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Cyril is refferring to Palacios though I reckon
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COLOSSUS wrote:Let me guess, ive got no balls
Bollocks!!The Kop wrote:instinct.
Kitchimo wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... -goal.html
On what basis was he the worst world cup referee. Surely you are not going to judge him on one mistake in one game are you.COLOSSUS wrote:Kitchimo wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... -goal.html![]()
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As if u would post an article written by a Mr GP who would unarguably be the World Cups worst ever referee. Thats like asking George W Bush to give you an unbiased and fair opinion of why the coalition of the willing went into Iraq
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Not even going to bother reading it but i could just imagine the bollocks he has written. Let me guess, something along the lines of a certain keeper being to blame rather than the referee???![]()
For me, its got nothing to do with whether it affected the outcome (though that would of made it all the worse for the Clatter) but rather how inept our officials have become in this day and age. We used to complain about primadonna players and their hairstyles but me thinks the referees have taken over that title and quite comfortably. You know there is something seriously wrong with the game when we are talking more about incidences involving referees week in and week out rather than ones involving the players that actually play the game!!!Nice One Cyril wrote:Had it have been the match winning goal I might have a different outlook, however whilst Clattenburg mucked up by leaving it unclear, and Nani was a tad unsporting, at the end of the day we were never going to score in a month of Sundays and I'm reasonably happy that Kaboul didn't get sent off.
I can guarantee that Nani won't be popular on the return leg at WHL. Hope he's got private health cover.
nothing to do with every game having about 10 camera angles and slow motion replays. Remember refs see the incident once from one angle and full speed. Clattenburg should have given the free kick to spurs but the facts are simple he didn't. PLAY ON!COLOSSUS wrote:For me, its got nothing to do with whether it affected the outcome (though that would of made it all the worse for the Clatter) but rather how inept our officials have become in this day and age. We used to complain about primadonna players and their hairstyles but me thinks the referees have taken over that title and quite comfortably. You know there is something seriously wrong with the game when we are talking more about incidences involving referees week in and week out rather than ones involving the players that actually play the game!!!Nice One Cyril wrote:Had it have been the match winning goal I might have a different outlook, however whilst Clattenburg mucked up by leaving it unclear, and Nani was a tad unsporting, at the end of the day we were never going to score in a month of Sundays and I'm reasonably happy that Kaboul didn't get sent off.
I can guarantee that Nani won't be popular on the return leg at WHL. Hope he's got private health cover.
Not even a die hard Anglo sullivan like yourself could defend the Poll. You watch the Australia v Croatia WC match again, and tell me he made one mistake for that whole game???God is an Englishman wrote:On what basis was he the worst world cup referee. Surely you are not going to judge him on one mistake in one game are you.COLOSSUS wrote:Kitchimo wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... -goal.html![]()
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As if u would post an article written by a Mr GP who would unarguably be the World Cups worst ever referee. Thats like asking George W Bush to give you an unbiased and fair opinion of why the coalition of the willing went into Iraq
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Not even going to bother reading it but i could just imagine the bollocks he has written. Let me guess, something along the lines of a certain keeper being to blame rather than the referee???![]()
The keeper clearly is to blame anyway, yuo've coached a side what do you teach even kids. "PLAY THE shiraz WHISTLE".
So because he didnt give the "free kick" better known as a "penalty" inside the 18 yard box, he should also turn a blind eye to the most clear handball of the BPL so far this season and wave play on??? No wonder your a referee, youve got NFI just like the rest of themGod is an Englishman wrote:nothing to do with every game having about 10 camera angles and slow motion replays. Remember refs see the incident once from one angle and full speed. Clattenburg should have given the free kick to spurs but the facts are simple he didn't. PLAY ON!COLOSSUS wrote:For me, its got nothing to do with whether it affected the outcome (though that would of made it all the worse for the Clatter) but rather how inept our officials have become in this day and age. We used to complain about primadonna players and their hairstyles but me thinks the referees have taken over that title and quite comfortably. You know there is something seriously wrong with the game when we are talking more about incidences involving referees week in and week out rather than ones involving the players that actually play the game!!!Nice One Cyril wrote:Had it have been the match winning goal I might have a different outlook, however whilst Clattenburg mucked up by leaving it unclear, and Nani was a tad unsporting, at the end of the day we were never going to score in a month of Sundays and I'm reasonably happy that Kaboul didn't get sent off.
I can guarantee that Nani won't be popular on the return leg at WHL. Hope he's got private health cover.
Every ref throughout time has made mistakes, I can only recall one in that game. I'd like to only make one mistake in an entire game.COLOSSUS wrote:Not even a die hard Anglo sullivan like yourself could defend the Poll. You watch the Australia v Croatia WC match again, and tell me he made one mistake for that whole game???
Also, the keeper is NOT to blame, ive never coached kids, and what you say to your kids is your perrogative
I'll type slowly so you can understand it easier.COLOSSUS wrote:So because he didnt give the "free kick" better known as a "penalty" inside the 18 yard box, he should also turn a blind eye to the most clear handball of the BPL so far this season and wave play on??? No wonder your a referee, youve got NFI just like the rest of them![]()
You can only recall one in that game because you are a referee yourself and youd like to think that he only made 1 and thats typical of all you offcials. The game is all about you guys which is what the players have forgottenGod is an Englishman wrote:Every ref throughout time has made mistakes, I can only recall one in that game. I'd like to only make one mistake in an entire game.COLOSSUS wrote:Not even a die hard Anglo sullivan like yourself could defend the Poll. You watch the Australia v Croatia WC match again, and tell me he made one mistake for that whole game???
Also, the keeper is NOT to blame, ive never coached kids, and what you say to your kids is your perrogative
How is the keeper NOT to blame. The whistle is not blown and he throws the ball straight to Nani. PLAY THE WHISTLE!!
What's a "sullivan"? I presume it means exceptionally intelligent and handsome.
Before you got sacked (sorry asked to resign) for swearing at kids, did you not teach your players to play the whistle?
I can only recall one incident because I didn't really bother watching the game. Could you please list all the errors he made because I am so biased I won't be able to see any others.COLOSSUS wrote:You can only recall one in that game because you are a referee yourself and youd like to think that he only made 1 and thats typical of all you offcials. The game is all about you guys which is what the players have forgotten![]()
Watch the incident again, referee to blame in my eyes. Your a referee, and will side with the referees every single time, thats a common trait amongst inept offcicials![]()
Whats a Sullivan??? Have a look in the mirror and drop the tickets on yourself![]()
I wasnt asked to resign for swearing at any kids because i never coached any kids unless you classify 20 year olds as kids. More a case of a senior coach being paranoid about his job because i had brought the club a trophy in my 1st season whilst taking a team that finished bottom and 2nd bottom in its previous 2 seasons to mid table and to a Fed Cup title, whilst he had come back to the club that had sacked him 10 or 12 years earlier in a very messy break up and he was under immense pressure to prove his haters wrong (which was half the club) and i guess after he felt he was shafted at Raiders a few years back when a certain Reserves coach got his job after he was sacked, his paranoia set in with me at the helm of the Reserves at the club he was coaching for the last 5 or so years. Of course, you only have to ask the current President or whatever they call him thats in charge of the club and he will tell you like he told me (over the phone because he didnt have the balls to tell it to my face
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COLOSSUS wrote:Let me guess, ive got no balls
God is an Englishman wrote:I can only recall one incident because I didn't really bother watching the game. Could you please list all the errors he made because I am so biased I won't be able to see any others. Would be quicker if you went back and watched the replay, it would be much quicker than me trying to type it all out for yaCOLOSSUS wrote:You can only recall one in that game because you are a referee yourself and youd like to think that he only made 1 and thats typical of all you offcials. The game is all about you guys which is what the players have forgotten![]()
Watch the incident again, referee to blame in my eyes. Your a referee, and will side with the referees every single time, thats a common trait amongst inept offcicials![]()
Whats a Sullivan??? Have a look in the mirror and drop the tickets on yourself![]()
I wasnt asked to resign for swearing at any kids because i never coached any kids unless you classify 20 year olds as kids. More a case of a senior coach being paranoid about his job because i had brought the club a trophy in my 1st season whilst taking a team that finished bottom and 2nd bottom in its previous 2 seasons to mid table and to a Fed Cup title, whilst he had come back to the club that had sacked him 10 or 12 years earlier in a very messy break up and he was under immense pressure to prove his haters wrong (which was half the club) and i guess after he felt he was shafted at Raiders a few years back when a certain Reserves coach got his job after he was sacked, his paranoia set in with me at the helm of the Reserves at the club he was coaching for the last 5 or so years. Of course, you only have to ask the current President or whatever they call him thats in charge of the club and he will tell you like he told me (over the phone because he didnt have the balls to tell it to my face
) that it wasnt "working out" with me
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As for the gomez incident, the referee should have given the handball and spurs a free kick. However, it's not his fault that gomez throws the ball to Nani. PLAY THE WHISTLE!! So you agree that the most obvious handball of the BPL so far this season should of been awarded a free kick, this after but you believe that Gomez threw the ball to Nani???![]()
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So, I was right then a "sullivan" is someone who is intelligent and extremely good looking. Thank you very much for the compliment. I told you to first drop the tickets on yourself, then have a look. Obviously that was too hard for someone of your IQ and fair enough really, i shouldnt of expected much more![]()
Just because you haven't coached kids, doesn't mean you can't swear at them. Were under 20's never present at your games or were they banned from watching. You might have been sacked for swearing at them in the street for all I know, because never once has it been said that it was someone you were coaching. Well, i dont see how i swore at any kids if i wasnt coaching them??? :? Of course there were kids at games, not once did i swear at any and it would take a very brave (not to mention stupid) person from CCSC to even contemplate mentioning that to you or anyone else let alone to meSo Hawkeye, why would i be sacked for swearing at a kid in the street and why would i swear at a kid in the street and if i did, what would it have to do with a job of mine??? You seem to be going right off the track now. Are you trying to wiggle your way out of this one as well???
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Firstly buddy, go and fuck yourself and use the rock to beat some sense into youChaos wrote:Get back under your rock COL. And go back to your attorney to sort this out.![]()
Regardless of whatever the outcome, there was NO WHISTLE.......hence play on....
COLOSSUS wrote:God is an Englishman wrote:I can only recall one incident because I didn't really bother watching the game. Could you please list all the errors he made because I am so biased I won't be able to see any others. Would be quicker if you went back and watched the replay, it would be much quicker than me trying to type it all out for yaCOLOSSUS wrote:You can only recall one in that game because you are a referee yourself and youd like to think that he only made 1 and thats typical of all you offcials. The game is all about you guys which is what the players have forgotten![]()
Watch the incident again, referee to blame in my eyes. Your a referee, and will side with the referees every single time, thats a common trait amongst inept offcicials![]()
Whats a Sullivan??? Have a look in the mirror and drop the tickets on yourself![]()
I wasnt asked to resign for swearing at any kids because i never coached any kids unless you classify 20 year olds as kids. More a case of a senior coach being paranoid about his job because i had brought the club a trophy in my 1st season whilst taking a team that finished bottom and 2nd bottom in its previous 2 seasons to mid table and to a Fed Cup title, whilst he had come back to the club that had sacked him 10 or 12 years earlier in a very messy break up and he was under immense pressure to prove his haters wrong (which was half the club) and i guess after he felt he was shafted at Raiders a few years back when a certain Reserves coach got his job after he was sacked, his paranoia set in with me at the helm of the Reserves at the club he was coaching for the last 5 or so years. Of course, you only have to ask the current President or whatever they call him thats in charge of the club and he will tell you like he told me (over the phone because he didnt have the balls to tell it to my face
) that it wasnt "working out" with me
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So, basically, you can't do it as you can't remember them. You have no ability to back up what you are saying
As for the gomez incident, the referee should have given the handball and spurs a free kick. However, it's not his fault that gomez throws the ball to Nani. PLAY THE WHISTLE!! So you agree that the most obvious handball of the BPL so far this season should of been awarded a free kick, this after but you believe that Gomez threw the ball to Nani???![]()
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So, are you saying that Gomex didn't throw the ball out to Nani then. It's their on the screen for all to see. He throws the ball and it's right at Nani's feet.
So, I was right then a "sullivan" is someone who is intelligent and extremely good looking. Thank you very much for the compliment. I told you to first drop the tickets on yourself, then have a look. Obviously that was too hard for someone of your IQ and fair enough really, i shouldnt of expected much more![]()
I speak as I find, I looked again and still saw an extremely intelligent and attractive person. Are you unable to explain what a sullivan is then, is that why you keep throwing it back to me
Just because you haven't coached kids, doesn't mean you can't swear at them. Were under 20's never present at your games or were they banned from watching. You might have been sacked for swearing at them in the street for all I know, because never once has it been said that it was someone you were coaching. Well, i dont see how i swore at any kids if i wasnt coaching them??? :? Of course there were kids at games, not once did i swear at any and it would take a very brave (not to mention stupid) person from CCSC to even contemplate mentioning that to you or anyone else let alone to meSo Hawkeye, why would i be sacked for swearing at a kid in the street and why would i swear at a kid in the street and if i did, what would it have to do with a job of mine??? You seem to be going right off the track now. Are you trying to wiggle your way out of this one as well???
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Once again you are incorrect. The only way Clattenburg could be blamed for it, is if he did actually blow his whistle. Please go away and learn the laws of the game before you comment.COLOSSUS wrote:Firstly buddy, go and shiraz yourself and use the rock to beat some sense into youChaos wrote:Get back under your rock COL. And go back to your attorney to sort this out.![]()
Regardless of whatever the outcome, there was NO WHISTLE.......hence play on....![]()
2ndly, if the referee did not blow his whistle, then he is a bigger wanker than first thought, because he has then over ruled his linesman for an incident he never saw which his linesman did. How is that referee in a position to make a judgement about an incident he didnt see which his assistant and the rest of the world clearly did??? Play on my ass grenache breath, he shiraz up and you know it, its that simple
So now i swore at the bosses kid in the street??? Which street by the way out of curiosity and who was my boss exactly because at CCSC, there are plenty of bossesGod is an Englishman wrote: Simple really - if I was your boss and you swore my kid in the street, I'd sack you. Do you really believe you can't swear at kids unless you are coaching them?
COLOSSUS wrote:So now i swore at the bosses kid in the street??? Which street by the way out of curiosity and who was my boss exactly because at CCSC, there are plenty of bossesGod is an Englishman wrote: Simple really - if I was your boss and you swore my kid in the street, I'd sack you. Do you really believe you can't swear at kids unless you are coaching them?![]()
Your getting worse at your attempts Hawkeye
I think you need to understand the concept of common sense. So do the laws of the game state that if you as a referee do not see an incident and therefor not make a descision on one (because you arent in a position to do so since you havent seen the incident), you are then in a position to make an informed descision on what your assistant thought he did or didnt see??? Your a fucking clown and its no wonder you are a referee, but the simple truth is this, the Clatter didnt (dont ask me how but he didnt) see a handball and therefor allowed the goal initiually when it went in (although it must of seemed very strange to him when he saw Gomez roll the ball on the ground as if hew were taking a free kick or a goal kick with Nani in the direct vicinity) but then when he went over to his assistant who had signalled for an obvious handball (after that assistant worked out that indeed the ref didnt see the handball) he over ruled his assistant and allowed the goal to stand even though he could NOT have made an informed descision about the incident that his assistant alerted him to since he didnt never saw it by his own admission. That is the simple truth of the matter Hawkeye and you can view it any way you like but the fact of the matter is that you cannot fairly and sensibly over rule your assistant when you have been alerted to an incident by him that you never saw.God is an Englishman wrote: Once again you are incorrect. The only way Clattenburg could be blamed for it, is if he did actually blow his whistle. Please go away and learn the laws of the game before you comment.
Here's the answer for you. If a referee doesn't see an incident then he doesn't make a decision and he doesn't blow his whistle. If the referee doens't blow his whistle then game continues.COLOSSUS wrote:I think you need to understand the concept of common sense. So do the laws of the game state that if you as a referee do not see an incident and therefor not make a descision on one (because you arent in a position to do so since you havent seen the incident), you are then in a position to make an informed descision on what your assistant thought he did or didnt see??? Your a bottle of shiraz clown and its no wonder you are a referee, but the simple truth is this, the Clatter didnt (dont ask me how but he didnt) see a handball and therefor allowed the goal initiually when it went in (although it must of seemed very strange to him when he saw Gomez roll the ball on the ground as if hew were taking a free kick or a goal kick with Nani in the direct vicinity) but then when he went over to his assistant who had signalled for an obvious handball (after that assistant worked out that indeed the ref didnt see the handball) he over ruled his assistant and allowed the goal to stand even though he could NOT have made an informed descision about the incident that his assistant alerted him to since he didnt never saw it by his own admission. That is the simple truth of the matter Hawkeye and you can view it any way you like but the fact of the matter is that you cannot fairly and sensibly over rule your assistant when you have been alerted to an incident by him that you never saw.God is an Englishman wrote: Once again you are incorrect. The only way Clattenburg could be blamed for it, is if he did actually blow his whistle. Please go away and learn the laws of the game before you comment.
Its called hypocrisy. Its like a ref saying ill accept my linesmans word that a player was offside even though i as a ref believe he wasnt because i viewed the incident but because my linesman has a better view, ill give him the benefot of the doubt and then when an incident i didnt see happens and the linesman alerts me about it, i say nope shiraz it, i dont believe you and i give the goal instead of giving the free kick and giving the linesman the same benefit of the doubt ive given him all game for offsides and throwins that i have actually seen. bottle of shiraz hypocrisy Hawkeye and you know it just like you know the Clatter got it wrong
Well if thats not what your saying, then why bring it up??? compare the situation to how you believe it to be true, or is your truth just another big lie as i know it is??? Would you like me to start some bullshit about you and your kids??? Its very easy to do Hawkeye and im afraid you wont like it so just drop this latest charade or it will get personal and very very uglyGod is an Englishman wrote:COLOSSUS wrote:So now i swore at the bosses kid in the street??? Which street by the way out of curiosity and who was my boss exactly because at CCSC, there are plenty of bossesGod is an Englishman wrote: Simple really - if I was your boss and you swore my kid in the street, I'd sack you. Do you really believe you can't swear at kids unless you are coaching them?![]()
Your getting worse at your attempts Hawkeye
When did I say you swore at the bosses kid in the street?
And what about if his assistant sees it smart ass???God is an Englishman wrote:Here's the answer for you. If a referee doesn't see an incident then he doesn't make a decision and he doesn't blow his whistle. If the referee doens't blow his whistle then game continues.COLOSSUS wrote:I think you need to understand the concept of common sense. So do the laws of the game state that if you as a referee do not see an incident and therefor not make a descision on one (because you arent in a position to do so since you havent seen the incident), you are then in a position to make an informed descision on what your assistant thought he did or didnt see??? Your a bottle of shiraz clown and its no wonder you are a referee, but the simple truth is this, the Clatter didnt (dont ask me how but he didnt) see a handball and therefor allowed the goal initiually when it went in (although it must of seemed very strange to him when he saw Gomez roll the ball on the ground as if hew were taking a free kick or a goal kick with Nani in the direct vicinity) but then when he went over to his assistant who had signalled for an obvious handball (after that assistant worked out that indeed the ref didnt see the handball) he over ruled his assistant and allowed the goal to stand even though he could NOT have made an informed descision about the incident that his assistant alerted him to since he didnt never saw it by his own admission. That is the simple truth of the matter Hawkeye and you can view it any way you like but the fact of the matter is that you cannot fairly and sensibly over rule your assistant when you have been alerted to an incident by him that you never saw.God is an Englishman wrote: Once again you are incorrect. The only way Clattenburg could be blamed for it, is if he did actually blow his whistle. Please go away and learn the laws of the game before you comment.
Its called hypocrisy. Its like a ref saying ill accept my linesmans word that a player was offside even though i as a ref believe he wasnt because i viewed the incident but because my linesman has a better view, ill give him the benefot of the doubt and then when an incident i didnt see happens and the linesman alerts me about it, i say nope shiraz it, i dont believe you and i give the goal instead of giving the free kick and giving the linesman the same benefit of the doubt ive given him all game for offsides and throwins that i have actually seen. bottle of shiraz hypocrisy Hawkeye and you know it just like you know the Clatter got it wrong
So, in this example of the referee not blowing his whistle. If Gomez had done what every kid is taught when playing the game, and played to the whistle, and just booted the ball up field from his hands then Nani would not have scored. Gomes was the idiot who didn't play to the whistle.
You are the one who said that if you swore at a kid away from coaching them then you couldn't be sacked. I merely gave you an example of a situation where swearing at a kid in the street could get you sacked.COLOSSUS wrote:Well if thats not what your saying, then why bring it up??? compare the situation to how you believe it to be true, or is your truth just another big lie as i know it is??? Would you like me to start some Barossa Pearl about you and your kids??? Its very easy to do Hawkeye and im afraid you wont like it so just drop this latest charade or it will get personal and very very ugly
COLOSSUS wrote:And what about if his assistant sees it smart ass???
Randoman wrote:really should retitle this topic as Hawkesy v Colossus XXI
COLOSSUS wrote:Firstly buddy, go and shiraz yourself and use the rock to beat some sense into youChaos wrote:Get back under your rock COL. And go back to your attorney to sort this out.![]()
Regardless of whatever the outcome, there was NO WHISTLE.......hence play on....![]()
2ndly, if the referee did not blow his whistle, then he is a bigger wanker than first thought, because he has then over ruled his linesman for an incident he never saw which his linesman did. How is that referee in a position to make a judgement about an incident he didnt see which his assistant and the rest of the world clearly did??? Play on my ass grenache breath, he shiraz up and you know it, its that simple
COLOSSUS wrote:Let me guess, ive got no balls