Is Bundesliga the League model to follow?

[Con]

The August issue of London Magazine "WORLD SOCCER" reports that although the EPL is the most watched, reaching 650 million homes worldwide, many in England consider the Bundesliga is the model to follow:

* Highest attendances

* safe standing

* allowed to drink alcohol

* competitive league (a change of champion in 9 of the last 10 seasons with 6 clubs crowned)

* attacking football played at a fast pace

* thriving National team

* and most importantly, clubs must be 51% owned by the community, so there are no capricious, unaccountable foreign owners.

[BAGGIO 15]

The August issue of London Magazine "WORLD SOCCER" reports that although the EPL is the most watched, reaching 650 million homes worldwide, many in England consider the Bundesliga is the model to follow:

* Highest attendances

* safe standing

* allowed to drink alcohol

* competitive league (a change of champion in 9 of the last 10 seasons with 6 clubs crowned)

* attacking football played at a fast pace

* thriving National team

* and most importantly, clubs must be 51% owned by the community, so there are no capricious, unaccountable foreign owners.

They have a great league.
I tip them to keep progressing as they have the right safe guards in place, add the new UEFA rules soon too come in that will also protect them.

[PhilDunphy]

fantastic model for world football

would love epl to have that many challengers very season.......unfortunately $$$$ rules in the premier league

[ozzie owl]

fantastic model for world football

would love epl to have that many challengers very season.......unfortunately $$$$ rules in the premier league

I agree given the current European financial crisis makes sense for clubs to only spend what they can afford. Sadly the EPL has been allowed to be a billionaires play ground with little thought for the long term future of the game. The FA has been consistently weak in allowing the clubs to act so financially irresponsibly. The national side has suffered through the FA's neglect of the junior development as billions of pounds end up in the hands of the top players and their agents. We can all see the changes that need to be need but sadly FA is the perfect acronym as that is exactly what they have done to protect the long term future of the game.

[Goubebia]

There can be no doubt as to the Bundesligas status as the best organised Football competition in the world. The success of their model is so overwhelming i am actually surprised that UEFA and FIFA alike have not promoted it and better still forced it upon every sanctioned Football league in the world. It is the only model that allows all clubs to prosper on and off the park fairly and equitably and the football played in the Bundesliga is exactly what many people around the world like to see, skillfull yet attacking football played at a great pace with plenty of goals as well as beautiful football. Its the football that meets the needs of both purist and modern supporters alike. I am with you Baggio on this one.

[DOC]

your forgetting the most important thing hence why they are so successful, they cannot spend beyond their means, hoffenheim was taken over by a local millionaire, yet he could only really put his resources into training facilities and a stadium, players and wages come through club turnover and expenditure

[nuske]

I love my Bundesliga! Great young talent in it.

[Con]

But gotta concede - the EPL get the mega-billion-pounds TV deal.

Meanwhile, it's good I can get the Bundesliga on Setanta for $15.99 per month..

[ozzie owl]

But gotta concede - the EPL get the mega-billion-pounds TV deal.

Meanwhile, it's good I can get the Bundesliga on Setanta for $15.99 per month..

EPL survives on spending more than it earns by borrowing more money, where have we heard that lately? Oh yes the USA.

[Scholes]

The eternal England knocker is at it again. Let me lift up your rock so you can crawl under it out of the way.

[Talk Is Cheap]

The eternal Australia knocker is at it again. Let me lift up my rock so I can crawl under it out of the way.

Edited for, if the cap fits.

[Dutch_Master]

Bundeslida most exciting league in the world.

[redsfan]

Bundeslida most exciting league in the world.

on the pitch, off the pitch the serie A has all leagues covered for entertainment value.

[the_gun]

love the bundesliga. great league.

[Holy Guacamole]

Bundeslida most exciting league in the world.

on the pitch, off the pitch the serie A has all leagues covered for entertainment value.

Bundesliga > serie a

[Cicjose]

its definitely the most supported league from the big leagues in Europe

http://footballanarchy.com/2011/08/12/s ... n-numbers/

[Dutch_Master]

its definitely the most supported league from the big leagues in Europe

http://footballanarchy.com/2011/08/12/s ... n-numbers/

Great article

[pires7]

Also the biggest population which helps with attendences. Once you get to the 3rd div you start getting reserve teams of Bayern thus it doesn't have the same spread of teams across 4 divisions like in England which should also make it easier pickings for the big clubs.

[DOC]

Also the biggest population which helps with attendences. Once you get to the 3rd div you start getting reserve teams of Bayern thus it doesn't have the same spread of teams across 4 divisions like in England which should also make it easier pickings for the big clubs.

but the top teams all have great youth academies hence poaching of young talent doesn't really happen too much

[ozzie owl]

Great idea maybe then clubs who have to take out loans to cover wages then borrow more money to buy players might be put under control. I wonder how many of the big clubs across Europe would have the spending power they have now?

[Con]

Talkin' about moody millionaire owners, did forumites note that Birmingham City owner Carson Yeung, who has been charged with money-laundering in Hong Kong, was barred from going to the Club's 1st home game after his arrest?

No wonder the Germans legislate for 51% community ownership!

[Old Master]

Most importantly, the Germans put time into developing youth from every section of the community and introduce them to senior football earlier than most other countries.

Look at how quickly Leckie has been given his chance in the first team even though he lacks big time experience.

The fact he shows promise and is prepared to listen and learn is sufficient to persuade the coaching staff to give him a go.

The big EPL clubs don't give youth enough opportunities - with the exception of Arsenal and ManUre and to a lesser extent Everton.

The EPL also doesn't do enough to get the immigrant kids involved in football - the Germans have encouraged their migrants to become involved and have reaped the rewards at National level.

[Jay Walking]

The Bundesliga is a great league to watch. Started watching more of it last year and I have to agree, its great entertainment value. I still prefer the EPL but the problem in the EPL is, unless you have a Multi Billionaire buy you out, you can't win the title. Spain has a similar issue with Real Madrid. I do realise the system of ownership is different for Barca.

The Germans really are the best at doing most things though.

[Jay Walking]

The eternal England knocker is at it again. Let me lift up your rock so you can crawl under it out of the way.

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