Barnett- All Blame on FFSA Re:Lady Reds-he has no mirrors?

[Red-4-Life]

Good work Red, I think J Depp's idea has potential ?

Yeah it could definitely get somewhere. Obviously a group of fans would need enough money to run the team and it would be about $100k i think from what the papers have said on how much the Lady Reds were setting the owners back.

Things that would need to be considered are:

The Lady Reds from my understanding dont get paid, would you start paying them?
A new coach is a must, and how much should they earn?
Re-sign some players, get some new players, release some players - refresh/rebuild the squad and push for top 4
Training venue + facilities
Sponsorship

[Caretaker Coach]

If there was no sponsor on board,would the players be prepared to finance their own travelling expenses ? This might encourage All the players to be totally committed to the cause,if they have to pay for it themselves. They are all great kids, but I know some of them are working their butts of,even putting in extra training,while there are a few who,train hard,but also like a good night out. All players would have to commit 100% from pre season until the end of the W League season. You can still organise the occasional night out,eg Fasta Pasta,Movies etc,good for team building,for players and coaching staff only,not parents and / or friends.It would be compulsory to be in a casual uniform when together as a team.
I could keep going,this is the sort of thing that starts to bring a more professional approach,affects the way they play.
Would the club help if all they had to pay was the fees to FFA ( Match officials,regos,insurance ) and Coach's expenses ( not wage )
Would the team be eligible for some kind of Sporting grant ?

Come back to my original question,what would the players be prepared to do to keep the team going ?
We seem to be in an era at the moment,where young people today want everything laid out for them,and still complain. By players contributing,gives then some kind of ownership of the team,makes them feel more accountable,and more responsible.

[The General]

Good Luck.

[johnydep]

If there was no sponsor on board,would the players be prepared to finance their own traveling expenses ? ...........

Travel expenses would create uncertainty of player availability from week to week, cause personal financial stress that would not be fair to players and affect their playing ability.

There are a number of options to keep the Lady Reds operational:

• FFSA funded and run
  Volunteer board (as most local clubs have)
  Ebbsfleet United model http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebbsfleet_United_F.C.
  A Cooperative http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative

Which ever system is used, the team must be run as a club and business. It would be many years before the club could come close to breaking even on costs, so I reckon the best option would be a cooperative, with stake holders from Adelaide United, FFA, FFSA, business, local government and supporters.

A lot of volunteers would be required for many jobs, especially in the beginning; lawyers to help draw up contracts, business people to start a business plan, a constitution, etc.

Not every job can have a volunteer, some positions will have to be paid positions, either fully or partially to cover expenses.

There's lots to it but it is possible if enough people put their hand up. I also think that if the right people are involved there would be a lot of interest form the community, there are people that want to help and be part of a football (soccer) club that they can have a say and vote to be truly part of the club.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative

[courtz]

Good work Red, I think J Depp's idea has potential ?

Yeah it could definitely get somewhere. Obviously a group of fans would need enough money to run the team and it would be about $100k i think from what the papers have said on how much the Lady Reds were setting the owners back.

Things that would need to be considered are:

The Lady Reds from my understanding dont get paid, would you start paying them?
A new coach is a must, and how much should they earn?
Re-sign some players, get some new players, release some players - refresh/rebuild the squad and push for top 4
Training venue + facilities
Sponsorship

haha yeah right. i think ul find whilst most people support the girls, you wont get a cent of their cash to get them playing more losing games.

[Red-4-Life]

Good work Red, I think J Depp's idea has potential ?

Yeah it could definitely get somewhere. Obviously a group of fans would need enough money to run the team and it would be about $100k i think from what the papers have said on how much the Lady Reds were setting the owners back.

Things that would need to be considered are:

The Lady Reds from my understanding dont get paid, would you start paying them?
A new coach is a must, and how much should they earn?
Re-sign some players, get some new players, release some players - refresh/rebuild the squad and push for top 4
Training venue + facilities
Sponsorship

haha yeah right. i think ul find whilst most people support the girls, you wont get a cent of their cash to get them playing more losing games.

1. You get people who ARE willing to and are well off
2. You invest to IMPROVE the team so they start to win...such as get a new frikken coach in

[johnydep]

haha yeah right. i think ul find whilst most people support the girls, you wont get a cent of their cash to get them playing more losing games.

Never say die!

[F.O.F.A.]

Some very interesting comments here.
I have to add my little opinion here after trying to promote women in the sport on tv since 2004.
Yes we have many talented players....and some highly talented. Ive seen it myself and filmed it. And many of them are young go-getting women that have balls.....sorry but thats the only way I can describe their tenacity and enthusiasm t6o play football.
Yes it is the coaching and most certainly the deficit of financial backing in the sport.
I would guarantee that we would improve if we had someone well lets just say like Robbie Hooker who has been involved in young matildas and baby matildas as a coach. its just his approach his player communication, his passion to see the game progress....its plainly obvious.
We need to develop our own coaches too...
For many years I have always said why cant we get government grants and why not set up a coaching college and officials college....to produce good quality coaches and referees for our future.
It all goes back to who is driving the vehicle.....if you have someone who really has the passion determination hunger knowledge knowhow experience and most of enthusiasm to grow the womens game....it will grow!
Unfortunately we as always have way too many passengers and not enough drivers to do this...
I have seen so many talented women playing football and if given the opportunity time and resources I know could excell and start to give our interstate counterparts a run for their money.
But its getting the money to start that ball rolling to call in the best...yes THE BEST in all areas and you will start to see the difference.

I believe in the womens game and will always support and try to promote iot wherever I can... thats a given! Just need lots of others to do the same.

Yours thoughts...

[pvfc]

Noticed this in another topic;

I spoke to Rini (Coolen) casually at SAP training the day after the end of season Elite Academy BBQ, and he was passionate about where the future potential lies and how to develop it, and how FFSA, SASI AUFC, and others need to work together.

Many of us have said exactly the same thing about womens football - pity this philosophy only seems to be applied to the boys development and not the girls when it should be applied to both

[one nil]

Noticed this in another topic;

I spoke to Rini (Coolen) casually at SAP training the day after the end of season Elite Academy BBQ, and he was passionate about where the future potential lies and how to develop it, and how FFSA, SASI AUFC, and others need to work together.

Many of us have said exactly the same thing about womens football - pity this philosophy only seems to be applied to the boys development and not the girls when it should be applied to both

Like it or not, its not upto Adelaide utd to develop the womens game in SA.

[Red-4-Life]

Noticed this in another topic;

I spoke to Rini (Coolen) casually at SAP training the day after the end of season Elite Academy BBQ, and he was passionate about where the future potential lies and how to develop it, and how FFSA, SASI AUFC, and others need to work together.

Many of us have said exactly the same thing about womens football - pity this philosophy only seems to be applied to the boys development and not the girls when it should be applied to both

Like it or not, its not upto Adelaide utd to develop the womens game in SA.

Not its not but without an Adel Utd womens team it certaintly stops our talented womens plays being exposed to national team selections and really, thats what most of these girls are going for.

[Caretaker Coach]

Some very interesting comments here.
I have to add my little opinion here after trying to promote women in the sport on tv since 2004.
Yes we have many talented players....and some highly talented. Ive seen it myself and filmed it. And many of them are young go-getting women that have balls.....sorry but thats the only way I can describe their tenacity and enthusiasm t6o play football.
Yes it is the coaching and most certainly the deficit of financial backing in the sport.
I would guarantee that we would improve if we had someone well lets just say like Robbie Hooker who has been involved in young matildas and baby matildas as a coach. its just his approach his player communication, his passion to see the game progress....its plainly obvious.
We need to develop our own coaches too...
For many years I have always said why cant we get government grants and why not set up a coaching college and officials college....to produce good quality coaches and referees for our future.
It all goes back to who is driving the vehicle.....if you have someone who really has the passion determination hunger knowledge knowhow experience and most of enthusiasm to grow the womens game....it will grow!
Unfortunately we as always have way too many passengers and not enough drivers to do this...
I have seen so many talented women playing football and if given the opportunity time and resources I know could excell and start to give our interstate counterparts a run for their money.
But its getting the money to start that ball rolling to call in the best...yes THE BEST in all areas and you will start to see the difference.

I believe in the womens game and will always support and try to promote iot wherever I can... thats a given! Just need lots of others to do the same.

Yours thoughts...

You can have the best in most areas,but if you add a Big Banana coach,who would be driving the bus as you call it,you will be continually going around the roundabout. Just not all about winning, but it helps - if anyone else has read Mia Hamms book,she talks about when the USA won the World Cup for the first time,and they arrived back in the States with the trophy,apart from family and friends,there was no one else there to greet them at the airport - Lady Reds get more to their games then what turned out that day. She mentioned that it made them realise that they had a lot of work to do to promote the sport in the USA,but at least being World Champions gave them a powerful tool to help them do that.

[Old Master]

What is needed is for all the clubs, coaches and FFSA officials to get together for a full-day meeting where they can thrash out the problems with administration, club needs, representative needs, and player needs and then go back to their clubs and groups and discuss it with them.
When they've done that come together again and make some proposals and discuss them and then DECIDE what is the best way forward for everyone.

Some of the obvious points to sort out are:

1, Where is the game going?
2, What is needed to improve things?
3, Do we want a National League Team for players to aspire to?
4,How do we best ensure that players and coaches can progress smoothly through the levels?
5,What is more important - the players and clubs or the FFSA?