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[gunners14]

ahaha you really can't be serious, i guess people may find our coaches enthusiasm distracting or disrespectful, however, i as a player of PHU love his intensity, if he was your own coach and you generally knew him as a person you wouldnt sit their behind your keyboards and judge him one bit at all.

even though 10-0 up at half time seems as a 'secure' win, we still have to perform at our best to try and be moved up, every single player on our team knows that we shouldnt be in this league that ffsa have placed us in.

Now as for the girl who kicked the goal after your player was winded, you only have your team mate to blame as she was the one who had possession of the ball as soon as that girl went down, now she didnt kick it out even though she was right near the side lines, our player who recieved the ball hadnt actually caught on as to what was going on as she's only just started soccer again, so please dont point the finger at our team and call us unsportsmanlike.

Before you continue to post comments and have anymore 'digs' at us, put yourself in our position, it really isnt the easiest playing in a division where you unable to play at your full potential, however this is where we have been placed for this year, so we will try and treat this year as if we were in the division we should be. and as for one of the previous comments we never applied for the div 1/state division, so please dont make assumptions when you yourself have the wrong facts.

[just_that]

Now as for the girl who kicked the goal after your player was winded, you only have your team mate to blame as she was the one who had possession of the ball as soon as that girl went down, now she didnt kick it out even though she was right near the side lines, our player who recieved the ball hadnt actually caught on as to what was going on as she's only just started soccer again, so please dont point the finger at our team and call us unsportsmanlike.

You're right in that she didn't kick it out but she did actually try to put the ball out. Guess it justs sucks that she couldn't kick the ball 10m?! But you must remember it's supposed to be a 'social' league so majority of girls in this division have never even played before.
As for your player who has just started playing soccer again so was unaware, maybe the couple of passes that happened before the goal was scored would have been a fantastic opportunity to put the ball out.
Anyway, enjoy your games against Raiders because they may be the only games that you'll be playing for the rest of the season.

[gunners14]

she was actually in her own goal square, a few metres from the line, but i understand where your coming from, but it was a mis understanding and we really didnt mean for it to come across as unsportsmanlike, we've been in a game where the other team has been unsportsmanlike and we mean in no way to come across like that.

well if thats whats with all the other teams then fair enough, they are entitled to forfeit, but this is the way we have to play for the year, so its upto ffsa to make some changes, until that happens or if that happens we will still continue to play at our best.

[heyyyyy]

I Played for PHU for 8years before having to move to the Knights because i was too old to keep playing there as they were only a Junior club. I played for the Knights for 2years before transferring back to PHU because the knights dont give 2 shits about there womans teams and only care for the men.

And i've played there far more seasons than you Hayley and can tell you that Para Hills Knights are one of the few major mens club who have unconditional support for their womens team from the club president and committee combined. They have stuck by us through some very hard times and without all their help we wouldn't be where we are today. It's a shame because it seems that most of PHU have all been 'brainwashed' into believing otherwise.

So perhaps take a little of your own advice on board that your team mates are giving to others and don't go making accustations on situations that you really know nothing about... ayyy.

[gunners14]

so which knights player are you?

[ilikeprawns]

they've been there through very hard times for 'us' can I just ask who is 'us'? because last year it sure wasn't ALL of knights. they didn't give a shit about the div 2 team and let's face it who would have wanted to play div 1 last year with that training haha?

[heyyyyy]

they've been there through very hard times for 'us' can I just ask who is 'us'? because last year it sure wasn't ALL of knights. they didn't give a cabernet about the div 2 team and let's face it who would have wanted to play div 1 last year with that training haha?

Like I said previously, it's a shame you don't all have your own thoughts. When the PHK go to the FFSA they represent the womens' team, not solely Div 1 or Div 2.

I have nothing else to post, it's irrelevant who I am, I'm not being cryptic. I'm just doing as you are and sticking up for my club. However, I am not slagging off other clubs in the process.

I'll let you all get back to your banter with the others. ciao.

[ilikeprawns]

just because we all have similar thoughts it doesn't mean it's not our own opinion.

[batumgoesthedynamite]

PHU coach is a shocker.
Carries on like a knob, and shows no respect to the opposition.
Ive even heard of clubs turning down friendlies in preseason because of the way he carries on and it not being worth the hassle.

[gunners14]

Sorry mate but thats just someone who loves their football. You dont know him at all, so stop passing judgement, and like I said never go by what you heard, Chinese whispers never stay the same so dont count on with what you heard is the truth. We also only sorted out the stuff with ffsa about 2 weeks prior to the season, the clubs we rang actually no longer had a womens team.

[Caretaker Coach]

And if clubs decide to forfeit their games against you,rather then be subject to that kind of behaviour and attitude,where will that leave you ? Just as you are trying to send the FFSA a message, we are trying to send you a message,but someone aint listening.

[gunners14]

Then they forfeit, theres nothing we can do about that, still get three points, by the end of the season hopefully we will be moved up.

[ball_girl]

And if clubs decide to forfeit their games against you,rather then be subject to that kind of behaviour and attitude,where will that leave you ? Just as you are trying to send the FFSA a message, we are trying to send you a message,but someone aint listening.

If that was the case and clubs are deciding to forfeit the games, then they have no right to have a whinge about losing enjoyment of a game because of a passionate coach and a good team of players... by forfeiting everyone misses out anyways. Can't have it both ways. But hey.

[on the side]

And if clubs decide to forfeit their games against you,rather then be subject to that kind of behaviour and attitude,where will that leave you ? Just as you are trying to send the FFSA a message, we are trying to send you a message,but someone aint listening.

If that was the case and clubs are deciding to forfeit the games, then they have no right to have a whinge about losing enjoyment of a game because of a passionate coach and a good team of players... by forfeiting everyone misses out anyways. Can't have it both ways. But hey.

it's not that they are good! they are great players and a great team, no one is saying anything about the fact of getting beaten, otherwise wouldn't the same thing be said about Raiders? its the players and the coach's attitude in doing it that is demoralising and frustrasting, and nobody is 'going by what they heard' and making judgements based on nothing, we are the players and supporters of differents teams and club seeing this happen with our own eyes and ears.

[Hayley-PHU player]

I Played for PHU for 8years before having to move to the Knights because i was too old to keep playing there as they were only a Junior club. I played for the Knights for 2years before transferring back to PHU because the knights dont give 2 shits about there womans teams and only care for the men.

And i've played there far more seasons than you Hayley and can tell you that Para Hills Knights are one of the few major mens club who have unconditional support for their womens team from the club president and committee combined. They have stuck by us through some very hard times and without all their help we wouldn't be where we are today. It's a shame because it seems that most of PHU have all been 'brainwashed' into believing otherwise.

So perhaps take a little of your own advice on board that your team mates are giving to others and don't go making accustations on situations that you really know nothing about... ayyy.

Well, Your clearly dont play on the womens side do you?! Otherwise u would know that they really couldnt give a shit about their womens teams. They wouldnt of lost 12 players last season if they did! You say 'They have stuck by us through some very hard times and without all their help we wouldn't be where we are today'.
Exactly where are you? You have lost sooooooo many great players, some have even now gone on to play for adelaide and the young Matildas! Mayb if they had of fixed this problem a LONG TIME AGO they would still be in premier League!

[gunners14]

Well then as a player of the team I would like to know what the players are doing wrong by you?

[Hayley-PHU player]

There are a lot of things you could do to improve your own game while still going out and having fun; playing players out of position, using only your weak foot to take shots, only shooting from outside the box, only passing to move the ball no dribbling etc. Once you're 10-0 up at half time, dont you think maybe it's time to try to do things to extend yourselves rather than just pounding in for 1v1's with the keeper?

See you still dont understand where we are coming from, we need the highest score possible to show FFSA that we shouldnt be in this league. We REALLLLYYYY dont want to be in this league. Its really not that fun for us, we want competition, not to smash every team!

I see where you's are coming from and i do feel for you girls but the FFSA are the ones that have stuffed up here and they are the only ones that can fix it. The quicker they do so the better!

[Unretired]

I too feel sorry for the girls from PHU.

Why cant they celebrate the goals they get...Its defs not their fault they are there...

FFSA should have done the right thing after the first game...I know its hard for the other girls to get beaten by so much but if they are out there just for fun in the social leagues it shouldnt matter how much they get beaten by....Have fun and dont worry about the score....

[gunners14]

Thankyou for your support

[Sportybear]

Perhaps I am a bit new to this.
Could someone with more experience than me explain at which point a coach should stop cheering his team when they score a goal?
Is it 6-0 or 10-0 and if it is and the opposition scores to make it 10-1 can he cheer the next one?
What is the cut of point to being called unsportsmanlike????

I have 2 girls playing in PHU junior teams. When should I stop cheering if they score goals? Is cheering 5 individual goals ok, and 6 is unsportsmanlike?

I take my daughters to watch the PHU Div 4 team that is being discussed here. I take them to see good play and great field position, so they can learn.

I have heard the PHU Div 4 coach calling out to players, and yes walking the line. I have heard him encouraging the opposition players too. I have heard him call out "well done keeper" as well as "great strike" to his striker on the same play. I hear him call out "great ball" often, when the opposition puts through a good pass.

All this has displayed to me is his passion for the game and drive for his players to improve.

It must be hard to keep a team motivated and keep them improving in this difficult situation they are in.

[east banga]

phu is a quality team and that has quality players they are way to good to be playing in that league its quite sad to see ffsa not put them up cause quite honest they could take on sides in higher divs and give them a run for there money .. enough said

[Hayley-PHU player]

Thankyouuuuuuu for your support

[themagnet]

There are a lot of things you could do to improve your own game while still going out and having fun; playing players out of position, using only your weak foot to take shots, only shooting from outside the box, only passing to move the ball no dribbling etc. Once you're 10-0 up at half time, dont you think maybe it's time to try to do things to extend yourselves rather than just pounding in for 1v1's with the keeper?

See you still dont understand where we are coming from, we need the highest score possible to show FFSA that we shouldnt be in this league. We REALLLLYYYY dont want to be in this league. Its really not that fun for us, we want competition, not to smash every team!

I see where you's are coming from and i do feel for you girls but the FFSA are the ones that have stuffed up here and they are the only ones that can fix it. The quicker they do so the better!

do you really think 20-0 sends a stronger message than 18-0? FFSA are fully aware of what's going to happen each week.
Again, and I think everyone on here agrees, FFSA has made a huge stuff up here and all sides are paying for it.
Have you ever heard of the saying 'be gracious in defeat', well you can also be gracious in victory. Think of it as a life lesson.
No one is saying don't celebrate, there's just no need to jump up and down like you've just scored the winning goal of a cup final, when it's actually number 15 with 30 minutes to go.
Seeing as most of the teams in the comp can't really challenge you, the only way your team will get any benefit out of this season is if you challenge yourselves. Sure, you can go out every week, let your strongest player do all the work, and score 20 tap ins, but in a few years, as you slowly climb up the divisions, you'll eventually come up against a team that will be able to stop that happening, and if you don't practice ways to combat that now, you'll have troubles with it later on. You may as well take the opportunity to practice in game like situations as much as you can.
Or a couple of players can keep scoring 10 goals a game, your choice.

[ilikeprawns]

okay so i actually have no idea where this idea that we jump up and down after every goal is coming from but we don't even jump up and down on the first goal :S like literally every goal we give a little high five on the way past a player and get on with it so now it's pretty obvious that you are just making up any little thing to be angry at us? we haven't done anything wrong and if somebodys attitude is disgusting on the pitch then report it or something or talk to the person. I really haven't witnessed any disgusting behaviour going on so believe what you want, just stop going on about it. as for the 'tap-ins' comment we play well as a team, pass it around and then the strikers finish it which is what generally happens in a football match haha? ever watched a game of epl? yeah maybe sometimes a few players will take some on but wouldn't you if you could? maybe 'we are the players you never were'.

[Lucas Leiva]

Looking from the inside out is different to what everyone else sees from the outside in.

Ultimately, I think we can all agree:

The current scenario is neither beneficial or wanted by PHU or its opponents. The blame rests solely on the FFSA for creating this scenario. Whatever happens on matchdays is a manifestation of the scenario.

It's up to every club / player / coach to react in an appropriate manner. Whether this is happening or not, is open to opinion (as proved with all these posts). The majority don't agree with the minority, as is the case all over the world.

Look at the World Cup Final as an example. The majority of the world loved watching Spain play. The minority of supporters loved watching the way Holland play. In the end, the majority of the world condemned what Holland tried (with their aggressive play), but to them and their minority support, they saw nothing wrong. Similar deal, different people.

Like someone said above, everyone will have to agree to disagree.

PHU won't be graded again this year as there would be 6 catch-up games at this point, and not even being out of the cup would there be room for that. Plus, you'd have to shift both PHU and Raiders if that were to happen - you can't remove a team winning 20-0 and leave a team winning 10-0 in there.

[Tricky_Feet]

Come and watch div 4 and you'll soon realize that PHU and Raiders should most defiantly not be placed in this division! Its up to FFSA to change it!

[themagnet]

PHU won't be graded again this year as there would be 6 catch-up games at this point, and not even being out of the cup would there be room for that. Plus, you'd have to shift both PHU and Raiders if that were to happen - you can't remove a team winning 20-0 and leave a team winning 10-0 in there.

I tend to agree (although I live in hope). Last year when teams were moved mid season they've gone into a div that had the bye. This year only div 3 and the elite divs have the bye. Doubt it'd be worth PHU even going into div 3, they'd still dominate, and I can't see FFSA letting them into the State league this far into the season, that would look pretty bad for them.
Your point about Raiders is valid too, wouldn't be fair to move one and not the other.

[Caretaker Coach]

Come and watch div 4 and you'll soon realize that PHU and Raiders should most defiantly not be placed in this division! Its up to FFSA to change it!

Their next door neighbour advertising for players for the state league,they could always go there ?

[gunners14]

Read the first page then you can realise the mistake you made in that previous statement.

[nanstar]

These are my thoughts. Since the state league has a bye. PHU Should move into the State league this weekend, which is just after every team has already played each other once. they should forfeit every game that they have missed so far in the state league and focus on the rest of the season. If they are true to their word, and they aren't enjoying smashing every team, and they are only doing so to prove that they should move up, then they shouldn't have a problem with moving to state league without the points from the beginning 6 rounds. It is pointless for them to stay in Div 4. If they moved in round 7 maybe they could have one catch up game so that they at least get to play every team twice.

What does everyone think about this?