BESA tribunal

bigdawg · Post by **bigdawg** » Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:43 pm

Chade wrote:
bigdawg wrote:because ONE does something wrong???? is this the same ONE who started all the trouble when they were called Vlaznia..... or maybe its the same ONE as when they were call Black Eagles????

come on
Yeah, I think Blotto might have been talking about the 20 "spectators" that invaded the pitch all at the same time in a coordinated manner... you know, the random ones that came to watch a game at Mt Barker for the first time 3/4 of the way through the season...

oh yeah, apparently they ALL came from interstate too. just random though

KING NUGGETT · Post by **KING NUGGETT** » Thu Jun 09, 2011 5:09 pm

The referee & witnesses have both stated that it was 3-4 BESA supporters who were invovled in the assualt.

The police were called 5-10 minutes before the Bashing;

Why didn't Senior BESA Officials, Club Marshals or just the good BESA supporters not go over by the culprits & try to calm the situation ?

Why then did they allow them to run onto the ground & attack the referee ?

Why did they allow the bashing to continue for minutes as the witnesses have stated ?

Why has the Club tried to play the victim & why have they not cooperated with the Police & the SAASL stating it was a random person not known to the Club ?

Why has BESA had 3-4 other identities ?

Why has BESA no right to Appeal ?

All of the above....

mvsc · Post by **mvsc** » Thu Jun 09, 2011 5:11 pm

also add - how is a good behaviour bond imposed on another club relevant to the actions of BESA?

gone · Post by **gone** » Thu Jun 09, 2011 5:52 pm

Option 1: kick them out & keep them out.

Option 2: see option 1.

What I was saying was IF the legal eagles tell SAASL they can't keep them out ..... only then look at other requirements that would need to be put in place.

Bond: Not just 'a' bond, SAASL tried that this time & I think I read that Besa have forfeited their bond (obviously wasn't big enough to make them really care). Make it a 'massive' bond, $10k or something.

Police: Of course the police have better things to do. Besa would have to pay for a police presence. Do you think the police come to Adelaide United games because they are just being helpful?

Extra conditions: Club officials required to give a personal guarantee to cover any fines levied against the club. Set some agreed 'massive' fines for pitch invasions, assaults, vandalism, etc.

ExtraTime · Post by **ExtraTime** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:29 pm

Interesting that half of besa have transferred to maiwand... Same div..

Jack Mehorf · Post by **Jack Mehorf** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:11 pm

bloodypassit wrote:Interesting that half of besa have transferred to maiwand... Same div..

Seriously, why should all players suffer for half a dozen pxiss week lame fxucks, move on.

gone · Post by **gone** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 11:37 pm

Perhaps so that some other ref doesn't get hospitalised when the "friends" of the "innocent" players ... sorry meant to say "interstate visitors that no-one knows" ... start hanging around again?

Jack Mehorf · Post by **Jack Mehorf** » Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:11 am

True...........i know a few of their guys otto, good blokes on and off the pitch.

gone · Post by **gone** » Sun Jul 03, 2011 1:17 pm

Unfortunately, evil triumphs when good men do nothing.

Jack Mehorf · Post by **Jack Mehorf** » Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:33 pm

otto62 wrote:Unfortunately, evil triumphs when good men do nothing.

Well said.

Bomber · Post by **Bomber** » Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:03 am

Have it good authority that offender has been dealt with "Justice Albanian style" and is currently nursing a bullet wound in the arse!

Chico · Post by **Chico** » Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:14 am

Bomber wrote:Have it good authority that offender has been dealt with "Justice Albanian style" and is currently nursing a bullet wound in the muscat!

Don't condone that tbh!!!

Blotto · Post by **Blotto** » Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:59 am

Bomber wrote:Have it good authority that offender has been dealt with "Justice Albanian style" and is currently nursing a bullet wound in the muscat!

offender? I thought there was 4 or 5 involved?

rabbit · Post by **rabbit** » Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:56 am

Chico wrote:
Bomber wrote:Have it good authority that offender has been dealt with "Justice Albanian style" and is currently nursing a bullet wound in the muscat!
Don't condone that tbh!!!

+1

the fink · Post by **the fink** » Sat Jul 09, 2011 6:19 pm

yes your gracious i reckon not bad outcome bit like aborigines that spear their own for fuck ups

God is an Englishman · Sat Jul 09, 2011 6:30 pm

rabbit wrote:
Chico wrote:
Bomber wrote:Have it good authority that offender has been dealt with "Justice Albanian style" and is currently nursing a bullet wound in the muscat!
Don't condone that tbh!!!
+1

who's the clown?

gone · Post by **gone** » Sat Jul 09, 2011 6:49 pm

GIAE, I'm sure it's Bomber that's the clown .... therefore

+2 ...... from me.

No one should make the mistake of thinking that the outrage on here after the ref attack was about revenge.
It wasn't. It was about justice. And that means the rule of law, not vigilante action.
Therein lies the mark of our democratic heritage.

God is an Englishman · Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:00 pm

otto62 wrote:GIAE, I'm sure it's Bomber that's the clown .... therefore +2 ...... from me.

No one should make the mistake of thinking that the outrage on here after the ref attack was about revenge.
It wasn't. It was about justice. And that means the rule of law, not vigilante action.
Therein lies the mark of our democratic heritage.

but bomber only reported it, not condoned it. So, it would make no sense for it to be him.

Steve#4 · Post by **Steve#4** » Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:20 pm

I have no problem with a community punishing a renegade as they see fit.....If that is what happened.

Well done tho said community...

bigdawg · Post by **bigdawg** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:11 am

Bomber wrote:Have it good authority that offender has been dealt with "Justice Albanian style" and is currently nursing a bullet wound in the muscat!

but how did they find him???? i thought he was from interstate and nobody knew who he was......

Bomber · Post by **Bomber** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:53 am

otto62 wrote:GIAE, I'm sure it's Bomber that's the clown .... therefore +2 ...... from me.

No one should make the mistake of thinking that the outrage on here after the ref attack was about revenge.
It wasn't. It was about justice. And that means the rule of law, not vigilante action.
Therein lies the mark of our democratic heritage.

I report a "rumour", and suddenly I am a

?

Thanks Otto, as Hawkesy has clearly demonstrated, I think the clown emoticon should go alongside your user name as a permanent fixture.

besa · Post by **besa** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:55 am

bigdawg wrote:
Chade wrote:
bigdawg wrote:because ONE does something wrong???? is this the same ONE who started all the trouble when they were called Vlaznia..... or maybe its the same ONE as when they were call Black Eagles????

come on
Yeah, I think Blotto might have been talking about the 20 "spectators" that invaded the pitch all at the same time in a coordinated manner... you know, the random ones that came to watch a game at Mt Barker for the first time 3/4 of the way through the season...
oh yeah, apparently they ALL came from interstate too. just random though

u know nothing dick face we will make another club its not everyones foult way say all greeks are shit its not true only 70 percent are players did nothing wrong.

gone · Post by **gone** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:39 pm

Hey Bomber, I apologise if I incorrectly interpreted your post.
I thought you were praising this action as an acceptable act of absolution by that community.

Perhaps you meant to say that you don't condone vigilante behaviour like shooting someone.
Would you like to clarify?
Or will it just end up like last time, with you justifying violence as being an acceptable response & me saying there is no excuse for violence?

Sorry I jumped the gun with the

, I hereby withdraw it & await your reply.

Bomber · Post by **Bomber** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:45 pm

otto62 wrote:Hey Bomber, I apologise if I incorrectly interpreted your post.
I thought you were praising this action as an acceptable act of absolution by that community.

Perhaps you meant to say that you don't condone vigilante behaviour like shooting someone.
Would you like to clarify?
Or will it just end up like last time, with you justifying violence as being an acceptable response & me saying there is no excuse for violence?

Sorry I jumped the gun with the , I hereby withdraw it & await your reply.

Fair enough and your explanation makes sense. Otto, I was merely posting something I heard from an Albanian about what happened to the main instigator, thats all. Not condoning, not not condoning either. Just thought that if true (and I have no reason to believe it isnt true), it would be of interest to all on here. Some may say "poetic justice", others may say its as bad as the initial act, whatever. Make you own minds up.
Cheers

gone · Post by **gone** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:03 pm

Thanks Bomber, a very even handed response. No clown from me on this one then.

millsy REF · Post by **millsy REF** » Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:52 am

besa will have tim next year seniors playing under 5 until they grow up and be honest about the incident what they done grow up besa

gone · Post by **gone** » Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:26 am

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besa · Post by **besa** » Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:00 pm

otto62 wrote:Thanks Bomber, a very even handed response. No clown from me on this one then.

besa · Post by **besa** » Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:01 pm

millsy REF wrote:besa will have tim next year seniors playing under 5 until they grow up and be honest about the incident what they done grow up besa

u suck dick fuck head

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