Real Madrid v Barcelona

[johnydep]

lol.

"Josep Guardiola is a fantastic football coach, but he has won one Champions League which would embarrass me after the scandalous goings-on at Stamford Bridge, and this year if he wins it again it will be after the scandalous goings-on at the Bernabeu," were Mourinho's words under Barcelona review.

"I don't know if it's the Unicef publicity or the friendship of [Angel] Villar at Uefa, where he is vice-president. I don't know if it's because they are so nice, but they have got great power. The rest of us have no chance."

"It's always the same - even before the sending off they didn't attack since they know they are at home and they can still go to the Camp Nou," Gerard Pique, the Barcelona defender, said. "In the end, when you play with fire you end up getting burnt and that's what happened with Real Madrid. If it happens once you can say it's by chance but it's not the first time it happens."

"Whenever you play against Barca, whenever you touch them, they are on the floor crying like a baby," the Real striker Emmanuel Adebayor said. "Barcelona is a fantastic club, they play fantastic football, but they have to stop that."

[totsreds08]

Anyone care to still argue the Messi vs Ronaldo argument........

No point, the little man will possibly be the greatest of all time. What a goal the second one was. He always chips in when it counts.

Messi is the only player that can be compared to Diego.

having said that, i would like to see Messi marked the same way Diego was.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08SI2DWn ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsnvYMKEP0Y

[getborn]

Anyone care to still argue the Messi vs Ronaldo argument........

No point, the little man will possibly be the greatest of all time. What a goal the second one was. He always chips in when it counts.

Messi is the only player that can be compared to Diego.

having said that, i would like to see Messi marked the same way Diego was.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08SI2DWn ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsnvYMKEP0Y

are you suggesting Messi recieves the same treatment Diego did?

the game has been sanitised since diegos era.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3byTNRoxujo

[Litmanen]

Weak red in my opinion. Compare that with carraghers on nani!

Anyways Jose could b in sum cabernet with what he said in his press conference.

Nani is soft, got a cabernet reputation for diving, etc.

Pepe is a cockhead, got a cabernet reputation for being a dirty champagne.

Which is why he got sent off.

Reputation, it had nothing to do with the tackle, as i said Messi or Xavi would have been given a yellow at best.

Barca play this pretty football so the officials think they owe them a favor or something.... it just shouldn't happen, let alone in the CL.

[bapa]

He is a once in a generation player the little man.

God bless his parents and thank you to them for providing us with the pleasure of watching a genius at work.

Hardly complains, comes up with the goods week in week out, never gets sent off (i dont think so anyway..). Best and fairest player out there.

absolutely, love the way Messi just gets on with the game. He gets fouled, chopped and shirt tugged etc.
BTW, did u see how many times the Real players dived into him when he had the ball and was on a run.
Awesome ability by Messi to evade tackles etc
The great diego loves Messi, all Argies love Messi.
Il Pocho Lavezzi loves him, even dedicated a FB page to him.
He posted a pic of Messi in a Napoli top, if only..........

[Nice One Cyril]

Whilst you have to admire Messi and Barca's football, all this play acting and swarming the ref is now just organised cheating and FIFA need to do something about it quickly. It's ruining football and it's completely unecessary but, sadly, I doubt they have the balls.

[bapa]

if Fifa cannot outlaw diving and punish the divers, how do u think they will stop the group swarming the ref.

funny thing, it wasnt necessary as the Ref was goin to send Pepe off, neways

[Le King]

So is Guardiola getting fined and banned for swearing in the cam?

[MegaBonus]

ruud


messi steps up in the big games... when it counts!

like he did at last years world cup......

[Nice One Cyril]

if Fifa cannot outlaw diving and punish the divers, how do u think they will stop the group swarming the ref.

funny thing, it wasnt necessary as the Ref was goin to send Pepe off, neways

It's not a question of 'cannot', more that they lack the political will to go up against the clubs, who would all whinge and whine. If they chose to, it's really simple to to put an end to it, but it would require FIFA to have the cojones to actually make the punishment so severe that the players and managers would stop themselves.

Personally, I find it to be the worst kind of cheating as it degrades the very integrity of the game.

[bapa]

if Fifa cannot outlaw diving and punish the divers, how do u think they will stop the group swarming the ref.

funny thing, it wasnt necessary as the Ref was goin to send Pepe off, neways

It's not a question of 'cannot', more that they lack the political will to go up against the clubs, who would all whinge and whine. If they chose to, it's really simple to to put an end to it, but it would require FIFA to have the cojones to actually make the punishment so severe that the players and managers would stop themselves.

Personally, I find it to be the worst kind of cheating as it degrades the very integrity of the game.

agree to an extent.
However, i have mixed views

I totally do not condone cheating, in any form, however from a players point of view, with the amount of pressure on them to perform from managers, sponsors, club owners, supporters etc its become to much to bear to play "fair"!
many of us have and will continue to get an upper hand in future, its human nature.

also, with all this technology, multiple cameras etc, why would anyone especially on a televised game, even contemplate diving or cheating???


It all comes down to FIFA and if they have the "cogliones" to stamp it out.

but from a leagl point of view, what happens if someone is deemed to be actually fouled and he is punished, and then decides to fight in court etc???

alot of cans COULD be opened, just saying

[Nice One Cyril]

I totally condone cheating, in any form, however from a players point of view, with the amount of pressure on them to perform from managers, sponsors, club owners, supporters etc its become to much to bear to play "fair"!

I really hope you've mistyped that bit.

also, with all this technology, multiple cameras etc, why would anyone especially on a televised game, even contemplate diving or cheating???

But they do all the time. Why? Because they know that if they can fool the referee then there will be no penalty for cheating. You'll never stop them fooling the referees on the day but, if you used video evidence to ban them subsequently for something like 6 matches, their managers would be telling them not to do it and it would very quickly stop.

but from a leagl point of view, what happens if someone is deemed to be actually fouled and he is punished, and then decides to fight in court etc???

FIFA's competition, FIFA's rules. You have no recourse in common law.

[getborn]

[themagnet]

He is a once in a generation player the little man.

God bless his parents and thank you to them for providing us with the pleasure of watching a genius at work.

Hardly complains, comes up with the goods week in week out, never gets sent off (i dont think so anyway..). Best and fairest player out there.

absolutely, love the way Messi just gets on with the game. He gets fouled, chopped and shirt tugged etc.
BTW, did u see how many times the Real players dived into him when he had the ball and was on a run.
Awesome ability by Messi to evade tackles etc
..........

+1

[bapa]

I totally condone cheating, in any form, however from a players point of view, with the amount of pressure on them to perform from managers, sponsors, club owners, supporters etc its become to much to bear to play "fair"!

I really hope you've mistyped that bit.

also, with all this technology, multiple cameras etc, why would anyone especially on a televised game, even contemplate diving or cheating???

But they do all the time. Why? Because they know that if they can fool the referee then there will be no penalty for cheating. You'll never stop them fooling the referees on the day but, if you used video evidence to ban them subsequently for something like 6 matches, their managers would be telling them not to do it and it would very quickly stop.

but from a leagl point of view, what happens if someone is deemed to be actually fouled and he is punished, and then decides to fight in court etc???

FIFA's competition, FIFA's rules. You have no recourse in common law.

ooooopsssy

[themagnet]

if Fifa cannot outlaw diving and punish the divers, how do u think they will stop the group swarming the ref.

funny thing, it wasnt necessary as the Ref was goin to send Pepe off, neways

all they ahve to do is start awarding yellow cards to divers after the game upon video review, and with the likelyhood of getting suspended for future matches players will soon stop. Same goes for swarming the ref, only the captain should be talking to the ref. Just flash a few cards around and see how quickly everyone shuts up. Of course FIFA would need to introduce and uphold these penalties.

[bapa]

if Fifa cannot outlaw diving and punish the divers, how do u think they will stop the group swarming the ref.

funny thing, it wasnt necessary as the Ref was goin to send Pepe off, neways

all they ahve to do is start awarding yellow cards to divers after the game upon video review, and with the likelyhood of getting suspended for future matches players will soon stop. Same goes for swarming the ref, only the captain should be talking to the ref. Just flash a few cards around and see how quickly everyone shuts up. Of course FIFA would need to introduce and uphold these penalties.

we all know that FIFA is corrupt?
BIG teams would not allow this decision to be made, cos then how would they cheat????

[Nice One Cyril]

if Fifa cannot outlaw diving and punish the divers, how do u think they will stop the group swarming the ref.

funny thing, it wasnt necessary as the Ref was goin to send Pepe off, neways

all they ahve to do is start awarding yellow cards to divers after the game upon video review, and with the likelyhood of getting suspended for future matches players will soon stop. Same goes for swarming the ref, only the captain should be talking to the ref. Just flash a few cards around and see how quickly everyone shuts up. Of course FIFA would need to introduce and uphold these penalties.

Exactly, except that a yellow is not sufficient deterrent. Ban the guilty players for 6 games and then see how quickly the coaches change their tune.

[BAGGIO 15]

Sergio Ramos, Pepe and Pinto join suspension lists as Clasico absentee list grows and grows
Neither Real Madrid nor Barcelona will be at anything even approaching full strength in the next clash between the sides due to a raft of new suspensions to join those sidelined
By Ewan Macdonald

Find the best odds and bet on La Liga. The festival of cards shown in Real Madrid's 2-0 home defeat to Barcelona will have ramifications far beyond Wednesday night, with both sides now lacking several players for the return-leg at Camp Nou next Tuesday.

The 'battle of the Bernabeu' saw Sergio Ramos pick up a suspension after earning a yellow card, while Pepe's straight red will see him sit out the return leg.

Almost certainly set to miss out is Real Madrid coach Jose Mourinho, who was sent to the stands for what he described as some laughter and clapping towards referee Wolfgang Stark in the aftermath of Pepe's dismissal.

On the other side, Barcelona's substitute goalkeeper Jose Manuel Pinto was the first to see red, the veteran receiving his marching orders for his part in a half-time melee.

It leaves the list of missing names for the second-leg clash longer than it already was. Players in italics could potentially return for the match:

[BTAC]

Weak red in my opinion. Compare that with carraghers on nani!

Anyways Jose could b in sum cabernet with what he said in his press conference.

Nani is soft, got a cabernet reputation for diving, etc.

Pepe is a cockhead, got a cabernet reputation for being a dirty champagne.

Which is why he got sent off.

Reputation, it had nothing to do with the tackle, as i said Messi or Xavi would have been given a yellow at best.

Barca play this pretty football so the officials think they owe them a favor or something.... it just shouldn't happen, let alone in the CL.

That was my point.

[Litmanen]

Weak red in my opinion. Compare that with carraghers on nani!

Anyways Jose could b in sum cabernet with what he said in his press conference.

Nani is soft, got a cabernet reputation for diving, etc.

Pepe is a cockhead, got a cabernet reputation for being a dirty champagne.


Which is why he got sent off.

Reputation, it had nothing to do with the tackle, as i said Messi or Xavi would have been given a yellow at best.

Barca play this pretty football so the officials think they owe them a favor or something.... it just shouldn't happen, let alone in the CL.

That was my point.

Ok so we agree then.


In that case.


You're awesome.

[BTAC]

Ok so we agree then.


In that case.


You're awesome.

[hero2zero]

pretty rough call the red card challenging for the ball even though he caught him clean tough decision.
messi is just amazing though what a second goal.

Check out how 'clean' he caught him

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2oRXFRl ... r_embedded

[Chade]

pretty rough call the red card challenging for the ball even though he caught him clean tough decision.
messi is just amazing though what a second goal.

Check out how 'clean' he caught him

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2oRXFRl ... r_embedded

What's he doing going in for a tackle with raised studs at knee height?

He can keep his red for stupidity.

[The Kop]

Never get sick of watching this

[BTAC]

^

[Litmanen]

haha, that's awesome. If i was an admin i'd change everyone's signature to that!

[getborn]

same old same old after the second leg.

barca claim they were superior, madrid claim to be hard done by.

whatever the case this would have made things very interesting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lX6tu9Wjbs

Furious Cristiano Ronaldo: Barcelona taught Javier Mascherano how to cheat

The Portuguese forward accused the Catalan giants of getting favourable decisions from the referee after Gonzalo Higuain's effort was ruled out.

Real Madrid attacker Cristiano Ronaldo believes that Barcelona are a great team but complained they have favourable forces working in their favour.

The capital club were knocked out of the Champions League semi-final by their arch-rivals 3-1 on aggregate after the 1-1 second-leg stalemate at Camp Nou on Tuesday evening.

Barca's 2-0 triumph in the first-leg last week at the Bernabeu was fraught with controversy as Pepe and Jose Mourinho were both sent off.

Madrid also had a Gonzalo Higuain goal disallowed tonight, with Ronaldo insisting that it is not just Barcelona’s class that makes them win matches with ease.

"This was Mission Impossible IV," Ronaldo told reporters after the match. “We knew that this was going to happen. We're used to living with these things. They took away our chance to reach the final in the first-leg at the Bernabeu. Here, no, here it was just the same thing.

"There are lots of things together. What happened at the Bernabeu, what happened today, these are things to think about. Barcelona have a great team but there's something behind it. It was hard to play with 10-men after our red card against Barcelona, and it was hard to play with the goal disallowed today.

"[Gerard] Pique touched me and I fell on to [Javier] Mascherano. He wasn't like this at Liverpool: he learned the cheats of Barcelona.

"The dressing room is extremely sad," Ronaldo added. "It's very difficult to play with these setbacks." 

[El Capitano]

I've lost all respect for Javier Mascherano after this mornings game.

He was tough as nails in the EPL. Now he makes Nani look like the man of steel.

[Chade]

whatever the case this would have made things very interesting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lX6tu9Wjbs

Furious Cristiano Ronaldo: Barcelona taught Javier Mascherano how to cheat

Oh, the irony. Ronaldo goes down like Pique hit him with a baseball bat for the "just in case" foul, in doing so accidentally clips Mascherano's legs who was never going to reach Higuain and gratefully accepted the opportunity to make it look like he'd been shot...