2011 FFA National Fustal Championships

[Željko Jurin]

Correct,

So my point is that Futsal in SA must be done differently and taken more seriously (as it's been the same for so many years and nothing has changed, competition wise and representative wise) to give these kids and coaches that are selected a greater opportunity to be able to compete at a higher standard...

Yes, there were other games that were much closer, but still didn't have that 'extra' to help get them over the line.
That 'extra' has to come from the people who run the game in SA....

If NSW don't have Futsal all year round, then why is the 'gap' so big ???

And it isn't the talent pool that we chose from, because SASI proved that theory wrong the last 2 years.....

[Big Mac]

Ok then. Where were the talented lads then. If they were so much better than the U12 team that were selected, why no show? It cant just be about the money, right? Come on then, was last year a better result was it, or the year before? Sick and tired of people on this forum putting other kids down. How dare you? Honestly, those boys gave 100% in every game and it's also interesting how the only game commmented on was the 15-0. There were other games played as you were aware. Also, I would agree that teams should be selected earlier and also more training time, but lets not start putting the kids down that were selected by saying better players didn't come out, that's just a cheap shot and slap in the face to the kids that did proudly represent SA and they were a very talented group, same as previous years. I'm not going to comment on other State players, but I will say because I was there, our boys were professional and respectful in every game. Well done Mario Boffa and boys.

No-one was knocking the boys that partipated from SA, but there is an obvious gap to the Eastern States.
We were just questioning why.
I ask you this...there were at least 3 boys who participated in that team last year (U12), were eligible for
U12 again this year, are all members of AU elite academy, and for various reasons didn't trial this year.
For others, yes cost was an issue, I know that for FACT, others just didn't know about the trials!

[tasy]

Oh your kidding right!!!! Now your trying to tell me that 3 elite players were going to make the difference, how do you know that? Do you know any of this years players. I'm certainly not knocking any of the 3 players, nor do I know who they are, but I think you need to respect the fact this team was selected by a coach who is more than capable of selecting a State futsal team. I'm not really sure why it is necessary to name drop "elite squad". Why is there such an emphasis on "elite squad" players anyway, does that mean all the other talented players don't have a right to trial or be successful in selections if they are not from a "squad". From what I have seen there are MANY players who are elite standard, so I ask you, why are they not in a squad, and you talk about bias.

[dinozoff]

He asked why they where not asked to try out not why the didn't get picked Some people on this forum het way to excited

[tasy]

No actually, he didn't. And why should they be asked. The trials were open to everyone and were on the FFSA website for all to see, if they wanted to trial there was no stopping them. I wont wait for my son to be asked, if he wants to play he can trial like everyone else. Go straight to the top if you all feel so strongly with your concerns. Clearly that's the issue, so leave the kids of out it as previously stated. It is pointless commenting on players when you have no idea about any of the kids that were on the team.

[Big Mac]

Ok then. Where were the talented lads then. If they were so much better than the U12 team that were selected, why no show? It cant just be about the money, right? Come on then, was last year a better result was it, or the year before? Sick and tired of people on this forum putting other kids down. How dare you? Honestly, those boys gave 100% in every game and it's also interesting how the only game commmented on was the 15-0. There were other games played as you were aware. Also, I would agree that teams should be selected earlier and also more training time, but lets not start putting the kids down that were selected by saying better players didn't come out, that's just a cheap shot and slap in the face to the kids that did proudly represent SA and they were a very talented group, same as previous years. I'm not going to comment on other State players, but I will say because I was there, our boys were professional and respectful in every game. Well done Mario Boffa and boys.

I think the U12 results were credible apart from the 15-0 loss.
I asked questions about, late preparation, some boys not trialling, cost, a superstar opposition player.
Where did I criticize the players or Coach?
3/4 of last years U12 were eligible again for U12's this year, how many of them trialled this year?, a fair question (without malice).

[tasy]

Well all those insinuations do point to players and coach, how can they not, asking why some boys didn’t trial interprets better kids didn’t turn up. But I will ask again, if the results from previous years including this year have been the same, why would it matter whether or not those boys turned up? If the issue is the success of Futsal, then shouldn’t we be focusing on that instead of raising why certain players didn’t trial. I think SA’s score line at the competition deters players from returning, the only way this can change is if the juniors practice more and are confident when entering the competition. I was also told some juniors didn’t want to trial because they know SA don’t win and are beaten nearly every year. So, with this attitude how can we move forward.

[Big Mac]

Well all those insinuations do point to players and coach, how can they not, asking why some boys didn’t trial interprets better kids didn’t turn up. But I will ask again, if the results from previous years including this year have been the same, why would it matter whether or not those boys turned up? If the issue is the success of Futsal, then shouldn’t we be focusing on that instead of raising why certain players didn’t trial. I think SA’s score line at the competition deters players from returning, the only way this can change is if the juniors practice more and are confident when entering the competition. I was also told some juniors didn’t want to trial because they know SA don’t win and are beaten nearly every year. So, with this attitude how can we move forward.

You just answered some of the questions I was asking
Good luck to the boys I'm sure they represented SA with class.

[Željko Jurin]

.......the only way this can change is if the juniors practice more and are confident when entering the competition. I was also told some juniors didn’t want to trial because they know SA don’t win and are beaten nearly every year. So, with this attitude how can we move forward.

Bingo !!

There needs to be 'something' for the kids, all kids that play futsal, to be able to improve better and quicker...

[tasy]

I just hope this year trials commence early and all teams have ample time to train. But they certainly don't have to be part of a squad to be successful.

[Juventus FC]

I think Futsal SA should fund for the Australian National coach to come down and do some trainings and some lessons with the coaches. The Australian Coach spoke to the Senior team for about an hr after 1 of the games and i learnt more in that hr then i have in the 3 times ive been over there. Most of what he taught us was basic but just putting it in effect and showing us what the Eastern states do can really help to close the gap.

[johnydep]

.......the only way this can change is if the juniors practice more and are confident when entering the competition. I was also told some juniors didn’t want to trial because they know SA don’t win and are beaten nearly every year. So, with this attitude how can we move forward.

Bingo !!

There needs to be 'something' for the kids, all kids that play futsal, to be able to improve better and quicker...

It was my sons second year at the Nats. He enjoyed them immensely, after the first one he told me (didn't ask) that he's going to the next one. So I filled out the forms for both my kids and waited, I received phone call giving me 2 or 3 days notice of a trial session for one of my kids.

He wants to go again for the next one, but unless things change (which I wont discuss here other than to say that it's only minor changes required) I wont be sending him for a third time.

For those that get the chance - GO. It is an excellent opportunity which helps build character and independence. The organisation is second to none, the cost is more than reasonable when you consider other State teams are paying close to double.

I would like to see the FFSA use the Futsal SA model, with the use of sponsors to help keep costs down, and the excellent presentation dinner and player gear supplied.

Good luck to Futsal SA for Season 2011/12

[GK1]

I think Futsal SA should fund for the Australian National coach to come down and do some trainings and some lessons with the coaches. The Australian Coach spoke to the Senior team for about an hr after 1 of the games and i learnt more in that hr then i have in the 3 times ive been over there. Most of what he taught us was basic but just putting it in effect and showing us what the Eastern states do can really help to close the gap.

Agree 100% we should definitely get Knighty to come down and help us out. He bought up some very good points while talking to us. In the 4 days I was in Sydney on camp I learnt a lot of new things about the game that I have started to apply to my game and it does make a difference. Some of the players tried to apply the things explained to us. Whether it worked or not they did say it made a difference to their game.

If he was to come over I hope that coaches do take on board what he has to say because he won a nationals in 2010 with a mediocre side. He also bought up the point that 8-10 weeks is enough time to prepare for a tournament like the Nationals as long as there is a proper training schedule in place that includes strong fitness and tactics components, technical ability should be there when coaching at state level. Australia also won the ASEAN qualifiers for the Asian Cup with a 4 week preparation and went through undefeated. The open men's team (which is the team I was in) are hoping that Knighty can take a training session or two next year before we go away next January.

This would probably be one of the best investments made by Futsal SA and the FFSA in terms of game development in SA.

[johnydep]

I think Futsal SA should fund for the Australian National coach to come down and do some trainings and some lessons with the coaches. The Australian Coach spoke to the Senior team for about an hr after 1 of the games and i learnt more in that hr then i have in the 3 times ive been over there. Most of what he taught us was basic but just putting it in effect and showing us what the Eastern states do can really help to close the gap.

Agree 100% we should definitely get Knighty to come down and help us out. He bought up some very good points while talking to us. In the 4 days I was in Sydney on camp I learnt a lot of new things about the game that I have started to apply to my game and it does make a difference. Some of the players tried to apply the things explained to us. Whether it worked or not they did say it made a difference to their game.

If he was to come over I hope that coaches do take on board what he has to say because he won a nationals in 2010 with a mediocre side. He also bought up the point that 8-10 weeks is enough time to prepare for a tournament like the Nationals as long as there is a proper training schedule in place that includes strong fitness and tactics components, technical ability should be there when coaching at state level. Australia also won the ASEAN qualifiers for the Asian Cup with a 4 week preparation and went through undefeated. The open men's team (which is the team I was in) are hoping that Knighty can take a training session or two next year before we go away next January.

This would probably be one of the best investments made by Futsal SA and the FFSA in terms of game development in SA.

Well said, hopefully changes are already in the pipe line. This needs to be done soon, so that people can see what's happening in time to decide whether to be involved again.