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after kaka last night, have the referees had their worst world cup ever?

i think the top 10 or so refs in the world should go, not some muppet from guatemala
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fair call, the whole tournament has been pretty average. poor crowds, poor refs and the matches have been of poor quality
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DOC wrote:after kaka last night
Brazillians have been pretty good at doing it for years... it's about time they were on the receiving end of someone conning a ref.
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sparts wrote:fair call, the whole tournament has been pretty average. poor crowds, poor refs and the matches have been of poor quality
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sparts wrote:fair call, the whole tournament has been pretty average. poor crowds, poor refs and the matches have been of poor quality
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The inconsistent application of the Laws has been appalling.
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Rob Lozza wrote:The inconsistent application of the Laws has been appalling.
:( always the same problem - consistency :? don't fifa get all the officials in for meetings & a talk fest :?:
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how many mistakes have the refs made though?

Bottom line is, if they players didn't cheat and dive then it would be irrelevant.
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Porcupine wrote:
DOC wrote:after kaka last night
Brazillians have been pretty good at doing it for years... it's about time they were on the receiving end of someone conning a ref.

very similar to the rivaldo incident as well.
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Hawkesy wrote:
Porcupine wrote:Brazillians have been pretty good at doing it for years... it's about time they were on the receiving end of someone conning a ref.
very similar to the rivaldo incident as well.
Roberto Cuntos's dive over Petter Møller (Denmark) comes to mid as well.
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Hawkesy wrote:how many mistakes have the refs made though?

Bottom line is, if they players didn't cheat and dive then it would be irrelevant.

:P i may need to get my eyes checked but where is the word mistake mentioned :?: :oops: lack of consistency in decision making towards hand balls & tackles :shock:
:twisted: only mistake i've seen is letting england into the tournament :oops: :P :lol:
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Jeda wrote:
Hawkesy wrote:how many mistakes have the refs made though?

Bottom line is, if they players didn't cheat and dive then it would be irrelevant.

:P i may need to get my eyes checked but where is the word mistake mentioned :?: :oops: lack of consistency in decision making towards hand balls & tackles :shock:
:twisted: only mistake i've seen is letting england into the tournament :oops: :P :lol:
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Jeda wrote:
Hawkesy wrote:how many mistakes have the refs made though?

Bottom line is, if they players didn't cheat and dive then it would be irrelevant.

:P i may need to get my eyes checked but where is the word mistake mentioned :?: :oops: lack of consistency in decision making towards hand balls & tackles :shock:
:twisted: only mistake i've seen is letting england into the tournament :oops: :P :lol:
hand balls have been consistent, but agreed, tackles have not been
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To be fair, I think players need to take some responsibility here...

Diving is a blight on the game and FIFA need to stamp it out with Post match penalties!!
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was the ref in the Chile game last night the same idiot from the Germany Serbia game?
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It will be interesting to see if some of the refs involved in controversies get a gig in later rounds...

I wonder if Lord Uberfuhrer Sepp Blatter stuck to his threat to send refs on the 1st plane outta there if they didn't properly apply law 12 in red carding hackers for tackles-from-behind?

And what happened to the new reporting powers of the 4th officials? They're still just holding up substitutions numbers and time-added-on figures...
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refs do get a chat, mark shield mentioned his briefing before korea when discussing harry kewells handball

ned zelic made a good point last night, players need to be booked for diving more, the refs are too easily conned and so the players will do it, behrami should have never been sent off, like kaka, and the chile player should have never seen a card for the incident with von bergen

basically a ref needs to show in the first 10 minutes no simultion will be tolerated and he will have control of the players, the ref in chile, swiss game lost them early, was card happy and there were poor disicions and dives all over the place, nd then he books someone for diving in the 90th minute :lol:
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DOC wrote:players need to be booked for diving more
Better still, be sent home.
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Porcupine wrote:
DOC wrote:players need to be booked for diving more
Better still, be sent home.
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rooboy1986 wrote:Diving is a blight on the game and FIFA need to stamp it out with Post match penalties!!
and sending guilty players home.
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Con wrote:And what happened to the new reporting powers of the 4th officials? They're still just holding up substitutions numbers and time-added-on figures...

Could be happening but we just don't know about it. They're all mic'ed up.
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DOC wrote:refs do get a chat, mark shield mentioned his briefing before korea when discussing harry kewells handball

ned zelic made a good point last night, players need to be booked for diving more, the refs are too easily conned and so the players will do it, behrami should have never been sent off, like kaka, and the chile player should have never seen a card for the incident with von bergen

basically a ref needs to show in the first 10 minutes no simultion will be tolerated and he will have control of the players, the ref in chile, swiss game lost them early, was card happy and there were poor disicions and dives all over the place, nd then he books someone for diving in the 90th minute :lol:

There speaks a man who's never refereed a game in his life. How do they show that no simulation will be tolerated if they're too easily conned? They won't know if it's simulation or not, and you'd be the first to moan if Kewell got fouled and then booked for diving.

In real time, it's nearly always too fast to be sure and, until FIFA introduce video evidence either during or after the game, it will be almost impossible to stop.
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After game bookings for divers. No other way, or like Nice One Cyril mentioned, introducing video replays during the game, which, as FIFA plainly stated few times lately, won't happen.
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coachingsoccer wrote:After game bookings for divers. No other way, or like Nice One Cyril mentioned, introducing video replays during the game, which, as FIFA plainly stated few times lately, won't happen.
A booking will be no use. If they're found guilty they should get at least a 2 game ban for serious foul play. It undermines the integrity of the game imo. Then, and only then, the managers will be telling them to stay on their feet.
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Achtung: Warden of HM Prison OZ(except SA), aka Hawkesy. I have yet to see refs consult the 4th official about anything. If Lucas Neill met his captain's responsibilities he should have verbally dragged the central ref over to get the 4th official's version of what he saw when Bresciano got kicked up the arse by Ghana's Addy. I have seen refs change their decision after consulting assistants....

Achtung: Nice One Cyril et Coachingsoccer.com.au. I'm being pedantic but it's not FIFA with the ultimate decision to change things re divers, video technology, etc. It's I.F.A.B., the International FA Board. Consists of 8 members (Wales, N.Ireland, England &Scotland, and 4 FIFA delegates representing the other 204 nations). 6 out of 8 votes (ie 3/4 majority) are needed to change a law....
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Diving, shirt pulling and feigning injury ruining world cup.
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Con wrote:Achtung: Warden of HM Prison OZ(except SA), aka Hawkesy. I have yet to see refs consult the 4th official about anything. If Lucas Neill met his captain's responsibilities he should have verbally dragged the central ref over to get the 4th official's version of what he saw when Bresciano got kicked up the muscat by Ghana's Addy. I have seen refs change their decision after consulting assistants....

Achtung: Nice One Cyril et Coachingsoccer.com.au. I'm being pedantic but it's not FIFA with the ultimate decision to change things re divers, video technology, etc. It's I.F.A.B., the International FA Board. Consists of 8 members (Wales, N.Ireland, England &Scotland, and 4 FIFA delegates representing the other 204 nations). 6 out of 8 votes (ie 3/4 majority) are needed to change a law....

How would you see it when they can talk to each other from the other side of the pitch?

Could you please show me the law that gives Neill the right as skipper to "verbally drag anyone over"?
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