goalkeeper for handling the ball outside the box.

One eyewitness told the Weekly Times Messenger a Pontian fan shouted to the referee: “Decisions like that get refs bashed and you’ll get yours at the end of the game.”

The incident - the second involving threats or violence towards referees at SA Amateur Soccer League matches this season - is being investigated by the league.

SA Amateur Soccer Referee Association president Andrew Leetham declined to comment on the specifics of the latest incident.

However, he was concerned by the risks to referees and called on the league to review umpire safety.

“It’s a concern that there have been more of these incidents happening than there have been in recent years, and I think we need to sit down with the amateur league, and the clubs, and identify what we need to do to ensure umpire safety,” Mr Leetham said.

“The referee involved was an experienced referee and wouldn’t have taken the action he did if he didn’t feel it was warranted.

“As a general rule, none of our members are expected to be placed in a position where they feel at risk.”

Pontian coach George Kargiotis declined to comment.

Ingle Farm coach Paul Simpson said his club’s spectators were not involved in the incident and he supported the referee’s decision to abandon the match, with scores tied at 1-1.

[Big G]

not many at our club knows what is going on, 90% of them don't read the forums.

[bapa]

Now im not trying to stir up the sat vs sunday debate, but when was the last time a premier, or div 2 sat game called off due to violence or threats to the ref. Just seems the besa thing, maiwand thing, and now pontian(whether it was a threat or just abuse) is all involving sunday teams. I actually dont know thus why im asking, is this happening just on sundays or what? Apart from playing against modbury jets, ive felt its a much different atmosphere in the crowd on a sat compared to sundays. But thats just my opinion.

Happens both days, it's not just exclusive to Sunday football.

Adelaide Villa V Wanderers last year was called off, after a clearing of benches brawl!!!
BOTH teams didnt get any points though, didnt matter as AV won the league!

[Rodent]

I suspected it was all the referees fault.

not saying that mate just trying to get the point across that I feel the better refs tend to be more consistant with their decisions to both sides. This adds to a better game and all involved are lot happier. Steve is the only ref to come to the sidelines on three different occasions this year to talk to our supporters threatening to get people removed. He should just shut up and let the game play out. Some of the refs we have had this year have been great, they tend to concentrate on the game [/quote]

Pontian can you answer me these question..??
why have you had Steve 3 times this year (or is it more)..??
Why has he come to the sidelines on 3 occasions..??
Why did your official inflame the situation..?
And if you were on the pitch why didnt you tell the supporters to pull their heads in...??

[legga]

Didnt the pontian v downs game last year get called off after a pitch invasion..mmmmm

[KING NUGGETT]

I was Chairman of the Gardens for 6 year, most of the games in that time I was Ground Marshall.
I found the hardest part of being a Ground Marshall was having to tell good friends to calm down & pull there heads in.
In some instances when they went over the top & didn't listen to those instructions I was force to impose bans to them.
After every home game I made it a point to go to the Referee thank him & offer him a drink regardless whether we Won or the Job that he did,
something I am proud still continues at our Club today through lefty.

When I finished my role as Chairman, I went back to being a Passionate Vocal Gardens Supporter.
I am no angel & I have given Referee's plenty of curry before, like after last years Cup Final on this forum as you can see in handy_mans signature (knob).
I can honestly say this I have Never threatened a Referee or got is his Face, Never had a Referee Stop the game & tell the Ground Marshall to Shut me Up,
I have always know the line not to cross...

I know how important Referee's are to our game & RESPECT the Job that they do, even the poor ones.
I hate how people blame Referee's, bad tackles, oppersition players & supporters, for "there actions" trying to justify absolutley terrible behaviour that just can't be.


The Facts are this...

On Sunday at Ingle Farm the Referee sent the Pontian Keeper Off,
a Pontian Supporter started abusing the Referee to the point he Stop the Game to speak to the Pontian Ground Marshall,
the Pontian Ground Marshall then joined in the abuse of the Referee.
It is reported that One eyewitness told the Messenger a Pontian fan shouted to the referee:
“Decisions like that get refs bashed and you’ll get yours at the end of the game.”
The Referee obviously felt that he had no other alternative than to Abandoned the game & it is reported that he had the support of the oppersition coach.

A Farms Players take on it,

Was involved with the farm v pontian game. Fantastic start to the game played tough, fair and a great pace. Yes ingle farm player did bring the pontian player down and I have seen these given as a red card. Perhaps it should have been given but it wasn't. You win some, you loose some but over a season things generally even themselves out between the good and bad calls. Pontian keeper had a clear and deliberate handball outside the box and was duly given a red card. Once again seen them given plenty of times before but farm player would have had a bit of work left to finish off the goal, bad decision by the keeper. Was not privvy to the exact comments of the said supporter to the ref. Sick of hearing what if he was a neutral. He was not a neutral and clearly part of the pontian continget there on the day. The pontian marshal who is the club president did not handle the situation well. Instead he aggrovated the situation by dishing a tirade of abuse to the ref. Steve is genuinely a good guy but can be incosistent either way you have to respect the referees decision, harden up and get on with it. The young linesman on the pontian side was visibly shaken by the incident and given the incidents that have occurred this year the president/marshal should have taken a common sense approach and diffused the situation. League needs to set a precedent here and apparently pontians already on a good behaviour issue from the league due to previous incedents. The loosers out of the whole thing is players and spectators who gave up there time for what should have been a cracking game.

A Netrauls take on it,

No but threats of violence are. I was standing near you guys today and some of what was said was uncalled for. No wonder there is a struggle to find refs. Your players should have smacked you guys out as it will be the supporters fault that Farm will now finished second. The game is there for them not you. The yellow jacket official should hang his head in shame also.

A Farm Reserve Players take on it,

Pontain supporters abuse Ref, Ref asks the yellow coated official to move a abusive / aledgedly threatening supporter away, instead goes mental and abuses ref even more, ref cancels game, and states he doesnt need or have to put up with threat of being 'bashed', felt sorry for the players who were battling out a good close game for second spot and Farm who had absolutely no involvement in the situation.

Whole thing could have been diffused if the yellow coated official showed some respect and kept his mouth shut and asked the supporter to move away from the line instead of further provoking the siuation.

The biggest problem here is that many of the Pontian people & others,
still blame the Referee for his poor performance on the day & for the game being abandoned..
It makes me so angry that people just don't get the fact that our Association has rules that we need to abide by other wise we'll have more incidence like the
BESA & MAIWAND.
The SAASL needs to make a stand over this incident, the Club, Ground Marshall & Chairman need to be serverly disaplined over this.
Clubs, Officials, Player & Supporters need to know this will not be tolarated, not one bit & there are concequences to your actions.

[KING NUGGETT]

Can't believe Pontian and Handyman are still blaming the referee. It's this sort of attitude that perpetuates this rubbish. Cop it sweet, tell us you know who the culprit is and have banned him from this weeks game, & post an apology from your president. Do that and it all goes away. Control your spectators like you're supposed to when the ref asks & this would never have happened!

Mate were you their? you sound like you were the ref? are you Steve? you must believe all this threats of bashings are true

Steve said to me personally he called it off because he received a threat of being bashed.

http://weekly-times-messenger.whereiliv ... h-threats/
One eyewitness told the Weekly Times Messenger a Pontian fan shouted to the referee: “Decisions like that get refs bashed and you’ll get yours at the end of the game.”

It sounds to me the Referee Reported that he was physically threatened which is why he abandoned the Game & a eyewitness agreed...

[Nice One Cyril]

Well said Nuggett. Absolutely spot on. Even great mates can be knobs sometimes but they normally regret it later.

[Karmann Ghia]

Can't believe Pontian and Handyman are still blaming the referee. It's this sort of attitude that perpetuates this rubbish. Cop it sweet, tell us you know who the culprit is and have banned him from this weeks game, & post an apology from your president. Do that and it all goes away. Control your spectators like you're supposed to when the ref asks & this would never have happened!

Mate were you their? you sound like you were the ref? are you Steve? you must believe all this threats of bashings are true

Steve said to me personally he called it off because he received a threat of being bashed.

http://weekly-times-messenger.whereiliv ... h-threats/
One eyewitness told the Weekly Times Messenger a Pontian fan shouted to the referee: “Decisions like that get refs bashed and you’ll get yours at the end of the game.”

It sounds to me the Referee Reported that he was physically threatened which is why he abandoned the Game & a eyewitness agreed...

The eyewitness mmm gee wonder who that was??

Nugget you have used words like "sounds like" mate I asked you before do you believe everything a jouno writes in the papers?

[lisbon lion]

if this was really said to the ref its pretty obvious why he called the game off especially in this current climate....doesnt matter how good or bad a ref he is

[KING NUGGETT]

The eyewitness mmm gee wonder who that was??

Nugget you have used words like "sounds like" mate I asked you before do you believe everything a jouno writes in the papers?

What I know is absolutley true is that your Supporters & Club Marshall abused the Referee to the point that he abandoned the Game.
It is alledged by the Referee & another eyewiteness that he was physically threatened.
I know 99% of the Pontian formitees & other has tried to justify there behaviour because of the Referee's poor performance on the day.
That I find to be a absolute discrace especially from a Sunday Premier League Club....

And I hope that your Club is severely punished for that....

[lisbon lion]

hmmmm should be an interesting response from the powers that be

[Bomber]

Once again halos reign supreme at Parafield (who have nothing to do with the game in question and had no-one there). Let the Farmers, Pontians and SAASL sort it hey?

[ADEL.GOONERS]

i saw the pictures of the ref in the ambulance, maybe the ref was thinking about that when he called the game off