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Former Manchester United midfielder Paul Scholes: The biggest problem with most English players is that they are just too selfish

The 36-year-old admits individuals use the international stage to engineer a move to a big club and finds it "laughable" that the Three Lions tend to be pre-tournament favourites


Former Manchester United midfielder Paul Scholes has hit out at England's international stars, insisting that the biggest problem with most English players is that they are "just too selfish".

Scholes, who amassed 66 caps for his country before quitting the international scene back in 2004, retired from football at the end of last season and the 36-year-old admits he grew "fed up" with Three Lions players who were only interested in personal glory.

“I got fed up,” Scholes said, as quoted by the Telegraph. “When you are going to a team, and you want to be part of a team and playing well, and there are individuals who are after personal glory... when there is a simple pass of 10 yards, they might try and smack it 80 yards. They will do things to try and get themselves noticed.

“No, [playing out of position] was never a problem. I played on the left for United I don’t know how many times. I probably had my most successful time scoring goals in that position so it was never a problem.”

Liverpool defender Jamie Carragher has suggested in the past that players care more about playing for their club than for their country and Scholes suggests that could be half the problem England face.

“You still hate losing, whether it is Manchester United or England,” he added.

“Maybe it is half the problem if players are going into that squad and not caring about it. I think there definitely is an element of that, what Jamie said about not being bothered about England losing.

“I always felt when I first started going away with England, players — especially players at clubs like your Aston Villas — try to use England as a way to get to a top club. Which, I don’t know, you feel: are they there for the right reason? I think they are very selfish people.

“It happened in my day, I think they are all there to get their bit of glory, their headlines, to think, ‘Oh, I will get a move from this’. That is the biggest problem with English players: that most of them are just too selfish.

“[When they get their move] they have probably done what they have wanted to do and that is enough, to get to a big club. It was a frustration for us United lads. It was just selfish. If you look at the Spain team now, they all seem to play for each other. There isn’t one of them who would try to do something in a game that doesn’t suit the team and the way they play. And that could happen over here.”

Scholes went on to suggest that he finds it "laughable" that England enter major international competitions and are considered pre-tournament favourites by many.

“No [England players are not technically deficient], it is probably more attitude. If you look through our teams, there are loads of technically brilliant players but for some reason when we go onto the international scene, we don’t look like that. Why? I just don’t know. We, England, go to these tournaments with the greatest of hopes when really the reality of winning something is not really there because there are so many good teams.

“The French of a few years ago, Spains, Brazils, Argentinas, we just seem to be not as good as them.

“You never feel that when you are playing. You always think you’ve got a chance. We feel we’ve got the good players, people say the best in the world, but I don’t really think we have if you go on international tournaments.

“We are the favourites every time and we probably will be next time.

“We will beat Macedonia 6-0 in qualifiers and we’ll be 5/1 favourites for the World Cup. It is just the way we are. I think it is quite laughable, don’t you? It is just the mentality of English people. We think we are going to win everything.”
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BAGGIO 15 wrote:“No [England players are not technically deficient], it is probably more attitude. If you look through our teams, there are loads of technically brilliant players but for some reason when we go onto the international scene, we don’t look like that.
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BAGGIO 15 wrote:“No [England players are not technically deficient], it is probably more attitude. If you look through our teams, there are loads of technically brilliant players but for some reason when we go onto the international scene, we don’t look like that.
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You do realise you're calling Scholes technically deficient, right?
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Can't wait until GIAE finds this thread.
Time for some righteous indignation
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Stitch This wrote:Can't wait until GIAE finds this thread.
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A bloke who turned his back on the England team criticising those who actually give a shit and play.

Him criticising players who care more about themselves than their national side and more about their clubs than the national side. Well he's in the best position to know about that isn't he.


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God is an Englishman wrote:A bloke who turned his back on the England team criticising those who actually give a cabernet and play.

Him criticising players who care more about themselves than their national side and more about their clubs than the national side. Well he's in the best position to know about that isn't he.


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The thing is, he's right.

Unfortunately he falls into the same category!
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God is an Englishman wrote:A bloke who turned his back on the England team criticising those who actually give a cabernet and play.

Him criticising players who care more about themselves than their national side and more about their clubs than the national side. Well he's in the best position to know about that isn't he.


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do you think any of them care about their national team more than their club. I doubt it
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The one and only wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:A bloke who turned his back on the England team criticising those who actually give a cabernet and play.

Him criticising players who care more about themselves than their national side and more about their clubs than the national side. Well he's in the best position to know about that isn't he.


TRULY LAUGHABLE!!
do you think any of them care about their national team more than their club. I doubt it
They bloody should :?
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The one and only wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:A bloke who turned his back on the England team criticising those who actually give a cabernet and play.

Him criticising players who care more about themselves than their national side and more about their clubs than the national side. Well he's in the best position to know about that isn't he.


TRULY LAUGHABLE!!
do you think any of them care about their national team more than their club. I doubt it
Rooney, Lampard & Terry all seem to actually give a fuck. The others I'm not so sure!
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God is an Englishman wrote:
The one and only wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:A bloke who turned his back on the England team criticising those who actually give a cabernet and play.

Him criticising players who care more about themselves than their national side and more about their clubs than the national side. Well he's in the best position to know about that isn't he.


TRULY LAUGHABLE!!
do you think any of them care about their national team more than their club. I doubt it
Rooney, Lampard & Terry all seem to actually give a shiraz. The others I'm not so sure!
rooney gave the english fans the finger would he ever do that to the man united fans ? i doubt it
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The one and only wrote:rooney gave the english fans the finger would he ever do that to the man united fans ? i doubt it
we'll never know. However, would man u fans have abused him for being shit. NO, because they can't see past their alex ferguson inspired rudolph noses.
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God is an Englishman wrote:
The one and only wrote:rooney gave the english fans the finger would he ever do that to the man united fans ? i doubt it
we'll never know. However, would man u fans have abused him for being cabernet. NO, because they can't see past their alex ferguson inspired rudolph noses.
maybe if when they had a bad day playing for their country the supporters didnt abuse them they would want to play for the country
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English players only reflect the society they live in.

Its why they have only won one World Cup, on home soil, that they cheated in anyway.
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LFTWNG11 wrote:English players only reflect the society they live in.

Its why they have only won one World Cup, on home soil, that they cheated in anyway.
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Yids wrote:
LFTWNG11 wrote:English players only reflect the society they live in.

Its why they have only won one World Cup, on home soil, that they cheated in anyway.
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:lol: I knew one fish would bite straight away... wodner how long til Bow Ties comes in and helps you out? Or maybe Hawksy will come to your rescue...

Everyone cheats.

I will take comfort in the fact my top has 4 stars on it, yours has 1. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Everyone cheats. The Italians just cheat a little more
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Yids wrote:Everyone cheats. The Italians just cheat a little more
I thought you'd of blamed Maradonna :lol: .
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Yids wrote:Everyone cheats. The Italians just cheat a little more
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Great picture! Where did you get it from!
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lol any way back to it my point is why would you choose country over club when your countries supporters treat you like crap
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The one and only wrote:lol any way back to it my point is why would you choose country over club when your countries supporters treat you like crap
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Yids wrote:Great picture! Where did you get it from!
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LFTWNG11 wrote:English players only reflect the society they live in.

Its why they have only won one World Cup, on home soil, that they cheated in anyway.


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BECAUSE it's your country!

it's every kids dream to pull on his national shirt and represent their country. If I was told I would be good enough to play one game for England, but I'd have a car crash the next day and have my leg amuptated then I would thoroughly enjoy pulling on the 3 Lions.

A section of England fans gave Rooney shit in one game because he wasn't putting in the effort. England fans will accept a player being shit but they won't accept not giving 100%.
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LFTWNG11 wrote:I will take comfort in the fact my top has 4 stars on it, yours has 1. :lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol: you lot still clinging on to those first 2 stars, do you really count them as real world cups :lol:
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God is an Englishman wrote:
LFTWNG11 wrote:I will take comfort in the fact my top has 4 stars on it, yours has 1. :lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol: you lot still clinging on to those first 2 stars, do you really count them as real world cups :lol:
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Or you can just count the stars...

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LFTWNG11 wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
LFTWNG11 wrote:I will take comfort in the fact my top has 4 stars on it, yours has 1. :lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol: you lot still clinging on to those first 2 stars, do you really count them as real world cups :lol:
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Do you remember posting this
I knew one fish would bite straight away...
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God is an Englishman wrote:Do you remember posting this
I knew one fish would bite straight away...
I also enjoy posting pictures of Italians with World Cups and all that, so please fish away. I have plenty more picture for you to view. God knows you would get sick of looking at the photos from 1966 all the time.
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