FFSA Elite program for u/10 and u/11

[Arthur Shandy]

sorry don't mean to sound rude but this is the kind of narrow mindedness i was talking about,i thought the conversation and skills program was to improve our children of Australia (ALL) to work towards the next world cup in Australia not who has paid the FFA and who hasn't.

[one nil]

sorry don't mean to sound rude but this is the kind of narrow mindedness i was talking about,i thought the conversation and skills program was to improve our children of Australia (ALL) to work towards the next world cup in Australia not who has paid the FFA and who hasn't.

Yes, but I say again, it HAS to come at a cost, and at the moment only Federation clubs are contributing to that cost, so, either no one pays or everyone pays or only the people who pay benefit!

[Željko Jurin]

sorry don't mean to sound rude but this is the kind of narrow mindedness i was talking about,i thought the conversation and skills program was to improve our children of Australia (ALL) to work towards the next world cup in Australia not who has paid the FFA and who hasn't.

Just get your dinasaurs who run E&D to come under the FFA banner, and the kids get the opportunity...........simple really

[Željko Jurin]

And this programme has nothing to do with the FFSA, Richie works for the FFA, it's all run by them

Question......If Australia gets the 2022 WC, will E&D cry and whinge and demand to be a part of it, yet don't want to contribute $$$$$$ to the cause ??

[leeds city]

ONE QUESTION!!!!!
What are Richie Alagich,s Qualifications as a Junior development coach ( I appreciate he played at a decent Standard ) but so did Bobby Moore+ Bobby Charlton world cup winners both FAILED as coaches one at Southend the other at Preston.

Does Richie hold a FIFA Academy Managers Licence which in Europe is required to be obtained AFTER you qualify for your UEFA " A " and is not a short course, for Coaches wishing to work with Juniors in Academys or Schools of Excellence.

IF not then WHAT are the BENEFITS for young players attending this scheme , that they cannot gain from SOME!!!!!!! of the qualified coaches at Club Level.

Top European Clubs (Professionals ) 9s 10s + 11s train 3 nights and play 1 game, however they have EXPERT medical advice Sports Pyscology etc etc as well as Academy Manager Qualified Coaches and Assistants with UEFA A licences studying for Managers qualifications.

I honestly APPLAUD the FFSA,s intentions, yet honestly wonder if this is an attempt to counter Adelaide United,s ( " elite " Academey" ) and ALL the other Private Academys.

BEAR in mind FIFA regs are an Academy must have a QUALIFIED Academy Manager or it can only be a "school of Excellence"

Perhaps The FFSA would be better in the first instance obtaining the services of a properly qulified person and working with Club coaches who themselves are qualified for Youth development.

Marquee Coaches smacks of Elitism and if you have the tracksuit your child must be a good player.

We need to develop the game in SA but must MOVE Away from the OLD Boys club and its not what you know but WHO you know attitude or we will never have a player in the Next AUSSIE World Cup Squad

[Stitch This]

I honestly APPLAUD the FFSA,s intentions, yet honestly wonder if this is an attempt to counter Adelaide United,s ( " elite " Academey" ) and ALL the other Private Academys.

Shows you really know what you are talking about

[Željko Jurin]

Leeds City, this is an FFA scheme, his Boss is Han Berger (I think he wld have the 'paperwork' you are asking for) and he reports directly to him. He will have all the resources available to him that any National Aust coach (u13 yes there is an Aust u13 team coached by Frank Juric, u16, u17, etc..)has in the FFA

This is u10 and u11, so is NOT competing with AU elite Academy as they are u12/13

It is not competing with any other 'money making' Academy, because it's FREE to the successful kids

I know Richie has been to Syd 2-3 times for 2 week blocks, he has his Uefa C that I know of, if not higher

They employed 8 or 9 SAP coaches around Aust, ALL have played at a HIGH level (for Aust standards anyway), so they can all demonstrate the game specific skills that the FFA wants them to learn.
The FFA is the ones running the programme, the coaches are the 'teachers'

[Željko Jurin]

PS......it's NOT an Academy, it's a Programme.......SKILLS AQUISTION PROGRAMME, run by the Highest Football Governing body of Aus, headed by Han Berger, the TD in Aust

Email the FFA, ask for his qualifications

[leeds city]

zeljko
You appear to miss my points.

1 I believe Richie Alagich is a GOOD choice to run this program as long as he chooses the right people to help him and has proper support.

2 4 nights may be a little too much for this age group , IMO 2 club 1 program=3 nights one game

3 young players need firstly a good Club / Team enviroment / Good Coaches

4 Why not get Richie to do one night with the boys and 2 with willing to learn coaches AT Clubs . Instead of rushing in with the first group of "elite" players

ps dont believe even the Dutch know everything

[Željko Jurin]

ps dont believe even the Dutch know everything

They've made 2 or 3 WC finals and won a European Cup final with less than half our population, they know ALOT more then us, that's for sure !!

[Željko Jurin]

4 nights may be a little too much for this age group , IMO 2 club 1 program=3 nights one game

1-1.5 hrs x 4 nights too much ??

Should we cut down kids 1hr lunch breaks at school too then, or just stop them from running around for that 1 hr x 5 times a week..........or do we just not even realize that this happens EVERY day a child goes to school

But every parent has a choice, if you think it will be too much for your child, don't trial.....simple !

[Jeda]

ps dont believe even the Dutch know everything

They've made 2 or 3 WC finals and won a European Cup final with less than half our population, they know ALOT more then us, that's for sure !!

stupid reasoning by that argument we should be looking at countries that have a proven track record Brazil 5, Italy 4, Germany 3, Argentina 2, Uruguay 2, France 1, England 1, Spain 1 football is the no.1 sport for the dutch, no.4 for oz why aren't we looking at the system that the top 3 world cup winners use people are in love with a dutch system from the 1970's wake up people & have a look at the present & future

[Željko Jurin]

ps dont believe even the Dutch know everything

They've made 2 or 3 WC finals and won a European Cup final with less than half our population, they know ALOT more then us, that's for sure !!

stupid reasoning by that argument we should be looking at countries that have a proven track record Brazil 5, Italy 4, Germany 3, Argentina 2, Uruguay 2, France 1, England 1, Spain 1 football is the no.1 sport for the dutch, no.4 for oz why aren't we looking at the system that the top 3 world cup winners use people are in love with a dutch system from the 1970's wake up people & have a look at the present & future

1/ Brazil............kids play futsal and in the street until 13yo, and then go trial at clubs on a BIG pitch (pop 192million)
2/ Italy.............play football not to concede a goal, boring really (pop 60million)
3/ Germany....... kids from 7-8yo train 3-4 times a week.(pop 82million) Above, it was said that an 11yo training 4 nights a week is too much

1970s ??

Lets be more realistic............ Holland (pop 16million)

Like I said, they made the final this year and semi's in '98 also, but more importantly, look at all their WORLD class players that play at the top clubs in Europe, that's what Aust wants to try and achieve, the rest will fall into place

[Željko Jurin]

This is what the French do, sounds very similar to what FFA are trying to bring in now, so it's not just all Dutch, but other countries all do similar things.......

http://www.footballtechniqueschool.com. ... System.pdf

[johnydep]

.... every parent has a choice, if you think it will be too much for your child, don't trial.....simple !

Agreed.

Take away the TV, the Play Station, Gameboy, WII, etc and help the kids manage their time after school and on weekends, then they'll have plenty of time for training (but only if the player wants it).

I've seen kids (with parents help) manage training 4 nights per week plus game day, and they're school work has not suffered. But this is not for every young player, first confirm with them whether they're willing to make the sacrifices.

And let the kids play! Lots of small sided games, futsal/indoor is great in the off season. Don't get upset with kids that show off their skills in a game, hold on to the ball, dribble excessively, etc. It's not about winning at this age, it's about trying their skills, practicing and expressing themselves.

Germany’s system emphasises development in elite centres from a slightly older age, and focuses on small-sided skills at younger ages. Via Honigstein: “We start with the U-9s. They play four-a-side, on small pitches, to encourage individual skills,” said Thomas Albeck, head of youth development at Stuttgart. “We then add players every year, only the U-13s are playing with full teams.”

There are many lessons here to consider for countries around the world struggling with trying to work out the best way to develop young domestic talent.

[mail man]

Is this the same Ritchie who plays at Raiders on an Amateur contract supposedly earning $100 a game or less while in fact he gets around $700?
And then the FFA employ him to coach our kids.

The fish stinks from the head.

[Željko Jurin]

Mail man, grow a brain

Maybe you should have applied for the position if you think you are better qualified

'around', is that same as 'I don't have any idea, so let's just make up a figure?'

Seriously, does it really matter where, when, how much and what kind of contract he was on when he was a player ?

Please, tells us all how YOU would know what type of contracts players 'were' on?

[go u doggies]

does anybody know when this program starts. there is no real information other than the posts on this forum.ffsa and ffa web sites do not have any relative information. did hear rumors about it late in the 2010 season but nothing since.

[Željko Jurin]

Trials are starting in the next couple of weeks

Kids that are in the correct age have been nominated by the clubs directly

Then 'I think' the progamme will start Jan 2011

[the coach]

Actually I was involved first hand in these trials and was one of the helpers to Richie....The guy knows what he's talking about and FFA definitely chose the right person for the kids here in SA.

I was under the impression how will he know in an hour who the more elite kids are but he definitely got it spot on in our case. Good luck to the Kids that make it and it definitely will give all the kids a lot more reason to play our beautiful game and not the other codes.

Well Done FFA

[mail man]

Actually I was involved first hand in these trials and was one of the helpers to Richie....The guy knows what he's talking about and FFA definitely chose the right person for the kids here in SA.

I was under the impression how will he know in an hour who the more elite kids are but he definitely got it spot on in our case. Good luck to the Kids that make it and it definitely will give all the kids a lot more reason to play our beautiful game and not the other codes.

Well Done FFA

How could you be involved in these trials when they haven't even taken place yet! What planet are you on?
For you Zelko, it's an absolute fact all Raiders players are on Amateur contracts & being paid under the table including Ritchie.

[Green_Manalishi]

......it's an absolute fact all Raiders players are on Amateur contracts & being paid under the table including Ritchie.

Got a problem with it then take it to the proper forum and stop clogging up the Junior forum with you whining Whaaa Whaaa Whaaa!

[Željko Jurin]

Actually I was involved first hand in these trials and was one of the helpers to Richie....The guy knows what he's talking about and FFA definitely chose the right person for the kids here in SA.

I was under the impression how will he know in an hour who the more elite kids are but he definitely got it spot on in our case. Good luck to the Kids that make it and it definitely will give all the kids a lot more reason to play our beautiful game and not the other codes.

Well Done FFA

How could you be involved in these trials when they haven't even taken place yet! What planet are you on?
For you Zelko, it's an absolute fact all Raiders players are on Amateur contracts & being paid under the table including Ritchie.

Yep, all the u10s and u11s get something 'under the table'......... That's what this topic is about, isn't it ???

[Željko Jurin]

The coach is talking about pre-trial trials, that's 'what planet he is on'

So if you have no idea, as you don't, please refrain from commenting !

[the coach]

Actually I was involved first hand in these trials and was one of the helpers to Richie....The guy knows what he's talking about and FFA definitely chose the right person for the kids here in SA.

I was under the impression how will he know in an hour who the more elite kids are but he definitely got it spot on in our case. Good luck to the Kids that make it and it definitely will give all the kids a lot more reason to play our beautiful game and not the other codes.

Well Done FFA

How could you be involved in these trials when they haven't even taken place yet! What planet are you on?
For you Zelko, it's an absolute fact all Raiders players are on Amateur contracts & being paid under the table including Ritchie.

Mate your an absolute tool. Thats right I was talking about pre trials. I hope your not a parent of someone who plays soccer because its people like you that should get a life and probably still play on your Commodore 64 and ATARI Tim "THE TOOL" Man. Get with the Programme Yarder

[Željko Jurin]

All the 17 or 18 out there are excellent players, tough choice

Would be a joy to coach all those kids, their technical ability and game awareness is a joy to watch, and the kids hardly know each other

[Ginger Pele]

All the 17 or 18 out there are excellent players, tough choice

Would be a joy to coach all those kids, their technical ability and game awareness is a joy to watch, and the kids hardly know each other

Yes,have been told that the kids out there are all very good so good luck to them all and look forward to getting out and watching some sessions.

Hard for the ones that do miss out but plenty of time ahead for all the kids.Great achievement to get this far.

Well Done to all and I think Richie will really relish the role of passing on his knowledge to these kids

[liverpool]

Well done to all the players selected, you can really see that they all have fantastic technical abillity and game awareness. Richie will definately relish in this role passing on all his knowledge to all the kids. It will be interesting to see how they develop over the next 10 months or so. Well done to FFA for introducing the SAP.

[Ginger Pele]

Can anyone say how the SAP went this morning, I understand both age groups had there first sessions this morning.

Bet all the kids were so excited but a touch nervous too.How exciting for the parents too.

Good luck to all and I reckon Richie will be in his element now its up and running.

[liverpool]

Sap went really well. Both under 10 & 11 squads were exposed to some excellent training drills. Quite a few players missing due to holidays. GP, you should make some time for a look see, as you will enyoy the training drills to pass on to your team. The kids didn't look nervous, but they certainly enjoyed themselves.