russia + qatar

[Woohafkaf Car]

just in case people think there's no corruption at fifa.

I have no problem with Russia hosting it, but Qatar is a fuçking joke. No country who has never qualified for the tournament should be allowed to host it at the expense of one who has.

Why?

Countries should be doing their business on the park first.

[Stitch This]

Countries should be doing their business on the park first.

That sounds more like something the NRL would do.

[zackadacka]

Countries should be doing their business on the park first.

That sounds more like something the NRL would do.

[GATE13]

The TV coverage is going to be pretty boring at Qatar as well.
There'll be no cameras panning the crowd looking for the sexily/revealingly dressed women in the stands. They'll all have to dress "modestly" (meaning covered from head to foot) and be "restrained" (meaning no jumping up and down cheering like crazy") in their support - that's if they will even be allowed in the stadium!
Women will certainly be restricted in alcohol consumption and will always have to be in the company of their father, brother or husband.
No public displays of affection will be allowed either, that means kissing and hugging in the stands will be outlawed.
Plus there'll be no drunk fans livening things up either as alcohol will be severely restricted, with "offenders" suffering dire consequences including imprisonment for up to 10 years for "public disorder".
BAD MOVE FIFA!

Don't get me wrong, I don't think Qatar should have got it, BUT, I think all the points above by yourself and alot of others are very naive, 'western' thinkings.
What do I mean......

The world is not all western, run by western cultures and traditions, (eg) alcohol consumption, kissing in public, women at games etc

Yes, foreign supporters will go and support their teams, but majority of supporters will be locals from neighboring countries, hence all abide by theses same laws in their countries, so it's the 'norm' to the Arab world.
Just like the majority of spectators were from Africa in South Africa, majority of spectators in 2022 will be from the Middle East.

Getting smashed watching any sporting event, or having 10 beers while you watch a piece of meat cook on the BBQ is not the 'norm' to them, which is just a normal part of life to us

Alot of people need to realize that OUR way of life is not how the whole world lives, we need to learn to respect other cultures and beliefs, just like they should in our countries !

Like I always say

Although I wholeheartedly agree with you, what is going to difficult is a majority are not going to think like you. Being European myself, I can assure you Europeans will go there expecting to drink etc. There will be huge cultural clashes during the event, as I'm sure neither side will want to be more understanding of the other. For example, I'm sure the English will refuse to not get drunk and rowdy at the event, and I'm sure the Qatar authorities are not willing to turn a blind eye to that. I agree that the world is not western minded, but the world is also not Muslim minded. Compromises will have to be made if it is to be a successful and peaceful world cup, and some ideological differences to be abolished.

EXACTLY RIGHT! The whole may not be western minded but the world is also not muslim minded - Just as the "westerners' dont force the muslims to live a certain way then the opposite should apply also! The World Cup is called the WORLD cup for a reason and the traditions, beliefs and actions/behaviour of westerners should not be MADE to change just because of the place that the event is held.

If they cant accept and live with that then they should of have never applied to get the event in the first place.

[rooboy1986]

There are already whispers of moving the 2022 to January - this would negate the need for "Airconditioned" fan zones and stadiums etc.

I'm sure these things were discussed prior to bid decision, hence FIFA Exco new something we didn't...

[Hawkseys Double]

There are already whispers of moving the 2022 to January - this would negate the need for "Airconditioned" fan zones and stadiums etc.

I'm sure these things were discussed prior to bid decision, hence FIFA Exco new something we didn't...

Not possible, it would interfere with to many local seasons.

[Work Experience Kid]

I won't be russian to attend any of the games, qatarsphoric in all fairness.

[Grammar Nazi]

I won't be russian to attend any of the games, qatarsphoric in all fairness.

**catastrophic