Establishment of a Junior State League for season 2011

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so what happens to the SASI Women in U/16b .
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[quote="Southampton #7"]so what happens to the SASI Women in U/16b .[/quote

Nothing I would think as they dont play in the JPL do they?
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BIG RED wrote:can anyone post up more info - this may help

'Senior Men’s Clubs (Super, Premier & State) may only submit one JPL team per age group which team will play in one of the first three divisions. Senior Men’s Clubs that wish to allocate more than one team per age group will have their additional teams placed into Division 4 and below. Clubs that are not currently in the senior men’s competition will be permitted to submit teams into the Junior Premier League, with these teams being allocated to Division 4 and below. It must be noted that while there will still be promotion and relegation between Divisions 1, 2 and 3, there will be no promotion and relegation between Division 3 and 4.

The Football Federation SA will be opening up the Junior Premier League for any clubs to enter teams into Division 4 and below. This will provide opportunities for all clubs that currently sit outside of the Football Federation SA to join the football family.'

Above is what was was put out in Dec and basically the only change to this is the Div 4 and below is now going to be called the Junior State league.
So it will be the JPL div 1,2,3 or A,B,C and the JSL 1,2,3,4 or A,B,C,D (or how ever many divisions is needed). Only clubs that have seniors with the FFSA (ie Metros) can only have 1 team in the JPL in any particular age group. If clubs that have seniors with the FFSA have second teams then that second team has to play in the JSL and them clubs can have as many teams as they like in the JSL in any JSL age group. Teams that dont have senior teams in the FFSA (ie Sturt, Beverly, Munno Para) can only go into the JSL and not the JPL. No team can get promopted from the JSL to the JPL.

helps?
I wouldnt be surprised if Munno Para went back to E&D if this is the case I cant see the seniors joining the FFSA and play in the State League.

I love how they use the words "football family" because in reality the parents have seperated and it looks like they arent getting back together and all the kids arent happy & dont like their step father whos a meanie :(
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I noticed munno para are advertising for coaches on the federation website. And they would have been aware of this structure before they joined this season as it was announced last December.

I still think this new competition will be much stronger than e&d. Clubs second teams would be a good match for e&d clubs.
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BIG RED wrote:
Southampton #7 wrote:so what happens to the SASI Women in U/16b .[/quote

Nothing I would think as they dont play in the JPL do they?

UNDER 16B P W D L GF GA GD Points
Northern Demons 16 12 3 1 51 15 36 39
Para Hills 17 11 4 2 41 16 25 37
MetroStars 16 11 2 3 36 21 15 35
SASI Women 18 11 1 6 44 37 7 34
South Adelaide 17 9 3 5 47 31 16 30
Pirates 13 8 2 3 35 18 17 26
Croydon 15 5 5 5 26 24 2 20
Adelaide Cobras 17 5 5 7 33 40 -7 20
Adelaide Hills 17 5 1 11 36 49 -13 16
Seaford 15 4 2 9 25 42 -17 14
Plympton 17 3 1 13 12 47 -35 10
Raiders 15 2 2 11 18 45 -27 8
Gawler 15 1 3 11 16 35 -19 6
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Re: Establishment of a Junior State League for season 2011

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SASI Women - JSL I would say but yes will be interesting to see what happens with them.
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BIG RED wrote:SASI Women - JSL I would say but yes will be interesting to see what happens with them.
You can bet they will be in the JPL in 2011, even though SASI is not actually a club.
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Soap Box wrote:
BIG RED wrote:SASI Women - JSL I would say but yes will be interesting to see what happens with them.
You can bet they will be in the JPL in 2011, even though SASI is not actually a club.
Gotta be in the JPL as the elite segment must be supported.
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Have only heard most of this information second hand and those observers believe that the 2nd,/3rd. rung teams will be forced into the Saturday Schools leagues. These same people believe that it will further stretch the shortage of suitable grounds.
Also overheard a club official at one club say "it's great, the FFSA have done the dirty work for us and we can tell those player that occupy those 2nd./3rd. rung teams to "f " and concentrate on the good ones."
Not sure I liked hearing that attitude at what I would call a development club ?
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Talk Is Cheap wrote:Have only heard most of this information second hand and those observers believe that the 2nd,/3rd. rung teams will be forced into the Saturday Schools leagues. These same people believe that it will further stretch the shortage of suitable grounds.
Also overheard a club official at one club say "it's great, the FFSA have done the dirty work for us and we can tell those player that occupy those 2nd./3rd. rung teams to "shiraz off" and concentrate on the good ones."
Not sure I liked hearing that attitude at what I would call a development club ?
Here come all the federation soccer baggers!

The majority of clubs have been calling for this format for a long time as i have previously stated.

They wont be forced into school competitions. This is bascially JPL D, E divisions but its own competition. i seriously doubt the federation will want to lose players which means they lose money, so they would be telling then the "f"off like you said.

but i guess the non affiliated federation clubs and associations will start to slag off the federation so they can "steal" these clubs and players.

Here come the dirty tactics by non affiliated associations. maybe they are scared of the current jpl clubs becoming more stronger then there own clubs because they have taken the next step from their local competitions such as Munno Para, sturt, plympton, beverley,fulham who all want to be part of the bigger picture and participate in the Junior State league
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Brian32 wrote:
Talk Is Cheap wrote:Have only heard most of this information second hand and those observers believe that the 2nd,/3rd. rung teams will be forced into the Saturday Schools leagues. These same people believe that it will further stretch the shortage of suitable grounds.
Also overheard a club official at one club say "it's great, the FFSA have done the dirty work for us and we can tell those player that occupy those 2nd./3rd. rung teams to "shiraz off" and concentrate on the good ones."
Not sure I liked hearing that attitude at what I would call a development club ?
Here come all the federation soccer baggers!

The majority of clubs have been calling for this format for a long time as i have previously stated.

They wont be forced into school competitions. This is bascially JPL D, E divisions but its own competition. i seriously doubt the federation will want to lose players which means they lose money, so they would be telling then the "f"off like you said.

but i guess the non affiliated federation clubs and associations will start to slag off the federation so they can "steal" these clubs and players.

Here come the dirty tactics by non affiliated associations. maybe they are scared of the current jpl clubs becoming more stronger then there own clubs because they have taken the next step from their local competitions such as Munno Para, sturt, plympton, beverley,fulham who all want to be part of the bigger picture and participate in the Junior State league
True I'm not a great fan of the system, but my son is playing at the said Club (which is affiliated) where I heard the comments...it's more a case of the pro-FFSA persons like yourself slagging off anyone who airs criticism or observations about decisions or directives. I would have thought the bigger picture encompassed "all" football in SA, not just a part of it.
The highlighted comment is what I heard, not second hand !
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Re: Establishment of a Junior State League for season 2011

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still confused by the format,

there will be a Premiere league, is there a div 2, 3 and then 4 ? like edjsa

perhaps the better format is Premiere league , with only one club represented( i know thats what been suggested) , then 2 teams max from each club in div 2, then 3 teams max for div3 and lastly div4 open to however many you like

cup games are limited to Premiere league and div 2 teams and a minor cup round where div 3 and div 4 battle it out , this way top teams arent flogging the bottom and teams in div 3 and div 4 have a good chance of fighting for a cup.

anyway thats my 2 bobs worth
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