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[johnydep]

An apology to the Croydon Kings Club and the U13 team is required.

Deleting a thread and hoping everything goes away shows lack of character and moral fiber. Hopefully South Adelaide do not allow you to coach children, at least not until you show some back bone and apologise to those that you defamed.

[kamikaze]

a very wise man said to me once "its very easy to throw mud".maybe these people should ring croydon
and apologise instead of hiding behind a screen. croydon are a honest club with hard working people behind the scenes and deserve an apology

[Nova]

should not throw mud and advertise your real name and phone number either

[Stitch This]

An apology to the Croydon Kings Club and the U13 team is required.

Deleting a thread and hoping everything goes away shows lack of character and moral fiber. Hopefully South Adelaide do not allow you to coach children, at least not until you show some back bone and apologise to those that you defamed.

Agree regarding the apology, but surely the thread was deleted by one of the moderators or admin?

[Stitch This]

should not throw mud and advertise your real name and phone number either

But it wasn't there real name or phone number.

[6]

Why should this one deserve an apology?
It's no different to the bashing that Metro-Stars,Campbelltown,Adelaide Blue Eagles,Para Hills,Vidmar,Western Strikers, Adelaide City,Adelaide Galaxy,Raiders,Adelaide Cobras,Verbeak,Modbury,Adelaide Comets,Pirates,Adelaide Hills,Enfield City,White City Woodville,Salisbury Utd,West Adelaide,Adelaide Olympic,Cumberland Utd,Noarlunga Utd,Northern Demons,
Playford City,Toros,Seaford,AFL,Rucci,FFSA,Seth Blatter, benny hill, South Australia,South Australian Super League,South Australian Premier League,South Australian State League,South Australian Amateur Soccer League,N.A.B.,Gawler,South Adelaide Cove,Mori, Aurelio Vidmar,kosmina,the GFC,Adelaide crows,crapatiser,Melbourne victory, Melbourne heart(even though they haven't done anything yet),AUFC,New Zealand, those diving Italians, Benny hill, West Adelaide, the special one, Ronaldo,Brazil,Kosmina,Anthony Mundene, Madonna, The pope, (all of them),the Irish, (yes all of them too), M&M's, milly vanilly, Vidmar,West Adelaide,Julia Gillard,KRudd,Peter Griffin,those damn vuvuzealas,day light savings, Bender, SASI, AGL, SAAL, ETSA,OPTUS,TELSTRA,BP,SSF,EFI,COEVR,MOBIL,CALTEX (damn share price),Santo,Ed,Sam,Fos,West Adelaide, Melbourne Victory,this pissant town,Top gun Jimmy,Vidmar,that little boy blue and his bloody horn,West Adelaide,Crazy George from the Comets last year, the last U13 state coach,youth development,Stewie Griffin, Millhouse,M Carter, oops I mean Michael C, AUFC youth academy, Diego,Cornflakes,The Makris group because they didn't put up enough sponsorship, referees (all of them, including the ones that are learning) Sir Alex, Good news week, Channel's ten,nine,seven,SBS,1,2,3etc etc, Batman for going gay,the new consortium(how dare they drag this out), Shittnee, Newzealand,Vidmar, West Adelaide, two minute noodles (the bane of mankind),the internet, Iraqi goals (for crap pirate feeds of international games), Pim,Osama & his half brother Bin,the person that gave Bin the camel and a laptop,vuvuzealas,Telly tubbies,ffsa,ffa,ffffaa,all the fahcsmfsehl at FIFA,M Carter & Darth Vadar (maybe one and the same), 433,Topgunjimmy, Perth Glory, Mike Rann, those damn trams,West Adelaide,Wcarter and 3po, (could be one and the same), Glee, Vidmar,Kosmina, the AFC, those clubs who didn't support Nat, Foxtel,........... to name a few!!!!!!
Did I mention Vidmar ?


Personally, I think that its pretty arrogant for a club to demand an apology on a public forum, patronised by the often ill informed, stupid and ignorant. To steal a quote from JD himself, change the channel, (in this case the PC).

JD it is not worth the effort, you should just keep doing the good job you do, and just let it slide and get over it...... Sure your club was called out, get the ffsa to do a check and post the findings here. (Careful though you may not be 100 % correct either, as I have also been told by one of my kids that a boy from CKFC admitted his age).

[PhilDunphy]

i think you missed one

[Mad_Max]

(Careful though you may not be 100 % correct either, as I have also been told by one of my kids that a boy from CKFC admitted his age).

Yeah, I heard the same thing from the bloke down the pub.

[6]

(Careful though you may not be 100 % correct either, as I have also been told by one of my kids that a boy from CKFC admitted his age).

Yeah, I heard the same thing from the bloke down the pub.

very knowledgeable fellow hey?

[johnydep]

Why should this one deserve an apology?
It's no different to the bashing that Metro-Stars,Campbelltown,Adelaide Blue Eagles,Para Hills,...........

JD it is not worth the effort, you should just keep doing the good job you do, and just let it slide and get over it...... Sure your club was called out, get the ffsa to do a check and post the findings here. (Careful though you may not be 100 % correct either, as

To make a point that defaming any club or person should not be tolerated, especially when hiding behind a user name. If any other club, coach or team is defamed the same thing will happen.

A lot of good people are working behind the scenes of all the clubs, working to build a strong club and sporting code. It is hurtful to many of those people to be accused of things that they have not done, especially by people that hide behind users names and can not be confronted with their accusations.

Such as your accusation; "I have also been told by one of my kids that a boy from CKFC admitted his age)." Please, tell me who this person is, so that we can investigate, and if there is a problem, fix it!

The club has triple checked the said team and have found all the players to be registered as U13 players, what more can we do, call the police to check birth certificates?

Why would we stack an U13D team when we have a successful U13A team (which has a card check at every game) and a struggling U14 team?

Until we are given proof we will protect the team, the coach and club.

[Nice One Cyril]

Why should this one deserve an apology?
It's no different to the bashing that Metro-Stars,Campbelltown,Adelaide Blue Eagles,Para Hills,...........

JD it is not worth the effort, you should just keep doing the good job you do, and just let it slide and get over it...... Sure your club was called out, get the ffsa to do a check and post the findings here. (Careful though you may not be 100 % correct either, as

To make a point that defaming any club or person should not be tolerated, especially when hiding behind a user name. If any other club, coach or team is defamed the same thing will happen.

A lot of good people are working behind the scenes of all the clubs, working to build a strong club and sporting code. It is hurtful to many of those people to be accused of things that they have not done, especially by people that hide behind users names and can not be confronted with their accusations.

Such as your accusation; "I have also been told by one of my kids that a boy from CKFC admitted his age)." Please, tell me who this person is, so that we can investigate, and if there is a problem, fix it!

The club has triple checked the said team and have found all the players to be registered as U13 players, what more can we do, call the police to check birth certificates?

Why would we stack an U13D team when we have a successful U13A team (which has a card check at every game) and a struggling U14 team?

Until we are given proof we will protect the team, the coach and club.

Well said JD. If someone has suspicions, report them to FFSA or better still to Croydon. Putting it on public forum is disgraceful.

I'm sure that all clubs make every effort to comply with the rules, but if a child (or more likely their parents) sets out to deceive (although God knows why they would want to), what the hell can the club do? The FFSA approve all the registrations don't they?

[New Boy On The Block]

JD, a card check was not done at last Sundays U13A game.

[rabbit]

15A's didn't do one against us either but hey, who cares........?

[johnydep]

JD, a card check was not done at last Sundays U13A game.

As I mentioned in the deleted thread; CKFC Football Committee gave a directive to all teams at the beginning of the season to have card checks before KO. We have not and can not police it (and should we?).

I was under the impression that the 13A team was one of the teams that requested a card check every week.

I just spoke to the Coach and he informed that he has requested card checks but not with all teams. With last weeks game against Adelaide City, the coach had full faith in AC to follow the rules and so no request for a card check was made. The Croydon team has all the same players in it that played the first game of the season against AC.

However, a card check was requested and done with the SAFC U13A team. And from now on there will be a card check for all the U13 games.

It's a sad day when we must have card checks at every game to stop rumour and innuendo in junior (development) sports!

[johnydep]

15A's didn't do one against us either but hey, who cares........?

Half the team is U14 players. Damn coaches, they're too trusting

[harrycripps]

the coach had full faith in AC to follow the rules and so no request for a card check was made

I take it you only do card checks against teams you don't trust then? Interesting!

[rabbit]

the coach had full faith in AC to follow the rules and so no request for a card check was made

I take it you only do card checks against teams you don't trust then? Interesting!

[johnydep]

the coach had full faith in AC to follow the rules and so no request for a card check was made

I take it you only do card checks against teams you don't trust then? Interesting!

I can't answer for other coaches.

I've been coaching for 8 years and as far as I can recall I have never asked for a card check. Others have asked me. One year I coached an U12 team (the year that
FFSA pushed for card checks) and had a couple of big tall boys in the team, I'd get asked just about every game for cards, once at half time (showed the cards and had a good laugh).

Personally I don't care if the opposition has overage players, all I care about is that I give players the best development possible.

At junior level coaches should concentrate on development and less about winning, but that's not going to happen due to the system we have. That's why I prefer coaching the younger age groups. Just my opinion.

Should I do card checks now?

[rabbit]

For as long as we are playing for points (rightly or wrongly) and you have suspicions about players or the integrity of other Coaches, I don't have a problem with card checks. A team I had a few years ago won everything that year (and although Jeda and his cronies may find it hard to believe, developed well as players and people too) and weren't given the opportunity to defend the Cup the following year when beaten by a "team" who had all their points taken off them a couple of weeks later for playing overaged players consistently. That did nothing for the development of my players that year in football terms but taught them a little about life and the culture of some Clubs who do try to win at all costs. I tell you something for nothing right now, I will continue to do card checks against that Club because of the history of cheating time and time again.
I'm being careful what I say but what about players who can't produce a birth certificate....should they be allowed to play at a Club or not, especially when there are grave doubts about his actual age? One immediately springs to mind but I believe he is playing in a more appropriate age group now at a different Club

[Barney Rubble]

For as long as we are playing for points (rightly or wrongly) and you have suspicions about players or the integrity of other Coaches, I don't have a problem with card checks. A team I had a few years ago won everything that year (and although Jeda and his cronies may find it hard to believe, developed well as players and people too) and weren't given the opportunity to defend the Cup the following year when beaten by a "team" who had all their points taken off them a couple of weeks later for playing overaged players consistently. That did nothing for the development of my players that year in football terms but taught them a little about life and the culture of some Clubs who do try to win at all costs. I tell you something for nothing right now, I will continue to do card checks against that Club because of the history of cheating time and time again.
I'm being careful what I say but what about players who can't produce a birth certificate....should they be allowed to play at a Club or not, especially when there are grave doubts about his actual age? One immediately springs to mind but I believe he is playing in a more appropriate age group now at a different Club

am not

[best]

With last weeks game against Adelaide City, the coach had full faith in AC to follow the rules and so no request for a card check was made. The Croydon team has all the same players in it that played the first game of the season against AC.

OR WERE THEIR OTHER REASONS FOR NO CARD CHECK ?
PLAYING FOR TOP SPOT.
WELL DONE NOW TOP OF THE TABLE.
IS AC CONVINCED THAT THEY WERE THE SAME PLAYERS.

[johnydep]

With last weeks game against Adelaide City, the coach had full faith in AC to follow the rules and so no request for a card check was made. The Croydon team has all the same players in it that played the first game of the season against AC.

OR WERE THEIR OTHER REASONS FOR NO CARD CHECK ?
PLAYING FOR TOP SPOT.
WELL DONE NOW TOP OF THE TABLE.
IS AC CONVINCED THAT THEY WERE THE SAME PLAYERS.

This is the sort of poor sportsmanship that puts our game into disrepute!

If you beleive that a team was/is cheating use your proper name, come out and say so but do not hide behind a wall throw stones and be expected to be taken seriously!

All the players in the CKFC U13A team are the same players that started the season together. Not one new addition, not one borrowed player. This I know for a fact.

CKFC U13A was top of the table before the game, they also beat AC in their first encounter.

Quite a few of the boys from AC & CK know each other from various academies - State, AU Elite. The Coach of AC knows his job well, go ask him.

[johnydep]

For as long as we are playing for points (rightly or wrongly) and you have suspicions about players or the integrity of other Coaches, I don't have a problem with card checks. A team I had a few years ago won everything that year (and although Jeda and his cronies may find it hard to believe, developed well as players and people too) and weren't given the opportunity to defend the Cup the following year when beaten by a "team" who had all their points taken off them a couple of weeks later for playing overaged players consistently. That did nothing for the development of my players that year in football terms but taught them a little about life and the culture of some Clubs who do try to win at all costs. I tell you something for nothing right now, I will continue to do card checks against that Club because of the history of cheating time and time again.
I'm being careful what I say but what about players who can't produce a birth certificate....should they be allowed to play at a Club or not, especially when there are grave doubts about his actual age? One immediately springs to mind but I believe he is playing in a more appropriate age group now at a different Club

There is a bone density check that is done to determine the age of children. I have been told that it is accurate.

Sometimes kids grow at different stages. As mentioned, I had an U12 team with two players that looked as if they were U14 or U15 players. Lucky for them they were born here, it was easy for us to defend them.

[best]

[quoteIf you beleive that a team was/is cheating ][/quote]

I ASKED QUESTIONS AND MADE A STATEMENT AND CONGRATULATED THE TEAM
THEIR WAS NOTHING ABOUT CHEATING

[tryhard]

I was at the game - with AC . It was a good game and the croydon boys played well and deserved the win. Carry on about overaged players is crap. I dont believe anyone is that desperate to win a game in junior games - and if they are they should be ashamed.

[Southampton #7]

I was at the game - with AC . It was a good game and the croydon boys played well and deserved the win. Carry on about overaged players is crap. I dont believe anyone is that desperate to win a game in junior games - and if they are they should be ashamed.

yeah

[rabbit]

I was at the game - with AC . It was a good game and the croydon boys played well and deserved the win. Carry on about overaged players is crap. I dont believe anyone is that desperate to win a game in junior games - and if they are they should be ashamed.

yeah

It happens

[Big Mac]

I was at the game - with AC . It was a good game and the croydon boys played well and deserved the win. Carry on about overaged players is crap. I dont believe anyone is that desperate to win a game in junior games - and if they are they should be ashamed.

yeah

It happens

I'll see you a and raise you a

[kamikaze]

For as long as we are playing for points (rightly or wrongly) and you have suspicions about players or the integrity of other Coaches, I don't have a problem with card checks. A team I had a few years ago won everything that year (and although Jeda and his cronies may find it hard to believe, developed well as players and people too) and weren't given the opportunity to defend the Cup the following year when beaten by a "team" who had all their points taken off them a couple of weeks later for playing overaged players consistently. That did nothing for the development of my players that year in football terms but taught them a little about life and the culture of some Clubs who do try to win at all costs. I tell you something for nothing right now, I will continue to do card checks against that Club because of the history of cheating time and time again.
I'm being careful what I say but what about players who can't produce a birth certificate....should they be allowed to play at a Club or not, especially when there are grave doubts about his actual age? One immediately springs to mind but I believe he is playing in a more appropriate age group now at a different Club

There is a bone density check that is done to determine the age of children. I have been told that it is accurate.

Sometimes kids grow at different stages. As mentioned, I had an U12 team with two players that looked as if they were U14 or U15 players. Lucky for them they were born here, it was easy for us to defend them.

can i still play for the under 10 this weekend jd .i will make sure i shave this time......

[devils advocate]

For as long as we are playing for points (rightly or wrongly) and you have suspicions about players or the integrity of other Coaches, I don't have a problem with card checks. A team I had a few years ago won everything that year (and although Jeda and his cronies may find it hard to believe, developed well as players and people too) and weren't given the opportunity to defend the Cup the following year when beaten by a "team" who had all their points taken off them a couple of weeks later for playing overaged players consistently. That did nothing for the development of my players that year in football terms but taught them a little about life and the culture of some Clubs who do try to win at all costs. I tell you something for nothing right now, I will continue to do card checks against that Club because of the history of cheating time and time again.
I'm being careful what I say but what about players who can't produce a birth certificate....should they be allowed to play at a Club or not, especially when there are grave doubts about his actual age? One immediately springs to mind but I believe he is playing in a more appropriate age group now at a different Club

There is a bone density check that is done to determine the age of children. I have been told that it is accurate.

Sometimes kids grow at different stages. As mentioned, I had an U12 team with two players that looked as if they were U14 or U15 players. Lucky for them they were born here, it was easy for us to defend them.

can i still play for the under 10 this weekend jd .i will make sure i shave this time......

ahhh U10 just like grade 5 was the best 3 years of my life!