League Restructure - Campbelltown City

[Deutschland Duchess]

frankly I would have been pissed off if they added ctown to div 2 this year..
They did the same thing last year by adding Parafield Gardens and Eliz Downs to div 3 (which is now div 2)after about round 3. Gardens went on to win the league and downs didn't win a game. it was very disruptive, even after only 3 rounds. I can only imagine how bad this would be for teams in div 4. I think they'll be competitive in div 1, only time will tell.

i can say on the behalf of Parafield Gardens that we were very thankful that the ffsa let us back into the league and thought that we were put into the appropriate div and were not smashing teams like cc will in div 4, would you have said that it was disruptive if we didnt win the league

[nanstar]

Yes, I would have actually. No disrespect DD, I think you have a really good team and you deserve to be in div 2. but last year some teams had results removed from round three and had games replayed against other opponents. other teams were left with their results for that round. it was silly. Personally, I think that teams entering divisions after the designated date should forfeit ALL games up until their entry. This way it will not be AS disruptive and will not be as unfair. If you just want to have the opportunity to play, then you still can. With Ctown in div 4, they should not have the opportunity to play all of those games in hand. Just my opinion

[shorty]

any ground past north terrace should be relegated anyway i think....

[volim te futbal]

You think thats bad shorty... div 1 girls have to travel everywhere....

Flinders, adelaide hills, Stirling, gawler, elizabeth!! talk about sight seeing SA lol

[adelaidepie]

Deutschland Duchess Said "i can say on the behalf of Parafield Gardens that we were very thankful that the ffsa let us back into the league and thought that we were put into the appropriate div and were not smashing teams like cc will in div 4, would you have said that it was disruptive if we didnt win the league."

I agree with you here but also agree with what nanstar. I have / had no problem with yParafield Gardens or any other team being allowed back int other competition because everyone could understand what you were trying to achieve, however as nanstart said the only issue was that the FFSA for some reason can up with an absolutely stupid rule in the way they handled your teams reentry. All of course which was not your teams fault however how did the FFSA come up with the rule that if you won or lost your first three games then the result stood however if you drew your game you replayed it WT! This with all respect messed the results up for all concerend. Teams that drew the first time either won or lost the replay. Unfair for the team that lsot (MY team wasn't one of them) however for teams that did not replay any game becuase they won or lost was now at a disadvantage because teams originally on 1 point had the opportunity to now get 3 points which some teams did.

Makes catching teams in a tight league which division 3 was even harder.

So, not Gardens fault and yes you should have been allowed back into the league, but as with campbelltown now their result should stand for games played or they drop with 0 and start fro mthere. This way fair for the teams who have already played their games.

Adelaidepie Julian

[nanstar]

Deutschland Duchess Said "i can say on the behalf of Parafield Gardens that we were very thankful that the ffsa let us back into the league and thought that we were put into the appropriate div and were not smashing teams like cc will in div 4, would you have said that it was disruptive if we didnt win the league."

I agree with you here but also agree with what nanstar. I have / had no problem with yParafield Gardens or any other team being allowed back int other competition because everyone could understand what you were trying to achieve, however as nanstart said the only issue was that the FFSA for some reason can up with an absolutely stupid rule in the way they handled your teams reentry. All of course which was not your teams fault however how did the FFSA come up with the rule that if you won or lost your first three games then the result stood however if you drew your game you replayed it WT! This with all respect messed the results up for all concerend. Teams that drew the first time either won or lost the replay. Unfair for the team that lsot (MY team wasn't one of them) however for teams that did not replay any game becuase they won or lost was now at a disadvantage because teams originally on 1 point had the opportunity to now get 3 points which some teams did.

Makes catching teams in a tight league which division 3 was even harder.

So, not Gardens fault and yes you should have been allowed back into the league, but as with campbelltown now their result should stand for games played or they drop with 0 and start fro mthere. This way fair for the teams who have already played their games.

Adelaidepie Julian

I agree with you 100% Adelaidepie.. the crazy thing was that Metro div 3 of 2009 drew our 3rd round against Cumby but were the only team NOT to have our game replayed! and that round we had a very uncharacteristic draw. We should have won. Later in the year when we played our second game against cumby we won 4-1. I still have no idea why they made other teams replay their draws. And if so, why Metro's result stood. And it seems that FFSA has done it again. Ridiculous. Yes, let the team in. But NO, you can't let them have games replayed.

[southern]

How funny that reading through this topic you get to know so many of these things!!! It's actually scary to hear so many ppl around having no respect left for the federation. Ppl generally like to complain about stuff, but I have never seen anything like that. Players, parents and a lot of club ppl across various divisions will tell you that they don't have any time for how FFSA runs the sport...

[Tony_Mowbray]

An interesting game at Campbelltown City this weekend.

Was like watching a different side that played against Elizabeth Grove last week, not surprisingly.

Only managed a 3 Nil win against OUT. But hey their not a "top 4 side" so I guess it doesnt count according to the FFSA organisers.

I feel they are here to stay in Div 4.

Well played Campbelltown.

[themagnet]

An interesting game at Campbelltown City this weekend.

Was like watching a different side that played against Elizabeth Grove last week, not surprisingly.

Only managed a 3 Nil win against OUT. But hey their not a "top 4 side" so I guess it doesnt count according to the FFSA organisers.

I feel they are here to stay in Div 4.

Well played Campbelltown.

Did the Div 1 team play this wkend?

[on the side]

Div 1 postponed...

[dormin]

Why was the div 1 game postponed again ???

They are going to be still playing until christmas to make up all these catch up games.....
Is the current count 8 games...

[Tony_Mowbray]

Why was the div 1 game postponed again ???

They are going to be still playing until christmas to make up all these catch up games.....
Is the current count 8 games...

We were told that Campbelltown City were in trouble and needed the help from the FFSA.
The FFSA helped both teams by placing them in Div1 and Div 4 to complete the year, as a matter of convenience for them.
It appears the Div 4 team will do well this year and probably win the league although FFSA cannot appear to understand by how much as they want to see how they do against a top 4 side, what a joke.
The Div 1 side cannot even be bothered to play any normal league fixtures not to mention any catchup games.

So how are they helping themselves.

The FFSA would rather continue to try save 2 teams and stuff it up for 2 whole leagues. (A total of 18 teams)

Well thought out FFSA

[Angela Porcu]

This is become more laughable every week.

[John Cena]

as i have posted before they should have been taken out of the league this season and get there shite back in order and come back in next season, this has disrupted the whole lot....well done again......

[The General]

I agree with you John,they should be given time to get themselves together. It is almost to the point where we have to completely start the whole league from scratch again. Sometimes that is not a bad thing,wont happen because people arent prepared to go through some initial suffering and heartache that would be experienced with the major reshuffling required-but they still complain about the current setup ???

[adelaidepie]

I've been away with work for a week so not been able to add straight away any comments. My comments would be this. On Monday there was a delegates meeting which may have been for prems and div 1 but from what I have heard no one for Div 1 expressed there disappointment at what is happening with the leagues. Why not? This was the perfect opportunity to speak up and state what the issues are. I believe Adelaide City was the main team expressing comments and this is part of the concerns.

No one club will meet with other clubs for brian storming and ideas. Not to hold a coup over the FFSA butto realistically bring suggestions to everyone to think about.

Just a thought

Adelaidepie Julian

[batumgoesthedynamite]

from what i understand from the meeting, there were comments from two premier division clubs which basically insinuated that division 1 clubs were not clearly not good enough, even though these clubs have been included as elite clubs of sa.

how can the game go forward when you have one or two clubs with their own agenda from anyone else.

[adelaidepie]

My point exactly plus I believe only 4 division 1 clubs turned up WT! surely for the competition to grow it needs a majority pushing in the same direction and that means people have to open up, brain storm and be open about views from all sides and work towards making a better competition. This is not what is best for Toros or Flinders or Fulham or Metro or Adelaide City or anyone else this is what is best for FFSA Women's competition.

Adelaidepie Julian

[courtz]

You think thats bad shorty... div 1 girls have to travel everywhere....

Flinders, adelaide hills, Stirling, gawler, elizabeth!! talk about sight seeing SA lol

HA! u think thats bad? when i was living in port pirie the boys sometimes had to travel to seaford etc.
and now up north, our footy boys have to travel to andamooka (about 800 kms) to play.
dont be soft haha!

[fairgame]

just in case anyone is interested Campbelltown played Metro last Wed night and put up an amazing fight and only lost 2nil and that was with several of the team out either injured or working. Great job girls hope everything goes smooth for rest of season just keep working hard for your spot in prems next season

[fairgame]

Also I am pretty sure it is the other teams who wont play campbelltown in div 1 they have not backed out of any game

[themagnet]

Also I am pretty sure it is the other teams who wont play campbelltown in div 1 they have not backed out of any game

If that's the case, that's pretty poor by those Div 1 clubs. FFSA shouldn't be letting them do that, it should be a forfeit. The Div 4 teams have so far all shown up and played, suck it up div 1's and get on with the games!
If it's not true, I withdraw this statement

[southern]

just in case anyone is interested Campbelltown played Metro last Wed night and put up an amazing fight and only lost 2nil and that was with several of the team out either injured or working. Great job girls hope everything goes smooth for rest of season just keep working hard for your spot in prems next season

so if they can be competitive with Metro...WHY THE HELL DID THEY ASK TO BE RELEGATED?????? If they can play...then they should be playing in the PL! One more thing that shows how whoever decided for them to go to D1 has made a clown decision.

[lefty]

Dont quite know what you lot have got to complain about because if you look at all the senior leagues the Prems, Div 1, Div 2 & Div 3 any one of the top four at least can still win the league just past the halfway mark of the season. Although Div 4 & 5 seem to be 1 horse races most of the leagues seem to be pretty competitive....all good I think

[adelaidepie]

Lefty, I agree with you in regards to how close the leagues are however the problem isn't with the teams in the league it is the way the FFSA have moved teams into the leagues.

Toros were only given one season in the prems which isn't a problem because they finished bottom except they were promised two! Add to this Gawler, Para Hills and now Campbelltown have all been 'allowed' to drop a division with no questions asked to help their club and not been replaced while as I said Toros were not given any choice.

Now don't think I am picking on the three teams mentioned as I don't have a problem with clubs looking out for what they want. I have an issue with one set of rules for one club and one set of rules for another. The FFSA has allowed this premier league competion to degenerate into what it is by not setting rules for all to know at the begining of a season and all being told you win you go up you lose you go down. no added little extras. Simple all be on the same page.

Tell me this Why did the FFSA offer Campbelltown 'extra' help and training to try and keep them in the premier league and not offer the same service (from what I know or believe) to Para Hills, Gawler and Toros? Fair!

Adelaidepie Julian

[ARodgers]

Julian just so you are clear, the FFSA offered us at Knights all the same assistance as they did Campbelltown, however our circumstances meant that this would not have been enough for us to maintain a team in prems. I can also promise you very, very clearly that our move was not 'no questions asked' in the slightest, we fought for months for our move to div 1.

[themagnet]

Div 4
C'town v Salisbury Inter tonight at Newton
C'town have had some inconsistent results in their first few games in div 4 so far, and with Inter looking to continue their unbeaten run it should be a very interesting game to see just what this C'town side can do.

[Tony_Mowbray]

Div 4
C'town v Salisbury Inter tonight at Newton
C'town have had some inconsistent results in their first few games in div 4 so far, and with Inter looking to continue their unbeaten run it should be a very interesting game to see just what this C'town side can do.

Dont expect too much.

My prediction is that C'town will do just enough to win tonight to convince the FFSA in staying in Div 4 and then continue on to win the league. (Not that the FFSA need convincing as they have already made the decision, apparently).

This means that unfortunately Salisbury Inter will be denied the rightfull title as 2010 league champions, as they look unbeatable at this point but still get promoted as runners up.

[on the side]

Div 4
C'town v Salisbury Inter tonight at Newton
C'town have had some inconsistent results in their first few games in div 4 so far, and with Inter looking to continue their unbeaten run it should be a very interesting game to see just what this C'town side can do.

Dont expect too much.

My prediction is that C'town will do just enough to win tonight to convince the FFSA in staying in Div 4 and then continue on to win the league. (Not that the FFSA need convincing as they have already made the decision, apparently).

This means that unfortunately Salisbury Inter will be denied the rightfull title as 2010 league champions, as they look unbeatable at this point but still get promoted as runners up.

0-0 last night, a very hard fought game for both sides, pitch had a mud bath taking up the middle left side!

watching the game I didn't feel that campbeltown were holding back....they had four on the bench...and still didn't manage to score...

[Tony_Mowbray]

Div 4
C'town v Salisbury Inter tonight at Newton
C'town have had some inconsistent results in their first few games in div 4 so far, and with Inter looking to continue their unbeaten run it should be a very interesting game to see just what this C'town side can do.

Dont expect too much.

My prediction is that C'town will do just enough to win tonight to convince the FFSA in staying in Div 4 and then continue on to win the league. (Not that the FFSA need convincing as they have already made the decision, apparently).

This means that unfortunately Salisbury Inter will be denied the rightfull title as 2010 league champions, as they look unbeatable at this point but still get promoted as runners up.

0-0 last night, a very hard fought game for both sides, pitch had a mud bath taking up the middle left side!

watching the game I didn't feel that campbeltown were holding back....they had four on the bench...and still didn't manage to score...

I cant say as I disagree (Totally)
Yes ... a hard fought game both sides and in the mud particularly on the near side of the pitch to the club. A bit like the game stuck in the mud. Somewhat funny at times too..

I dont think they were holding back either.

Their keeper didnt seem to have much contact in the game however, except on the occasional time when Inter got a quick break out from defence.

Most of the play I would have to say was in Town's attacking half and had many more scoring opportunities than Inter. At a guess I would say by 8-10 shots to Inters 2-3 but still couldnt finish and credit to Inters keeper as well.

This does tell me that these two teams are perhaps competitive but still highlights the gap to the rest of the field.

Lefty has already highlighted that Div4 seems to be a 1 horse race and is correct IMO.
Last nights result does not change my mind however that Campbelltown should not be part of Div 4.

They are certainly worthy of placement in a higher division as are Salis Inter.