SSF - 2011

[Mrs Red]

How many other clubs out there think this years state of SSF comp is an absolute shambles? This week will be the second round and still no fixtures for the season. It's getting beyond ridiculous!

[Steve#4]

Yep......My first year and feel like the boys are an after thought to the FFSA.

In saying that the club has been pretty good where the boys are concerned.

[Željko Jurin]

I don't think it is going to get any better too soon, I hear the bloke doing the juniors has 'walked'.....

[gooner14]

My first go as a team manager for a SSF team and I have to say that it's an absolute shambles. FFSA staff should hang their head in shame. Clubs and parents pay for their services and they have let the kids down big time!!

[Green_Manalishi]

I don't think it is going to get any better too soon, I hear the bloke doing the juniors has 'walked'.....

Given the mess things are in at the moment and the feeling out there in football land, I can't imagine anyone wanting the job. I'm glad I didn't put my application in.

[Bomber]

Fancy changing things so often, then telling clubs to work out there own fixture times amongst themselves. And people wonder why there were talks of breakaway leagues. Farce is not even a strong enough word.

[Ginger Pele]

I don't think it is going to get any better too soon, I hear the bloke doing the juniors has 'walked'.....

Fancy another game again in a couple of weeks

[Steve#4]

I don't think it is going to get any better too soon, I hear the bloke doing the juniors has 'walked'.....

Given the mess things are in at the moment and the feeling out there in football land, I can't imagine anyone wanting the job. I'm glad I didn't put my application in.

For me the expectations aren't that high, just some form of organisation...A trained monkey would suffice.

It really isn't that hard......I think some portray it worse than it is.

[Željko Jurin]

I don't think it is going to get any better too soon, I hear the bloke doing the juniors has 'walked'.....

Given the mess things are in at the moment and the feeling out there in football land, I can't imagine anyone wanting the job. I'm glad I didn't put my application in.

For me the expectations aren't that high, just some form of organisation...A trained monkey would suffice.

It really isn't that hard......I think some portray it worse than it is.

Agree, mix the zones up a bit so there isn't 3 AC or 4 Cumberlands in the one zone, and spit out a fixture !!
And make sure no u8 / u9 games are at the same time, and no u10 / u11 are either ...

[Mrs Red]

I hear the bloke doing the juniors has 'walked'.....

He was still emailing at 4.30pm this afternoon from FFSA???

[Killa Pass]

I hear the bloke doing the juniors has 'walked'.....

He was still emailing at 4.30pm this afternoon from FFSA???

Well stop emailing just give us some fixtures ??

Wonder how much they are paying...

Zelk put the fixtures together you seem to have heaps of time on your hand and know how everything done. Go for it sell back to FFSA i will take a small commis Heini will do

[Purger]

no problems with E&D
(joke with ZJ)

[Željko Jurin]

no problems with E&D
(joke with ZJ)

I have said it before, e&d seems a well run competition, doesnt mean I agree with their philosophies and principles though

Speaking about e&d, ALOT of pro-e&d have been VERY quiet last few months ..... ??

Have they 'jumped ship' or moved on ??

[zackadacka]

no problems with E&D
(joke with ZJ)

I have said it before, e&d seems a well run competition, doesnt mean I agree with their philosophies and principles though

Speaking about e&d, ALOT of pro-e&d have been VERY quiet last few months ..... ??

Have they 'jumped ship' or moved on ??

No, just silently laughing at the shambles SSF has become. We are content, simple as that.

[Big Mac]

no problems with E&D
(joke with ZJ)

I have said it before, e&d seems a well run competition, doesnt mean I agree with their philosophies and principles though

Speaking about e&d, ALOT of pro-e&d have been VERY quiet last few months ..... ??

Have they 'jumped ship' or moved on ??

Whether people believe in E&D philosophies or not is their choice, but one thing they no how to do is run things properly (which they have been doing for 40+ years).
It wasn't too many years back that the FFSA didn't really care about Juniors, E&D back then were providing the best "Association" run football by a mile.
At least they are still providing an alternative for those that choose that path.

[Purger]

Who chooses those paths? Parents or kids? The kids don't really care about that, do they?

I do feel I can comment unbiasedly as I have a foot in both camps. I'm not overly fussed with which association my boys play in but I do care that they enjoy themselves and that they have good quality coaches.

Neither E&D nor the FFSA can gaurentee both!

[Stitch This]

No, just silently laughing at the shambles SSF has become. We are content, simple as that.

But it's not SSF per se, but the organisation of the actual comp innit?

[Big Mac]

Who chooses those paths? Parents or kids? The kids don't really care about that, do they?

I do feel I can comment unbiasedly as I have a foot in both camps. I'm not overly fussed with which association my boys play in but I do care that they enjoy themselves and that they have good quality coaches.

Neither E&D nor the FFSA can gaurentee both!

I think mostly the Kids decide if, and when they make the move. I left it up to my Kids.

[Iamthelaw]

I hear the bloke doing the juniors has 'walked'.....

He was still emailing at 4.30pm this afternoon from FFSA???

Just got an email from the Junior Comp Co-ordinator stating he had resigned... so official... No fixtures, no times, no co-ordination. Upper 'management' shoud go also given they are, or should be, accountable for this.

[Purger]

Is this a full time pos?

While I don't know the ins and outs of this position, surely someone with a bit of football knowledge and excel background could organize this?

Regardless, not a good look on the governing body.

Where do I apply?

[Green_Manalishi]

.........surely someone with a bit of football knowledge and excel background could organize this?.......

Where do I apply?

Do you have a degree in political science?

[Purger]

.........surely someone with a bit of football knowledge and excel background could organize this?.......

Where do I apply?

Do you have a degree in political science?

I was simply referring to the organisation of a fixture list. Don't understand where the politics come into it.

[Bomber]

Wooosh!!!

[Soap Box]

Is this a full time pos?

While I don't know the ins and outs of this position, surely someone with a bit of football knowledge and excel background could organize this?

Regardless, not a good look on the governing body.

Where do I apply?

have heard the pay is pretty low maybe around $35K, so not well paid for the amount of hours staff have to put in at the FFSA.

[Mrs Red]

No, just silently laughing at the shambles SSF has become. We are content, simple as that.

SSF is simply a format of how football is played by children. Administering a competition or lack there of has nothing to do with SSF. People administer the competition and it has been the people that have not done their job for whatever reason not SSF.

It is probably more the lack of understanding of the importance of a competition for the under 6 - 11 age group by the administrators.

[Ginger Pele]

No, just silently laughing at the shambles SSF has become. We are content, simple as that.

SSF is simply a format of how football is played by children. Administering a competition or lack there of has nothing to do with SSF. People administer the competition and it has been the people that have not done their job for whatever reason not SSF.

It is probably more the lack of understanding of the importance of a competition for the under 6 - 11 age group by the administrators.

Well said Mrs Red

[Supersub]

no problems with E&D
(joke with ZJ)

I have said it before, e&d seems a well run competition, doesnt mean I agree with their philosophies and principles though

Speaking about e&d, ALOT of pro-e&d have been VERY quiet last few months ..... ??

Have they 'jumped ship' or moved on ??

No, just silently laughing at the shambles SSF has become. We are content, simple as that.

Yep happy with E&D here too. We even have our results and tables every Sunday night.

[Ginger Pele]

I'm glad your happy

[Purger]

No, just silently laughing at the shambles SSF has become. We are content, simple as that.

SSF is simply a format of how football is played by children. Administering a competition or lack there of has nothing to do with SSF. People administer the competition and it has been the people that have not done their job for whatever reason not SSF.

It is probably more the lack of understanding of the importance of a competition for the under 6 - 11 age group by the administrators.

Well said Mrs Red

+1

opening post was about the actual organisation of the comp.

[zackadacka]

+1

opening post was about the actual organisation of the comp.

Sorry, I was misunderstood. I do very much like the idea of SSG, that's why I use them at training with my lads.

I have always contended that SSF would be impossible to coordinate, however, as the 'leader' concept is very difficult in reality to achieve, as very experienced coaches should be the ones carrying this out (in reality, willing, but inexperienced coaches are the leaders). I do not believe it is feasible to undertake a pseudo-game/training session, it tends to just confuse the kids. Just my opinion, of course, but when you complained about coordination, this is what I thought you meant!

Also, the post I was responding to was regarding not hearing from E&D people, so I gave my very brief two cents worth.

Hope this clears things up!!!