99.9%? In every 10 immigrants I see, 8-9 of them dont understand basic english or our lawsBCS88 wrote:You should blame yourself and your ignorance for the fighting.. 99.9% of immigrants come here for a better life to put the trouble behind them and then they have to endure further abuse.. I agree people need to respect this country and make an effort to learn the language but it makes it harder when they keep recieving racial taunts and dont feel accepted... I came from a war torn country where i lost alot of family etc came here for a better life, but why should i let some redneck put me down what makes him better then me.. I have seen stuff you only see in movies so why should i take your crap.. Respect me ill respect you simple.. Its not an ethnic thing its just how the world isEpic Fail Guy wrote:Immigration needs to be stricter, its as if no one has a back ground check on them, or testing if they understand english
one of the things that annoys me is when people move here and make no effort to speak english
Yea, I blame the immigrants for all the fighting
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Just a sad day for Football... This is the extent we have come to. To bash each other over a game we all grew up loving.
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Totally agree Knight25....it is a world game, people here forget that Football has brought love to many places where there is nothing to love or live for!!!
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What country are you from?BCS88 wrote:You should blame yourself and your ignorance for the fighting.. 99.9% of immigrants come here for a better life to put the trouble behind them and then they have to endure further abuse.. I agree people need to respect this country and make an effort to learn the language but it makes it harder when they keep recieving racial taunts and dont feel accepted... I came from a war torn country where i lost alot of family etc came here for a better life, but why should i let some redneck put me down what makes him better then me.. I have seen stuff you only see in movies so why should i take your crap.. Respect me ill respect you simple.. Its not an ethnic thing its just how the world isEpic Fail Guy wrote:Immigration needs to be stricter, its as if no one has a back ground check on them, or testing if they understand english
one of the things that annoys me is when people move here and make no effort to speak english
Yea, I blame the immigrants for all the fighting
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@ yids...the following need to be held to account
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wrong!!!!! australia is almost at full employment!!!Also, unemployment has immigration to thank, you can ask my mate Hawksey to back me on that
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if youre referring to the riots...wrong!!!!! as we now know, even young white rich girls were looting....But you only need to look to the East of London to see the problems immigration causes!
The unrest began with a protest on August 6 in London's low-income district of Tottenham against the fatal police shooting of a 29-year-old black man, Mark Duggan, in disputed circumstances.
Race Was Not The Driving Force
Rioting quickly spread to other sections of London, before spreading to the cities of Manchester and Birmingham.
Paul Bagguley, a sociologist at the University of Leeds, suggests that the diversity of rioters indicates that race is not the driving force behind the violence.
"The initial violence in Tottenham mostly involved the local black community, but subsequently it spread to other ethnic groups," Bagguley says. "In some parts of the country, mostly white people are involved in the looting. It started off as partly a race-related issue -- an issue between black people and the police in London -- [and became about] a more general set of economic questions."
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Mate you trully are an Epic Fail no need to argue with you because youll never get it.. My parents are immigrant but had the moral to teach me respect and right and wrong which you obviously never heard off all the best to u champ.. You have a big awakening coming when you realise the world is not black and white as you think.. I truly feel sorry for you.. Just on the comment on unemployment... Ever thought maybe immigrants are harder workers.. Lets hate them coz they work their ass off to make a better life for their family, nothing in life is free mate you have to work for it.. If the immigranylts werent here you would still find it hard to get a job with that attitudeEpic Fail Guy wrote:99.9%? In every 10 immigrants I see, 8-9 of them dont understand basic english or our lawsBCS88 wrote:You should blame yourself and your ignorance for the fighting.. 99.9% of immigrants come here for a better life to put the trouble behind them and then they have to endure further abuse.. I agree people need to respect this country and make an effort to learn the language but it makes it harder when they keep recieving racial taunts and dont feel accepted... I came from a war torn country where i lost alot of family etc came here for a better life, but why should i let some redneck put me down what makes him better then me.. I have seen stuff you only see in movies so why should i take your crap.. Respect me ill respect you simple.. Its not an ethnic thing its just how the world isEpic Fail Guy wrote:Immigration needs to be stricter, its as if no one has a back ground check on them, or testing if they understand english
one of the things that annoys me is when people move here and make no effort to speak english
Yea, I blame the immigrants for all the fighting
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WRONG! I'm talking about England in this case.MegaBonus wrote:@ yids...the following need to be held to account
wrong!!!!! australia is almost at full employment!!!Also, unemployment has immigration to thank, you can ask my mate Hawksey to back me on that
I am not. So WRONG! I am referring to the area in general!MegaBonus wrote: if youre referring to the riots...wrong!!!!! as we now know, even young white rich girls were looting....
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Serbian mate!Yids wrote:What country are you from?BCS88 wrote:You should blame yourself and your ignorance for the fighting.. 99.9% of immigrants come here for a better life to put the trouble behind them and then they have to endure further abuse.. I agree people need to respect this country and make an effort to learn the language but it makes it harder when they keep recieving racial taunts and dont feel accepted... I came from a war torn country where i lost alot of family etc came here for a better life, but why should i let some redneck put me down what makes him better then me.. I have seen stuff you only see in movies so why should i take your crap.. Respect me ill respect you simple.. Its not an ethnic thing its just how the world isEpic Fail Guy wrote:Immigration needs to be stricter, its as if no one has a back ground check on them, or testing if they understand english
one of the things that annoys me is when people move here and make no effort to speak english
Yea, I blame the immigrants for all the fighting
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Yea I have many Serb mates. I can understand life was not easy. My mother is Czech, and she was wrapped up with the Prague Spring, hence the move to England. Having said that, I respect those who come and try their arse off, but those who come and create trouble should be on a boat back. Hence why I think immigration should be stricter to not allow these sorts in.
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even if you are talking about england....youre still wrong...dont want to give an introduction to economics lesson but think of it this way.....all those immigrants who are now working are spending their money at local supermarkets, shopping centres and in other areas of the economy. this increase in demand will eventually lead to an increase in demand for resources including labour!!!!
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1. I'm rich, everything is relatively free for meBCS88 wrote: Mate you trully are an Epic Fail no need to argue with you because youll never get it.. My parents are immigrant but had the moral to teach me respect and right and wrong which you obviously never heard off all the best to u champ.. You have a big awakening coming when you realise the world is not black and white as you think.. I truly feel sorry for you.. Just on the comment on unemployment... Ever thought maybe immigrants are harder workers.. Lets hate them coz they work their ass off to make a better life for their family, nothing in life is free mate you have to work for it.. If the immigranylts werent here you would still find it hard to get a job with that attitude
2. Immigrants are cheaper to employ and have to pay more for education, who do you think the universities pick first? (hint: in some of my classes immigrants outnumber us by 2:1) who do you think the employers pick first?
3. You and your family could be the 1/10 that's different, I'm not accusing you (although your spelling/grammar on the internet suggests differently)
4. my world is black and white
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Yids, my mother is Czech also, she was in Prague in 1968 during the Russian Invasion of 1968.
We fled from Communism, to find a better life, eventually we came to Australia - this is my home!
Football should unite us, not didvide us!!!
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"And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country.
My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man" - JFK
We fled from Communism, to find a better life, eventually we came to Australia - this is my home!
Football should unite us, not didvide us!!!
One of my favourite phrases:
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My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man" - JFK
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Not exactly that simple. How could you guarantee any accepted migrant will not be involved in some sort of punch up at the football? Its hardly likely to be one of the questions on the questionnaire is it.Yids wrote:Yea I have many Serb mates. I can understand life was not easy. My mother is Czech, and she was wrapped up with the Prague Spring, hence the move to England. Having said that, I respect those who come and try their muscat off, but those who come and create trouble should be on a boat back. Hence why I think immigration should be stricter to not allow these sorts in.
In the 70's here whenever an English team visited on tour, guess who was creating all the trouble then? Fights, trashing the trains etc etc. I'll answer it for you - English immigrants! But we conveniently tend to forget those times hey.
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1. You are still in some sort of class, so your rich through your family not your own hard work.. My parents came here with nothing and created a good lifeEpic Fail Guy wrote:1. I'm rich, everything is relatively free for meBCS88 wrote: Mate you trully are an Epic Fail no need to argue with you because youll never get it.. My parents are immigrant but had the moral to teach me respect and right and wrong which you obviously never heard off all the best to u champ.. You have a big awakening coming when you realise the world is not black and white as you think.. I truly feel sorry for you.. Just on the comment on unemployment... Ever thought maybe immigrants are harder workers.. Lets hate them coz they work their ass off to make a better life for their family, nothing in life is free mate you have to work for it.. If the immigranylts werent here you would still find it hard to get a job with that attitude
2. Immigrants are cheaper to employ and have to pay more for education, who do you think the universities pick first? (hint: in some of my classes immigrants outnumber us by 2:1) who do you think the employers pick first?
3. You and your family could be the 1/10 that's different, I'm not accusing you (although your spelling/grammar on the internet suggests differently)
4. my world is black and white
2. Immigrants are not cheaper there are laws for fair pay, i get paid very well in comparison to my peers.. Secondly its a proven fact that immigrants get better TER/UAI thats why there is more in your class.. And your ignorance lets you label "them and "us" how about you try "we" once in a while
3. I am typing on a phone not a computer, takes to long to type and i dont need to justify my grammer to you. As i said previously i finished top in the state in nsw for extension english...
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Blah blah blah I am a 6 generation aussie who talks like a pom, an aussie and throw a bit of humfra dumer in, thanks to all my immigrant friends. Traced my tree to england, france, denmark and the scariest place of them all manchester. In my street it was spot the aussie but it was still wrong to go around and bottle someone and beat the shit out of someone with a pole. You are getting off track with all this they are like this, I worked hard etc. We all play the game for various reasons but we all love it. I would like to think be it who ever you are anglo included if your club wants to condone, support or hide these people, see you later go and play something else. we dont need in in our league. With all the publicity I am sure the league will be onto it and do what they think is right. Gone are the days when it was man on man now its sticks, bottles and a boot in the head from five people, hey and I know what I will stab you for good measure as well. Clubs need to make the stand and tell these people no we dont want your crap here and which I could say most clubs I know do this and it is a credit to them. I think clubs with a strong junior culture have this ingrained into their way of operating as after all the kids and families are the life line of the club and they will soon turn away if the club is full of morons. Dont get me wrong I know a lot of people out there have suffered untold horrors and have a tradition of hatred and if thats the case there is nothing we say on here that will change that. All the best to everyone injured and heres to a speedy recovery. thats my rant done Legga the mongrel bittsa signing off....
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here here. and im scottishZelks wrote:Yids, my mother is Czech also, she was in Prague in 1968 during the Russian Invasion of 1968.
We fled from Communism, to find a better life, eventually we came to Australia - this is my home!
Football should unite us, not didvide us!!!
One of my favourite phrases:
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My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man" - JFK
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Anyone else find it somewhat incongruous that an out and out racist has chosen the user name 'yids'?
Oh, and if I was in charge I'd ban immigrants who were racist and send them back to the country they came from.
I'd rather a non-racist from anywhere than a racist anglo immigrant.
(In case it matters, 4 generations Australian, with English, Irish, Scottish, German and Danish heritage).
Oh, and if I was in charge I'd ban immigrants who were racist and send them back to the country they came from.
I'd rather a non-racist from anywhere than a racist anglo immigrant.
(In case it matters, 4 generations Australian, with English, Irish, Scottish, German and Danish heritage).
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I love the fact that English people living in Australia are against immigration ohhh the irony
Are you Bodo in disguise?
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get real no ones saying no immigration, just make the assessment tougher the mentioned nationality is having issues at club & school sport my nephew was telling me that theyve had trouble with kids grabbing poles at school soccer, threatening to shoot & kill other players, touching players faces to start fights, this at lunch time games as well as Saturday games "let them be" we're told, "they're traumatized" shte we'll be traumatized soon then what
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just to put a personal face to this saga the keeper who was bottled is a good family freind who used to play for me a few years ago such is his dedication his brother was involved in a hit and run 7 yrs ago he still turned up played and then went back to the hostpital where his brother later died ,on top of that at the age of 30 he is a father of 3 the latest born 6mths ago hes a tough nut and i hope he recovers well but for fks sake if youve got time to grab a bottle or pole think your not just hurting 1 person ,families, partners all suffer this might sound touchie touchie but ive been coaching and playing way too long and this type of behaviour is now seeping into jnr grades for fks sake its FOOTBALL
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Well said Knight15... a lot of hypocrisy...Knight15 wrote:I love the fact that English people living in Australia are against immigration ohhh the irony
Everybody's got someone in the family that came from overseas, unless you're aborigene...
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Now Val has written an article this morning and has listed 5 seperate incidents over the years naming clubs expect for the last one which happened way back in 1998 and he only mentions brawling at Elizabeth
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Watch the swift and decisive action now Government Grants are in jeopardy.
SAASL's reputation taking a battering in the paper today.
SAASL's reputation taking a battering in the paper today.
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How am I racist? Typical left wing, I'm anti immigration so I'm racistotto62 wrote:Anyone else find it somewhat incongruous that an out and out racist has chosen the user name 'yids'?
Oh, and if I was in charge I'd ban immigrants who were racist and send them back to the country they came from.
I'd rather a non-racist from anywhere than a racist anglo immigrant.
(In case it matters, 4 generations Australian, with English, Irish, Scottish, German and Danish heritage).
I'm living in England.Knight15 wrote:I love the fact that English people living in Australia are against immigration ohhh the irony
bingo!Jeda wrote: get real no ones saying no immigration, just make the assessment tougher :
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It's funny how you can be anti immigration, yet instantly be a racist. Silly fools need a dictionary!
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Copping it on the ABC this morning....The SAAFL and FFSA have commented on Hentchkes program but nothing from the SAASL, and he is making a point of this.Wraith wrote:Watch the swift and decisive action now Government Grants are in jeopardy.
SAASL's reputation taking a battering in the paper today.
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that's because they are all probably at their jobs. maybe it's time to get a full-time employee in there.
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Yids wrote:
It's funny how you can be anti immigration, yet instantly be a racist. Silly fools need a dictionary!
the same the world over, even mention the word immigration in a negative light and you are branded a racist.