How much does it cost a club to win Sunday Premier League

[Indeed]

Going by this topic, Florina..... " apparantely"....... is the only team in the Sunday Premier league that pays players.

Most teams do. Especially quality players. Well done to Florina, Downs, Ingle Farm, and Gardens I say.

they have all recruited well.

Players like, L. Campbell, Joe T, Brooksy, Cartright, Agius, JM, Fuda, A Stam to name a few, have made the league stronger. If the clubs are willing and can afford to pay them what is the Problem?

They attract quality players, which creates attractive football for supporters and crowds and most importantly, Sponsors.

Turnover and sponsors money etc. needs to be spent well.

Championships are won by the team that is able to spend it's money wisely.

All clubs have wages and expenses. Its what you get in return for the money you spend which will determine who will win the championship.
Players get paid for their services on the park. better players obviously receive more money but also deliver the goods every week.
A trainer is as important. He gets paid to sort out injuries. His job is to get players back on the park. Long injury lists has cost many teams a championship.

every club needs equipment, the more the better. it all counts and makes the difference.

$500 will Buy you a Datsun 180 B and will take you 10 hours to get from A to B.

$50000 will buy you a Subaru WRX and will take you 6-7 hours to get from A to B.

The point I'm making is this; 300 bucks will get me a flight from A to B and a return flight back to A in 4 hours.


Good Luck to all teams, and remember to spend your money wisely.


by the way, every club pays the referees fees and they are fucken useless!!

[BeogradGeneralsC's]

for thr record I agree I am happy if i was the pres of an amatur club who has a premier league side to look at player payments.

If the sponsorship $$$ and other revenue streams are there... absolutely.

IMO I interpreted this thread to mean - how much $$$ would it take to win the sunday league.

The benchmark is Florina. They won last season, have quality players and look like going back to back. they pay players. How much... we dont know.

I would guess to have a quality side/coach and ancillary staff to compete and win the premier league on sunday you would need 25k-30k per season.

[Bomber]

It costs $27,433.10

[Mr X]

Going by this topic, Florina..... " apparantely"....... is the only team in the Sunday Premier league that pays players.

Most teams do. Especially quality players. Well done to Florina, Downs, Ingle Farm, and Gardens I say.

they have all recruited well.

Players like, L. Campbell, Joe T, Brooksy, Cartright, Agius, JM, Fuda, A Stam to name a few, have made the league stronger. If the clubs are willing and can afford to pay them what is the Problem?

Didnt these players already play in the amateur league last year and even prior to that?

[facepoker]

Well this is a good debate that i started sure it is great for the comp to have such great players but at the end of the day parity is whats needed for the other teams that dont have the coin to succeed.

[Bomber]

Well this is a good debate that i started sure it is great for the comp to have such great players but at the end of the day parity is whats needed for the other teams that dont have the coin to succeed.

I thought robbo started it!!

[Vale_boy05]

Going by this topic, Florina..... " apparantely"....... is the only team in the Sunday Premier league that pays players.

Most teams do. Especially quality players. Well done to Florina, Downs, Ingle Farm, and Gardens I say.

they have all recruited well.

Players like, L. Campbell, Joe T, Brooksy, Cartright, Agius, JM, Fuda, A Stam to name a few, have made the league stronger. If the clubs are willing and can afford to pay them what is the Problem?

Didnt these players already play in the amateur league last year and even prior to that?

Why does this matter...

[Mr X]

Going by this topic, Florina..... " apparantely"....... is the only team in the Sunday Premier league that pays players.

Most teams do. Especially quality players. Well done to Florina, Downs, Ingle Farm, and Gardens I say.

they have all recruited well.

Players like, L. Campbell, Joe T, Brooksy, Cartright, Agius, JM, Fuda, A Stam to name a few, have made the league stronger. If the clubs are willing and can afford to pay them what is the Problem?

Didnt these players already play in the amateur league last year and even prior to that?

Why does this matter...

Because they are not new to the league and would have been playing amatuers this year most likely thus, the extra $$ (if they are getting it) is just a bonus

[Tim C]

At the end of the day it comes down 11 v 11 ( On the park )
Who cares who is or who is not getting $$$$
Enjoy playing for the Shirt, your team mates, the Supporters and the Club - Anything else is trivial.

[Ubietz]

i also heard westers gets 50 virgins (being a greek club not sure if they are female or male ) and a new mercedes every friday after training.

We also offer a house and land package for every new player in Munno Para West

[Uncle Cracker]

[quote="bigpond"]guys be serious.

Westers, Brooks, Fuda to name a few play at Florina for the barbie after the game.

And Manca left West Beach and his mates to drive 35 mins to get to the club every week cos he loves the barbie too.

Good on Florina if they can afford it - nothing to be ashamed about in paying players very good money but dont take us for fools as we r not stupid.[/quote]

Who's doing that

Some of $$$$ being mentioned on here is just laughable.

[Happy Kopite]

It cost over $1m to get relegated to Sunday Div 3.

[pc81]

It cost over $1m to get relegated to Sunday Div 3.

Hahaha!!!!!!! Take the rest of the day off HK for that call, absolue cracker!!

[East Boy]

And here i was thinking we might get through this season with this topic not coming up. I cant recall a season where this one hasnt come up.
The fact is, these big (or successful) clubs can afford to pay their players. They all do it, we've all heard the figures bantered around, they may be true or false. At the end of the day what can you do about it? I think its great that we (the amateur league) can attract top ex fed players. Div1 in my opinion is one of the strongest comps we have had for a few years. These quality players should get more than others in the comp. If clubs create a good enough atmosphere, generate enough sponsors and put in the hard yards then i say good on them. Its really what we all strive for in our own clubs.

[Jay Walking]

This post is funny and comes up every year.

Most Div 1 sides pay their players. Some clubs pay more than others but they can afford too.

I'm not a fan of paying players but the reality is that to attract good players or to prevent them from going to other clubs who do pay, you have to pay them.

We pay but its very little but its enough at the moment to keep people at the club. Providing them a reason to enjoy the club is more important sometimes than the amount you offer. Our crowds are the biggest they have ever been and we attract a few neutrals mainly because they don't mind watching good players running around. They buy a Yiros and a beer and we make money out of having those good players there. Have to speculate to accumulate.

The figures talked about with Florina are excessive. They would be up there for amount spend along with Gardens and Downs but these are also the three biggest attendances at games. They probably have the biggest sponsorships and the biggest bar takings so they can afford to spend what they do.

As long as you live within your means, its not a big issue.

[Judge Judy]

Providing them a reason to enjoy the club is more important sometimes than the amount you offer.

good point mate, I could probably take another $200 pay cut if it meant you guys kept letting me win darts

[Mato]

Our crowds are the biggest they have ever been and we attract a few neutrals mainly because they don't mind watching good players running around. They buy a Yiros and a beer and we make money out of having those good players there. Have to speculate to accumulate.

I think you will find neutrals coming specifically for the yiros !

[Robbo]

Providing them a reason to enjoy the club is more important sometimes than the amount you offer.

good point mate, I could probably take another $200 pay cut if it meant you guys kept letting me win darts

bah thats only coz Im not there

[Kitchimo]

one million dollars

[Bomber]

one million dollars

....and thats just for the refs!

[Jay Walking]

Providing them a reason to enjoy the club is more important sometimes than the amount you offer.

good point mate, I could probably take another $200 pay cut if it meant you guys kept letting me win darts

We are kind to people for the first year at the club in darts. Just wait till I get back to knock you out of KILLER

[ferencvarosi1984]

at the end of the day if your only willing to play for a amateur club that pays you then it just shows how little respect you have for that club and football itself.

these players that just go from club to club are nothing but arragent and think that there better then football itself and have no respect for the clubs they play for.

[florina15]

okay here is a bit of information for all those people that think they know how many and how much players get payed...currently at florina we have 6 players that get payed to play the other 10 or so players get $20 drink cards that is it. as for me getting $900 i can tell you that it works out to be more than that a week..soccer is about winning things if it means you have to spend a bit of money to be successful then so be it....chelsea springs to mind.

[robinfriday10]

beauty..... Man City for the EPL azza???

[M Andrea]

u can't buy a mansion with peanuts!!!! money talks and bullcrap comes out of people's mouths. Jealous maybe money is getting things you want and for those that don't have money, only wish they had it and are toooooooo lasy to work for it. So stop whinging what players get paid, would you work for nuthin? And in any case, a club is not for profit, so if it has great sponsors and makes a bit of cash, it's meant to be spent and not sitting in a kitty for presidents and secretaries to spend on them selves or other crap. and those people that complain about players that get paid good money are either scrubbers that don't get paid or half descent players that don't get what they should get paid. money buys you anything, except life. So you if you don't have it, suck dog balls

[swannsong]

Paying players is OK to a point, (providing it doesn't take away from developing the Club), at least you can dock them money if they don't train.
However, the one thing it won't usually buy is loyalty.
As a Club member, the biggest pride I feel or have felt, is when a lad coming through a Club's juniors (if they have them) makes it into the 1st. Team.
But that is even better when there are role models of experienced, skillful players around them to help them develop their footballing prowess.....so it can be a good combination to lure in some of these role models with a bit of incentive.

[KING NUGGETT]

Sunday Premier League or 1st Division has changed over the years 15 yrs I have been involved. 10 years ago we would get a quality player like Barrie Crooke willing to play for the club for peanuts but he was at the end of his career & was lucky enough to win a Championship with his mates. Today we are getting quality players like Stamm, Aguis, Westervelt, Manker in the prime of there football careers. Some of those players are attracted by the money, some by the belief of a Silverware, but for what ever reason they come, they do come & have improved the quality of our competition dramatically. We have currently a player who I won't mention his name, he had a $600 per game contract with a Super League Club, he has come to our club & is now getting paid the same as the rest of our players. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying there arnt other players on a lot more but he came back to the club because his GARDENS & has a family & dosnt want to commit to the 4 times a week with a Super League Club. We also have out 17 yr old gun at the start of his career who will move on to bigger things. We also have Freddy who had a disagreement with AC for what ever reason & came to us for the rest of the season if his on more than the rest of our players Good Luck to him his quality they wanted him chased him & got him & if he helps us win the League or Cup fantastic. What I'm really trying to say is all players are different you have to adapt & play it how it comes. If you believe your going to Win Sunday Premier League Championship paying nothing Good Luck to you. Downs, Florina, Gardens, Farm pay their players that's just how it is. I saw a FFSA Premier League game yesterday & SAASL Premier League I believe kills it. We have Strong Fiancial Clubs who attract Ex. A-League, NSL, Super League players & we pay some of those players to attract them. I have never heard of a Amateur League player not recieving his match payment from a SAASL Club. I believe must be doing something right, let's keep up the good work...

[Redders]

Sunday Premier League or 1st Division has changed over the years 15 yrs I have been involved. 10 years ago we would get a quality player like Barrie Crooke willing to play for the club for peanuts but he was at the end of his career & was lucky enough to win a Championship with his mates. Today we are getting quality players like Stamm, Aguis, Westervelt, Manker in the prime of there football careers. Some of those players are attracted by the money, some by the belief of a Silverware, but for what ever reason they come, they do come & have improved the quality of our competition dramatically. We have currently a player who I won't mention his name, he had a $600 per game contract with a Super League Club, he has come to our club & is now getting paid the same as the rest of our players. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying there arnt other players on a lot more but he came back to the club because his GARDENS & has a family & dosnt want to commit to the 4 times a week with a Super League Club. We also have out 17 yr old gun at the start of his career who will move on to bigger things. We also have Freddy who had a disagreement with AC for what ever reason & came to us for the rest of the season if his on more than the rest of our players Good Luck to him his quality they wanted him chased him & got him & if he helps us win the League or Cup fantastic. What I'm really trying to say is all players are different you have to adapt & play it how it comes. If you believe your going to Win Sunday Premier League Championship paying nothing Good Luck to you. Downs, Florina, Gardens, Farm pay their players that's just how it is. I saw a FFSA Premier League game yesterday & SAASL Premier League I believe kills it. We have Strong Fiancial Clubs who attract Ex. A-League, NSL, Super League players & we pay some of those players to attract them. I have never heard of a Amateur League player not recieving his match payment from a SAASL Club. I believe must be doing something right, let's keep up the good work...

You should start a blah blah thread nugget

[lionman]

okay here is a bit of information for all those people that think they know how many and how much players get payed...currently at florina we have 6 players that get payed to play the other 10 or so players get $20 drink cards that is it. as for me getting $900 i can tell you that it works out to be more than that a week..soccer is about winning things if it means you have to spend a bit of money to be successful then so be it....chelsea springs to mind.

Hey dont get me wrong you are quality and are worth money, but $900 or more a week just for one player, let alone what they are paying the rest seems ridiculous for an amateur club regardless of how much money the club has, and to come on hear and boast about it is a bit sad. Having won sun div 1 in 05 knowing that everyone was on petrol money, if that per week im a bit bemused, i guess if both parties are happy it doesnt really matter. If it was to continue for a few years no doubt Florina would lose respect, and set an unrealistic expectation for the rest of the league, just my opinion...

[Kitchimo]

nuggett I'm not disparaging you or putting you or your club down, but this comment I'm about to post is along the lines of what I said in the other thread re there being 29 'semi-professional' clubs 'above' the amateur clubs in the so-called 'league structure'.

Players like those you mentioned below are great to have playing at amateur level. Ebomo absolutely killed us today through the middle of the park in patches and I'm sure Agius would have done some damage. What do clubs like yours actually aspire to? (and I assume, alot of other Northern clubs - I've only ever visited Elizabeth Downs, Ingle Farm, and today saw PHE and Parafield Gardens). You all have thriving junior setups, you have a significant amount of supporters (I drove past the Campbelltown first-team game yesterday on my way to watch the second half of Uni v Florina and there was maybe a third of the amount of people that were at the cup game today), you obviously have the $$$, you have the clubroom setups (although your away changerooms could use some work ), but do you have the ambition? Is your club (and the other 'big' northern clubs) happy to play and win at essentially the 'fourth' division/level of football even though they have all those things I mentioned above that could easily translate into them becoming a significant member of the State / Premier / Super League? I say this because, being completely honest, it seems like such a waste for me seeing and hearing (and playing against) these guys that are excellent footballers who should in all honesty be playing at a higher level. The kudos of course goes to clubs like yours that can attract them with $$$, loyalty, darts etc. Are your clubs happy being 'junior feeders' for Playford, Salisbury United and Modbury Jets? This isn't like the SANFL and SAAFL where there are 9 defined clubs and the amateur clubs are zoned and the juniors all strive to be 'rep' players in the SANFL - clubs like yours have the setups and abilities to apply for and move into the 'semi-professional' ranks, compete and do well there! There's nothing wrong with that if that's how the club/s view themselves, but as I said above it seems like just a waste.

In my mind the FFSA is absolutely stupid for letting amateur clubs have this amount of pulling power to quality players. It should be doing whatever it takes to integrate clubs like yours (and the other 'big' clubs) into its family so it can take advantage of all those qualities that I mentioned above.

Love to hear the thoughts from other 'big' 'northern' clubs.

Sunday Premier League or 1st Division has changed over the years 15 yrs I have been involved. 10 years ago we would get a quality player like Barrie Crooke willing to play for the club for peanuts but he was at the end of his career & was lucky enough to win a Championship with his mates. Today we are getting quality players like Stamm, Aguis, Westervelt, Manker in the prime of there football careers. Some of those players are attracted by the money, some by the belief of a Silverware, but for what ever reason they come, they do come & have improved the quality of our competition dramatically. We have currently a player who I won't mention his name, he had a $600 per game contract with a Super League Club, he has come to our club & is now getting paid the same as the rest of our players. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying there arnt other players on a lot more but he came back to the club because his GARDENS & has a family & dosnt want to commit to the 4 times a week with a Super League Club. We also have out 17 yr old gun at the start of his career who will move on to bigger things. We also have Freddy who had a disagreement with AC for what ever reason & came to us for the rest of the season if his on more than the rest of our players Good Luck to him his quality they wanted him chased him & got him & if he helps us win the League or Cup fantastic. What I'm really trying to say is all players are different you have to adapt & play it how it comes. If you believe your going to Win Sunday Premier League Championship paying nothing Good Luck to you. Downs, Florina, Gardens, Farm pay their players that's just how it is. I saw a FFSA Premier League game yesterday & SAASL Premier League I believe kills it. We have Strong Fiancial Clubs who attract Ex. A-League, NSL, Super League players & we pay some of those players to attract them. I have never heard of a Amateur League player not recieving his match payment from a SAASL Club. I believe must be doing something right, let's keep up the good work...